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Camry drivers

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Created by nebbian > 9 months ago, 24 Jul 2008
nebbian
WA, 6277 posts
24 Jul 2008 9:16PM
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Snapped this photo thisafternoon on the way home from work...



My opinion of camry drivers wasn't all that high before either.

cwamit
WA, 1194 posts
24 Jul 2008 9:23PM
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judging by the blur, you should stop when using your mobile phone.

beastsurf
WA, 902 posts
24 Jul 2008 9:35PM
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Nobody in the photo seems to bothered. I see the sign on the wall is aust med society. maybee the driver needs their eyes checked.

decrepit
WA, 12133 posts
24 Jul 2008 9:43PM
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Do you think he/she backed up there, or drove round from the back of the building?

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
24 Jul 2008 9:45PM
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my landcruiser doesnt seem like such a silly idea in city traffic afterall. She( natural assumption) should have put her foot down at the right moment and would have glided over. it looks like a handy shortcut in the city

decrepit
WA, 12133 posts
24 Jul 2008 9:49PM
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I have a feeling the back wheels are off the ground, must have come forwards, stopped when it made a funny scrapping sound.

nebbian
WA, 6277 posts
24 Jul 2008 10:07PM
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Yep back wheels were off the ground, it wasn't going anywhere... No-one inside, I had to wait for a gap in the traffic to snap the photo (taken from median strip). It looked like it had come around from the back of the building.

Got to wonder about the sanity of some people really!

poor relative
WA, 9089 posts
24 Jul 2008 10:30PM
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If they had a 4WD V8 they would have made it.
Who says you don't need 4WD in the city?

kitecrazzzy
WA, 2184 posts
24 Jul 2008 10:52PM
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there is a way better photo of something like that but it was the "community safety" car. ie: a government semi police person did the same ****

elizabethb
QLD, 2081 posts
25 Jul 2008 1:16AM
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If it was my '87 Skyline it would've cleared that plus 15m. lol [}:)]

manicskier
VIC, 772 posts
25 Jul 2008 1:28AM
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decrepit said...

I have a feeling the back wheels are off the ground, must have come forwards, stopped when it made a funny scrapping sound.


little bit if speed would have caried past the scraping sound, the moral, plan stupid manouvers

OceanBlue64
VIC, 980 posts
25 Jul 2008 8:23AM
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Looks like it was the woman in blue who was the driver... need I say more...

nobody
NSW, 437 posts
25 Jul 2008 9:35AM
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nebbian said...

Snapped this photo thisafternoon on the way home from work...

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My opinion of camry drivers wasn't all that high before either.

If we want to get into bias we could say (as some newpaper reports have said over the years) that WA drivers are the worst in AUS. So what do you expect?

Before you ask, yes I spend 5 1/2 years in Perth so I do have experience with WA drivers.

[Yes, I've just come home from night shift. ]

nobody
NSW, 437 posts
25 Jul 2008 9:43AM
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landyacht said...

my landcruiser doesnt seem like such a silly idea in city traffic afterall. She( natural assumption) should have put her foot down at the right moment and would have glided over. it looks like a handy shortcut in the city


Yes, it doesn't seem like it, but a 4WD that guzzles fuel, is 3 times more likely to kill someone else and 3.5 times more likely to roll-over doesn't necessarily make an ideal commuter car either.

poor relative said...

If they had a 4WD V8 they would have made it.
Who says you don't need 4WD in the city?


I find it interesting that in the cities you find many 4WDs, but in the country 2WD utes are popular. Maybe it is because 2WD utes will likely get better fuel economy, handle better, go harder, be cheaper to maintain and roll-over less on those dangerous country roads.


[No, I don't currently own a 2WD ute]
[Yes, I have owned 4WDs in the past]

cwamit
WA, 1194 posts
25 Jul 2008 8:59AM
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no its because 2wd utes the likes of xr8's are far better for circle work.

