Sorry for Venting..
But Now at our 32nd uninvited boat for the year...
I am pretty unimpressed...
I understand that times are tougher and people will risk their lives in
a crappy boat with crappy conditions...
But i want to see it STOPPED....Not slowed down...not more boats...
Just Stopped.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And whats this business of heading to Christmas Island..
Heading there....So has every one heard our country is run by idiots!!
What? are they just going straight to Christmas Island...instead of the extra sea
miles and cost getting to the Australia Coast....
I know the good sea weather for these trips are nearly over for the year...but we shall see...
The last boat had 3 Crew...what 3 paid crew....the last one 4 crew...
What are we just a pattsie country with no backbone...
ggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Again Sorry for the vent.
Does anyone know who made this statement
Immigration and multiculturalism are issues that this government is trying to address, but for far too long ordinary Australians have been kept out of any debate by the major parties. I and most Australians want our immigration policy radically reviewed and that of multiculturalism abolished. I believe we are in danger of being swamped by Asians. Between 1984 and 1995, 40 per cent of all migrants coming into this country were of Asian origin. They have their own culture and religion, form ghettos and do not assimilate. Of course, I will be called racist but, if I can invite whom I want into my home, then I should have the right to have a say in who comes into my country.
My issue as a layperson is I don't have much of a clue about this
situation apart from commonsense, but they say this affects the immigrants and refugees
that have applied to this country and gone through all the right channels.
They can offer our country skills and alike and have sat in their homes waiting
for sometimes years (putting their lives on hold) for the phone call or in some cases I guess a Letter to say they have been accepted and can start their new life.
I was lucky I was born here...my Grandparents set me up for a better life in a GREAT country...they paid their way...and did all the right things ....
But still that is not my issue...
WHY!!!!!!...with this government are the boats coming?
(ok I'll get off my high horse now...)
Well said Gypsy, my sentiments to the letter!!
When I worked on Christmas Island there were only about 1300 people there, If the swell was up and the supply ships couldnt dock we would always run low on certain foodstuffs, was truely a p!sser,
I wonder what the locals think about being the dumping ground for who KNOWS WHO!!!
imagine the desperation of a parent to risk the lives of their children to take a dangerous boat trip into the unknown for a chance of a better life, perhaps leaving behind relatives that they may never see again. I dont think you do this unless you are desperate. Seriously imagine it, go on, try, reef your children out of bed in the middle of the night, to meet a shady charcter who promises to get you out of a place you cant bear to be in any longer, a place where perhaps you have generations of attachment, but little hope as despot after despot tear the place apart, can you blame a parent for seeking to improve its childs life?
i am prob a bit out with my figures as I'm just parroting what was said on the ABC insiders last sunday.....
in the last 30 years approx 22000 have arrived in Australia by boat, where as we have accepted approx 3 million through normal appropriate immigration channels.
so on that figure alone its a small percentage of Que jumpers.
i think the majority that come by boat are coming from a hardship of life most Australians cant relate too. i don't think they should be let loose, at least until due process is taken for security reasons, i also don't like the idea of the boats coming here mainly because of my quarantine concerns. especially up north in such remote difficult to control and contain areas, but they are human beings looking for a better life like anyone would want.
I bet there have been a few boats that have made it but the passengers didnt once the boat sailed away with their money and left them to perrish up on the west coast.
So they have three options if they choose the boat ride - die in the open ocean - die in the desert - sit in a camp for 2 years and get fed.
None of them sound that nice to me
If they knew the risk would they still do it?
Lets just forget there was a massive civil war in Sri Lanka. Right now the government there is settling old scores. Even officers in the army are not immune from being arrested.
I hope you didn't see the video of the Tamil prisoners being dragged out into a field, naked, with bound wrists and ankles and then shot in the back of the head.
Thats what these people are trying to get away from.
The question I ask is why they are coming here? Why not seek asylum in India which is much closer? I'd like to see our government working more closely with countries between here and there.
However despite that Australia has signed agreements on how to treat refugees that turn up here. As mentioned by CWamit, the numbers arriving by boat are tiny compared to those arriving by plane.
Most asylum seekers in Australia come from China. We don't hear anything about them as 99% of them arrive at an airport.
Maybe there should be some more follow up data on boat refugees as compared to "fly in" refugees. Are they more likely to assimilate and become Australians or are they more likely to retain the culture/horror they escape from ??? Australia is not "New Sri Lanka"(or new whatever) it's Australia....fair dinkum.
what i find disturbing is someone who values the preening and dressing up of a cat over the value of a human life.
Hey Gypsy,
Boat people do not want to be here! They choose to come here because they are in fear of their lives and they make the choice for that reason and that reason alone!
If you had a neighbour banging on your door asking to come in because someone was going to kill them would you turn them away?
People do not choose Australia as a refuge because of our government, they choose it as a destination because they believe they will find refuge from tyranny.
Think outside the square and ask what the "government" is doing to influence foreign powers to change their ways and keep their people happy and at home.
Jumping on the band wagon and "venting" shows a significant lack of insight into the true reality!
What a fantastic country we live in whereby children are locked in detention stripped of their freedoms for not even breaking a law.
P.R. you again like I have place OLD satisctic..of
on land detention centres...
These are new people about 2008 to 2010 on Christmas island
Let the Women and Children go..Here Here...
Abuse is crap..same as our oldies are getting in Nursing homes...
AGAIN my issue is.....what has happened to make the captains of the boats
the people smugglers...think we are such a soft touch...
I LOVE people ...we do all bleed the same blood....
But I don't like the way Australia is NOW taken for a soft touch!
Hardship in every country rips my hearts out.
BUT........now the people are coming because we have made our selves so open to not standing our ground and they think she will be right...
Sorry but I am sick of it...and I do feel the life on Christmas island for the real locals is so not the same...
Can someone explain why papers, passports etc ONLY vanish in that area of the sea
Or is it the cellulose Bermuda Triangle
That is bull**** Getfunky, I have not seen a dwarf for yonks. And dont try and tell me that they are too small to be seen!
I would say that folk tend to head for Xmas Island because it is closer, therefore cheaper and because they know that it is a processing unit and because that is where they are likely to end up anyway.
Something I remember from past debates on this issue is "the majority of illegal immigrants arrive by plane". Interesting that the focus is put on those arriving by boat.
I think we need a broader debate on the whole immigration issue here in Oz.
I am personally pretty pissed of with the amount of new people coming to live and work in WA. In my work place there are more people born outside Australia than here, where I live 3 out of 5 neighbours are new arrivals.
What advantage do we gain by opening up our special part of the world to all comers.
I would like to see all immigration stopped from this date forward. I want to protect the quality of life we have now so my children can enjoy the same!
The race and the method of arrival of immigrants are not important. The competition for good jobs, cheap housing and land and uncrowded waves fishing spots are very important.
did you ever think of the thousands of illegal immigrants that come to our shores via all the major airports and stay. all the whinging poms and the like, hoards of unskilled people that also bleed the system dry. incidentally way more that the people that come on boats, like 10 fold more. it aint just the boat peeps, they just get the publicity
we should all chip in, buy a jolly galleon and commence piracy and sink their shabby boats to the bottom of the sea yeah that,ll learn em