Big setback in his campaign the last 24hrs....very damaging one would think. I imagine the democrats will have a field day with the video.
no- I hear Romney made the mistake of telling the truth about how many potential voters are hooked on govt. handouts (47%?) and that they cannot be expected to vote for a party that will cut the amount of govt. aid they get.
its the old "more bread/ bigger circuses" story again
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sn - I am not disputing or agreeing with him - just pointing out that he might have completely farrrrrked his chances of election to the high office.
He forgot the large amount of pensioners and war veterans who make up part of the "47%" who probably would have voted for him, and would have to be complete morons to do so now.
The Republicans blew it when they nominated Romney. The only Republican candidate who had a chance to win and possibly pull America from the abyss of ruination was Ron Paul.
Paul would have shown how the big government / big business / big war policies of Obama are dragging America towards disaster.
In that video Romney is telling the truth though. It's an election between those who believe in creating wealth and those who think it's the job of the government to redistribute that wealth for their benefit. The beneficiaries would never vote for Romney.
Before his election or should that be selection win,Obama said he will withdraw the troops from [illegally invading] Aghanistan,but he did a Gillard or even worse and increased the troop numbers.
But still there is trust in the Political system.
Hold on, go back to watching Today Tonight or the News for more false left/right brainwashing.
It's the inconvenient truth, people criticize politicians for lying and spinning the truth yet here we have a candidate being completely clear and truthful.
What you folks don't understand is that only a fraction of that 47% actually vote, here we have poor people, drunks, druggies and ignoramuses making up a significant portion of that 47%, the dregs of society if you will.
Pensioners and war vets in the US vote overwhelmingly Republican.
In the last election there was so much excitement over this young hip guy that would supposedly change everything it mobilized huge numbers of young people and minorities who usually don't vote and don't care, this got him elected. Also there was a lot of voting fraud, illegal alien Mexicans voting, now several key states have passed voter ID laws where you actually have to show a valid ID to vote, imagine that? Some large cities are already showing a significant drop in registered Democrat voters, hmmm?
Also the luster is off after Obama has shown himself to be just another corporate shill who has mismanaged our economy, everything has gone wrong, Afghanistan, Iran, employment, economy etc... I just can't see him winning.
It all stems back to (mainly) the industrial revolution, when the ruling classes realised that there was tremendous profit to be made by harnessing the labour of the proletariat - and then managed to get the clergy on side to preach the virtues of hard work. The introduction of full time paid work, rather than work enough to just harvest / grow / earn to supply your families immediate needs did NOT coincide with an improvement in quality of life for the workers.
Interestingly few people question this today and are happy to work 40-50 hour weeks when the first couple of hours of labour would be enough to cover our NEEDS (food / basic shelter) and the rest of our time is basically spent earning the means to buy useless **** and keep ourselves occupied.
Without incentive there is no innovation and thus no evolution of society. If we all worked for our needs and our needs only, we wouldn't be making posts on this forum, over the internet, on a computer, at a desk, on a seat, on a floor, in a room, in a house, on a block of land and in Australia for that matter....
Few years back were the two candidates not both members of the same secret society?
Bush and Kerry i think it was.
Coincidence of course out of 300 million population,they both just happen to be members of the same secret society.
Yes, i hear you sailhack,giant monolithic coincidences do occur.
It's so secret they can't tell us the real agenda is of course World UN Government.
But first chaos must come.Then the people will demand it [martial law] from their officials.
Bush Senior,
Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective - a new world order - can emerge.
Been talked about by nearly every head of state including the Pope.
But still Moby you choose to cling to the idea that there is no NWO.
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I mean take "Capitalism". What, in essence, makes it much different from any other theism? If we just follow its ways everything will work out. You have to have faith in "The Market" as it knows best. We know this because somebody said so in a great book. Don't ever question "The Market" as it's beyond reproach. Priests that study the market tell us about it on television each day. some people even devote their lives to the market, and to them we look to for financial guidance. "The market" decides how much I toil and judges my worth. I give it ~10% of my income. If I work hard I'll have a good retirement/afterlife.
I say the market doesn't exist. The market is dead.
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And it's not just Capitalism, you can slot any other theism in the above an it's the same. It goes much, much, muuuuuch deeper than that. It's subtle and it may not even be advisable to see its/your own face, if that's even possible.
My map is breaking up
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Who the hell put LSD in my coffee?
"Has Romney blown it?"
I thought this thread was going to be about a leaked video showing sexual liasons and stained dresses, and something all american happening in the oval oriface.
Americans are going to spend 6 billion dollars choosing their leader this time.
What a monumental waste of money. Their political system is horrendous. Why are we even talking about this - their election isn't for another year and a half!
^ Nah. The money's still there. Its just in different hands now. It hasn't been tipped into the ocean or anything (see panama canal French attempt). It goes around and around and around ...and around.
...never really getting to somewhere it is sorely needed.
It all stems back to (mainly) the industrial revolution, when the ruling classes realised that there was tremendous profit to be made by harnessing the labour of the proletariat - and then managed to get the clergy on side to preach the virtues of hard work. The introduction of full time paid work, rather than work enough to just harvest / grow / earn to supply your families immediate needs did NOT coincide with an improvement in quality of life for the workers.
Interestingly few people question this today and are happy to work 40-50 hour weeks when the first couple of hours of labour would be enough to cover our NEEDS (food / basic shelter) and the rest of our time is basically spent earning the means to buy useless **** and keep ourselves occupied.
Without incentive there is no innovation and thus no evolution of society. If we all worked for our needs and our needs only, we wouldn't be making posts on this forum, over the internet, on a computer, at a desk, on a seat, on a floor, in a room, in a house, on a block of land and in Australia for that matter....
True - we might just be chatting with our family or neighbours after putting in 4 or 5 hours looking after our little vegie garden and pigs and chickens.
Ok that's probably an oversimplification - but is a world where a significant amount of people work massive hours and don't like their jobs and resent that there is too little time to do the things that matter - but that's ok because we have a 4 bedroom house and 2 cars and a garage full of toys - REALLY progress. Is this what all of out amazing innovations of the last 200 years have produced for us - longer work hours, more stuff, increasing populations and a natural world under pressure.
PS I work a 40 hour week, but it's I'm just not really sure what else to do........