Rex
WA, 949 posts
25 Jul 2008 12:00PM
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nobody said...

landyacht said...

my landcruiser doesnt seem like such a silly idea in city traffic afterall. She( natural assumption) should have put her foot down at the right moment and would have glided over. it looks like a handy shortcut in the city


Yes, it doesn't seem like it, but a 4WD that guzzles fuel, is 3 times more likely to kill someone else and 3.5 times more likely to roll-over doesn't necessarily make an ideal commuter car either.

poor relative said...

If they had a 4WD V8 they would have made it.
Who says you don't need 4WD in the city?


I find it interesting that in the cities you find many 4WDs, but in the country 2WD utes are popular. Maybe it is because 2WD utes will likely get better fuel economy, handle better, go harder, be cheaper to maintain and roll-over less on those dangerous country roads.


[No, I don't currently own a 2WD ute]
[Yes, I have owned 4WDs in the past]



3 times more likely to kill someone and 3.5 times more likely to roll over than what?

SS commodore utes seem to be the ute of choice up here for young guys , especially with a big metalmalisha sticker across the back window or similar


GreenPat
QLD, 4083 posts
25 Jul 2008 2:22PM
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2WD utes are more comfortable for long haul driving too.

I saw a photo like that of a taxi in a news article warning people not to have too much faith in GPS navigation. The police were recommending people still use maps whenever possible.

nobody
NSW, 437 posts
25 Jul 2008 5:43PM
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Rex said...

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3 times more likely to kill someone and 3.5 times more likely to roll over than what?


SS commodore utes seem to be the ute of choice up here for young guys , especially with a big metalmalisha sticker across the back window or similar


www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=9878


www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=5796&IsPgd=0

According to an analysis of 1 million vehicle smashes by the Monash University Accident Research Centre, a driver of a small car hit by a four-wheel-drive is 412 times more likely to be killed or seriously injured than the off-roader's driver.



And due to their higher centre of gravity, four-wheel-drives are almost three times more likely to roll than a large passenger sedan in single-car crashes.


"It (a four-wheel-drive) is about 40 percent more likely to kill you or seriously injure you in a single-vehicle crash," said centre senior research fellow Stuart Newstead. "Four-wheel-drives are much more likely to roll over, but even when they don't, they're much more likely to injure you than a regular car."


www.abc.net.au/rn/ockhamsrazor/stories/2006/1604721.htm#

The Australian Transport Safety Bureau Monograph No. 11, of September 2003, included the following key findings.

1. Four-wheel-drives involved in fatal accidents increased by 85% between 1990 and 1998, while the overall number of fatal road accidents decreased by a quarter over the same period. This is likely to be because of the increased distances driven by 4-wheel-drives on Australian roads, as an overall percentage.

2. In accidents where 4-wheel-drives contributed to the cause of the crash, fatigue, alcohol or other drugs were a major factor. Four-wheel-drivers were more likely to be affected by alcohol than drivers of any other class of vehicle.

3. Four-wheel-drives were far more likely to roll over in a crash than a standard passenger car (35% compared with 13%).

4. Occupants of passenger cars accounted for 64% of the fatalities in accidents involving 4-wheel-drives. The fatality rate for 4-wheel-drives was only 18%.

kitecrazzzy
WA, 2184 posts
25 Jul 2008 4:01PM
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From nobody's link

He also took aim at young drivers in regional areas who drove souped-up utes often adorned with bullbars, aerials and stickers.

"In the bush every young driver wants to drive a Holden ute with a bullbar," he said.

"It's a testosterone thing, it's all about `mine is bigger than yours'."



If you live in the bush you can't fit much into a camry now can you? The only option to you is a ute and if you don't have a roo bar your gonna confuse the **** out of everyone cus they will think your suicidal just waiting for a nice big roo to end it for you.

evlPanda
NSW, 9202 posts
25 Jul 2008 6:47PM
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Bloody Indian doctors.

