^^ so if it is larger than any of ours, how far do they have to drive to get an uncrowded wave?
Or go for a bushwalk
or mountainbike
or find a wide open space to sit and do fk all and hear the sounds of nothing?
^^^ Not sure about the uncrowded wave. That predicates a near coastal city.
All the rest the dwellers can do within the city.
Yes it is a radical departure from what we perceive as city living.
Edit:- Not sure but this might be the place I am referring to. Curitiba.
If you don't like it, you don't like it. So what.
Gee, all these cities being voted most liveable and no mention of Yungaburra! (Yunga-what? most of you will ask)
I lived there for a while and found...
- zero property crime (nobody I knew had their car/house broken into, most did not lock them)
- neighbors who had no fences and were happy for the kids from each house to treat the combined yards as a semi-public park
- neighbors who would leave a basket of fruit on the door step just cos they noticed I had moved in
- neighbors who would help each other and make it a point to invite new comers to street parties, games nights etc
- no big supermarkets but plenty of roadside stalls for local produce
- THE best local markets
- very peaceful lakeside living (I used to walk down to my canoe and paddle amongst the platypus and wildlife before work in the morning)
So, when I hear people talk about the most liveable cities, I find it hard to be convinced that they are on the right track.
Melbourne, Sydney etc may have some really cool things to do/see, but living there?
Not for this little black duck! 
Kowloon
sometimes-interesting.com/2011/06/28/kowloon-walled-city/
In 1987, its population numbered 33,000 within its 6.5-acre borders. The population density at its peak was 3.25 million people per square mile. To put that in perspective, Hong Kong as a whole (itself one of the most densely populated regions on Earth) has a population density of "only" 17,000 people per square mile.
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Different city. This one really blew my mind. WELL worth a watch (10 mins not 3 fn hours). I think it was on ABC or SBS a couple of months ago.
I'm a refugee from Sydney
My mate still there paid 1.1 million to live in a 2 bedroom terrace with Jets passing over every 4 mins.
You're f*&(*^ brain dead if you don't realise that Sydney is the worlds septic tank.
I now live in bogan central and it takes me 1 hr to get from my desk to being on the water at Woodies.
I'll take bogan Perth any day
I'd rather live in Mandurah than move back to Sydney (No offence Elmo et al)
If you wind or kite surf in Australia you should know Elliot Heads.
So for you this might be Australia's Most Liveable City.
www.news-mail.com.au/news/billion-dollar-proposal/1341540/
I don't see most cities as 'liveable', more of a convenience...give me a small country town or city anyday. As for 1hr drive to 'blah', only 35mins drive to 'blah'...I can walk 5mins in one direction & be waist deep at the beach, another direction & I'm at the hospital, 10mins walk to work & to a couple of 'very' good restaurants, supermarkets & pubs.
Doors don't need locking (although I do anyways), surrounded by beaches within 15mins drive that face about 270degs, so a sail/surf/fish is always an option. Supplied artesian bore water - tastes crap, but no water restrictions, also high annual rainfall, so not an issue...weather is ordinary for most of it, but that makes work bearable and the good days are all the better.
Industry (port/smelter & associated trades) are strong so employment is still good. Pleasant people, friends & very laid-back lifestyle.
Sad thing is, school holidays get busy here (population doubles to 20k), so we go camping 45mins from here to a 'quieter' town (pop apx 500) on the river & beach estuary - fishing, mtb riding, canoeing/suping & of course bbqing & drinking.
You guys stay in the city, I'll stay here thanks.
The words livable and city really don't belong in the same sentence. Trafic jams are a complete waste of life. Why would anyone want to spend the majority of their recreation time drumming their fingers on a dashboard? It's nuts, but clearly some people must enjoy it.
I prefer to spend my time in the water, not staring at trafic lights so I'll stay where I am. :)
Dont live in Canberra, its a hive of lazy self involved public servants, blabbing about community this, community that, its such a sickening wank. Canberra is really THE place to avoid and we're out of here as soon as we can. And yep, I was born here. Oh yeah, nearest beach is 1.5 hrs.
Perth is fab, the worlds most remote city, but fab in my opinion. Also, Kiama, but its not really a city. Maybe "the gong", its not bad.
Seriously, dont even visit canberra, you will be disappointed.
the thing about livin in the gong is the stink of the air
the worst thing about livin in the gong is the point where you don't notice it anymore
. But there is a noticable difference. A fellow I work with visits his girlfriend in Canberra on weekends. He's always blown away on Mondays when he reports back. Last time he stayed till Tuesday. " Runners everywhere? (lunch time joggers I presume) and not just running, they're really moving along. If we see someone running that fast down here we call the police"
