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El Toro!!! Honouring the Bull.

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Created by cisco > 9 months ago, 10 Jul 2011
cisco
QLD, 12337 posts
10 Jul 2011 3:56PM
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Here are two Spanish greats. The bull and the fighter.



A balanced view as presented by National Georgaphic.

cisco
QLD, 12337 posts
10 Jul 2011 5:02PM
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Watch the dancing horses in this one.



These guys are amazing.



Here is one of the greatest ever. "El Cordobes" Ole'

cisco
QLD, 12337 posts
10 Jul 2011 5:44PM
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The previous are how "El Toro" dies.

This is how "El Toro" lives.





Although there are many who condemn bull fighting as cruel and barbaric, the way the Spanish regard and treat their bulls is a stark contrast to what has been happening in our live cattle export trade.

log man
VIC, 8289 posts
10 Jul 2011 7:43PM
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"Although there are many who condemn bull fighting as cruel and barbaric, the way the Spanish regard and treat their bulls is a stark contrast to what has been happening in our live cattle export trade." [/left]......No fair enough that seems to be a perfectly reasonable idea

GalahOnTheBay
NSW, 4188 posts
10 Jul 2011 10:19PM
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^^^ I'm not convinced.

In both scenarios we see animals cruelly slaughtered - how is one any better than the other?

cisco
QLD, 12337 posts
10 Jul 2011 11:02PM
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GalahOnTheBay said...

^^^ I'm not convinced.

In both scenarios we see animals cruelly slaughtered - how is one any better than the other?


In your opinion the bull fighter cruelly slaughters the animal.

In both scenarios the animal is going to be killed. Quite often if the bull has fought very bravely it is not killed and returned to pasture.

The objective of the bull fighter is to bring out the best in himself and the bull and then to give the bull a swift death.

Quite often this happens.



Ados
WA, 421 posts
10 Jul 2011 9:17PM
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sometimes in life you get the horns.

GalahOnTheBay
NSW, 4188 posts
10 Jul 2011 11:51PM
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cisco said...

[In your opinion the bull fighter cruelly slaughters the animal.


Wow

wdk
WA, 38 posts
10 Jul 2011 9:57PM
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Maybe they should stun the bulls before a bull fight

subasurf
WA, 2154 posts
10 Jul 2011 11:38PM
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I for one LOVE bullfighting.

felixdcat
WA, 3519 posts
11 Jul 2011 10:02AM
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Best bull fighting is in Portugal an south of France as they do not kill or harm the bull, they challenge it and then when it run at them they:
1. In Portugal wait for it and try to stop it only with their bodies and hands.
2. In France they run in front of it and attempt to catch the "cocarde" attached between the horns.
That is real courage and skills.
No blood bath and animal cruelty. After a fight the meat is saturated with adrenalin and improper for consumption.

oz surf
WA, 407 posts
11 Jul 2011 10:23AM
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The killing of any animal or living thing for pleasure, in my book,is sick

felixdcat
WA, 3519 posts
11 Jul 2011 10:36AM
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^^^^ +1^^^^

boofy
NSW, 2110 posts
11 Jul 2011 3:08PM
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Its funny how its one on one until the bullfighter F's up then its 20 on one. I hope he had a slow torturous death like the bulls he killed in the past big hero

GalahOnTheBay
NSW, 4188 posts
11 Jul 2011 3:46PM
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What part of this picture does not look cruel to you?



Being a matador is like kitesurfing in NSW westerlies. No matter how hard you try and stack the deck in your favour, every once and a while you are going to come off second best:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1280469/Spanish-bullfighter-gored-Matador-Julio-Aparicio-narrowly-escapes-death.html

Hiko
1229 posts
11 Jul 2011 1:48PM
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[cisco said...

[In your opinion the bull fighter cruelly slaughters the animal.]

The bull is brought into an arena completely alien to its experience where there are thousands of screaming spectators trumpets etc then it is stuck with barbed spears in its shoulder muscles so that it has minimal chance of defending itself and every time it moves the spears agitate its nerves then it is disorientated by horses capes etc
No nothing cruel about this just good clean heroic fun not

felixdcat
WA, 3519 posts
11 Jul 2011 1:56PM
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GalahOnTheBay said...

What part of this picture does not look cruel to you?



Being a matador is like kitesurfing in NSW westerlies. No matter how hard you try and stack the deck in your favour, every once and a while you are going to come off second best:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1280469/Spanish-bullfighter-gored-Matador-Julio-Aparicio-narrowly-escapes-death.html

I bet they had to kill the bull and no one honoured it! The stupid matador lost and should have had is balls and hears cut and given to the bull as the tradition want them given to the matador when the bull loses![}:)]
I love Spanish culture, flamenco, dancing horses, food.... but there is no place for tauromachy and Spanish inquisition (luckily terminated few years ago)



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