Rex
WA, 949 posts
25 Jul 2008 5:01PM
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nobody said...

Rex said...

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3 times more likely to kill someone and 3.5 times more likely to roll over than what?


SS commodore utes seem to be the ute of choice up here for young guys , especially with a big metalmalisha sticker across the back window or similar


www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=9878


www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=5796&IsPgd=0

According to an analysis of 1 million vehicle smashes by the Monash University Accident Research Centre, a driver of a small car hit by a four-wheel-drive is 412 times more likely to be killed or seriously injured than the off-roader's driver.



And due to their higher centre of gravity, four-wheel-drives are almost three times more likely to roll than a large passenger sedan in single-car crashes.


"It (a four-wheel-drive) is about 40 percent more likely to kill you or seriously injure you in a single-vehicle crash," said centre senior research fellow Stuart Newstead. "Four-wheel-drives are much more likely to roll over, but even when they don't, they're much more likely to injure you than a regular car."


www.abc.net.au/rn/ockhamsrazor/stories/2006/1604721.htm#

The Australian Transport Safety Bureau Monograph No. 11, of September 2003, included the following key findings.

1. Four-wheel-drives involved in fatal accidents increased by 85% between 1990 and 1998, while the overall number of fatal road accidents decreased by a quarter over the same period. This is likely to be because of the increased distances driven by 4-wheel-drives on Australian roads, as an overall percentage.

2. In accidents where 4-wheel-drives contributed to the cause of the crash, fatigue, alcohol or other drugs were a major factor. Four-wheel-drivers were more likely to be affected by alcohol than drivers of any other class of vehicle.

3. Four-wheel-drives were far more likely to roll over in a crash than a standard passenger car (35% compared with 13%).

4. Occupants of passenger cars accounted for 64% of the fatalities in accidents involving 4-wheel-drives. The fatality rate for 4-wheel-drives was only 18%.



Yes interesting but very non specific, there is a lot of variety of 4wd out there, they should name brands and models of those damn druggy alco 4wders and thier killing machines


poor relative
WA, 9089 posts
25 Jul 2008 5:04PM
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What about a 4WD ute.
Who drives them?

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
25 Jul 2008 9:24PM
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The great thing about 4WD utes is that you can bolt more crap on , EVEN weld it on then add bigger Bogun stickers, tow and launch a bigger skiboat/stinkboat..
The anti4WD drive lobby do have a point tho ,You really dont need the V8, a stonking great EFI 6 is fine.
I have found that with all the concrete and light poles they are adding to our roads,the high ground clearance,big wheels are a great thing.
Big body panels just mean a better stereo sound without having to upgrade.
. I'm always sceptical of anti 4wd articles after reading a RAC WA article about 4WDs tendency to roll. the photo showed my model,colour,even the same wheels, tojo laying on its side.
The next edition had an article about towing caravans and the they used the same photo,uncropped to show that the driver had tried to tow a triple axle caravan with the tojo but no sway bars,and then drove too fast.
And they didnt reply to my letter

hills
SA, 1622 posts
25 Jul 2008 11:36PM
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98.756% of all statistics are crap!

mr windsurf
VIC, 81 posts
26 Jul 2008 12:39AM
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i know that guy he told me he was thinking about windsurfing when it happend he is from melbourne he was looking at the trees for wind same thing happend to me and i hit a tree once cool as cause me car was worth 100 bucks true story mine is anyway

Pugwash
WA, 7671 posts
25 Jul 2008 10:57PM
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poor relative said...

What about a 4WD ute.
Who drives them?


Horses for courses... Really good when you need 'em - i.e. driving 12 hours across a desert with no roads... A little excessive for city driving... Safe enough for the drivers and passengers, but not so good for pedestrians and other road users... Then again, Nissan Navara has a 1 star safety rating, with non-collapsing peddles and major risk to drivers legs during low speed (60km/h) head-ons...



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