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Help needed - searching for 'dumpers' in Perth!

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Created by missellie > 9 months ago, 4 Oct 2011
missellie
6 posts
4 Oct 2011 7:02PM
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Are you a Perth Metro Wave Expert??
I'm trying to shoot a film for a uni project and need to find (ASAP) large waves dumping right up high on the sand. I'm fairly limited to how far I can travel North or South of the city so if you have any idea where these waves might be happening, what conditions I should look for or even if you know who else I might ask, please respond and know you'll be making someone smile!!!

Mister Dugong
368 posts
4 Oct 2011 7:08PM
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pretty much all of it........

except for the large bit.... you wont find that at all!!

Mark _australia
WA, 22414 posts
4 Oct 2011 8:24PM
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are you the same one who wanted windsurfers at Safety Bay, or is there heaps of uni ppl needing our help?

anyway, big swell would help.

elmo
WA, 8732 posts
4 Oct 2011 8:32PM
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I know its not metro but Just north of Yallingup (rabbits I think) has an awesome shorey

missellie
6 posts
4 Oct 2011 8:54PM
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Thank you one and all!!!

No I'm not the same student looking for windsurfers in Safety Bay and if I have to go as far as Yallingup I'll have to hope the car will get me there and back. The waves I'm looking for are un-surfable and the reason I want to film them is that you can 'ride' the air they expell - if you're a chick, or don't mind wearing a skirt and I don't think anyone has ever caught it on film - only know one person who has ever done it and they're prepared to try it for the film - you can hover and if the waves are powerful enough they will even lift you higher into the air - so it means a hell of alot if anyone can keep me updated especially if they see the wave conditions developing. so please keep me informed.

thanks ever so, ellie

GPA
WA, 2520 posts
4 Oct 2011 9:06PM
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Not sure what to make of this...

Anyways... third car park Trigg Beach on a 3+ meter swell (> 1.2m as reported at Cottesloe). Or better still, north Scarborough - about 300-400m north of the Ampitheatre.

Not sure that they will break close enough to shore for what you are after - if I am understanding it...

Northbeach - but beware the rocks on the shoreline... even Mullaloo beach on a larger swell - just north of the surfclub.

Perth is full of Dumpers... just maybe not as big as you might be looking for.

Oh - and for the best chance of Dumpers look at low tide (check the nightly weather forecast at the end of the 6:00pm news).

Mark _australia
WA, 22414 posts
4 Oct 2011 9:19PM
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I could give you a lift down south on the weekend?



GalahOnTheBay
NSW, 4188 posts
5 Oct 2011 12:23AM
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It's not in Perth, but maybe this is what you are after:

from www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/SUP/And-the-best-shorebreak-for-BOP-training-is





Haircut
QLD, 6481 posts
5 Oct 2011 12:20AM
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WTF!!

subasurf
WA, 2154 posts
4 Oct 2011 10:27PM
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Depending on the nature of the shot and angle requirements, you may just need to hit up a stock library :P
Don't expect large dumping waves around Perth for a while. Dumping...yeah...large...no

GreenPat
QLD, 4083 posts
5 Oct 2011 12:29AM
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Haircut said...

WTF!!


Lots of WTF in this thread.

Carantoc
WA, 6666 posts
4 Oct 2011 10:34PM
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missellie said...



.... is that you can 'ride' the air they expell - if you're a chick, or don't mind wearing a skirt and I don't think anyone has ever caught it on film - only know one person who has ever done it and they're prepared to try it for the film - you can hover and if the waves are powerful enough they will even lift you higher into the air - so it means a hell of alot if anyone can keep me updated especially if they see the wave conditions developing. so please keep me informed.

thanks ever so, ellie


Another stoodent spending my hard earned tax dollars on drink and drugs

Listen luv - you cannot levitate above the ocean - no matter what your ****ed out, stoned out mates tell ya.

I know Jesus did, but that was different

If you really want to leviate you need quantum entanglement, but I assure you it is a big mistake coming here to discuss that.

Toots
WA, 271 posts
4 Oct 2011 10:59PM
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GalahOnTheBay said...

It's not in Perth, but maybe this is what you are after:

from www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/SUP/And-the-best-shorebreak-for-BOP-training-is








I dont want to let on how self destructiuve I can be but that shorey honestly makes me hard.

For the OP if you can get to the east coast Stocko will do it for you on high tide on a good ground swell and coz its a 25Km + beach most of the time you get 10-15Km+ shorey closeout Barrels, ie, if you stick your ultra wide angle or even 300mm+ Lens you're gonna get at least a dollar for your shot. ;)

missellie
6 posts
5 Oct 2011 1:14AM
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Ok thanks again - the photos are amazing - a little larger than needed perhaps. I've checked out north Scarborough and City beach and the waves are breaking a little too far out at the moment and are about half the size I need. Dumpers (preferably head height or larger) onto sand or ankle deep water will work but any deeper and its too hard to get airborne.

Yes this can be done, I've seen it - the lady was a professional dancer who was able to combine a leap in the air with single and double pirouettes and time it so that the air expelled by the wave caught under her skirt and ballooned it out - this meant that the weaker waves held her in place longer than usual at the apex of her leap and the strongest ones lifted her higher. The number of rotations she could get from the strongest waves was mindblowing. So this has to happen where the coast is sand - landing on rock or wall is too dangerous, especially when the lady is descending from a higher than normally achieved level.

No I'm not wasting your tax dollar - don't get hecs and pay my own way or accumulate personal debt.

The film concept is built around the level of law breaking people will go to in order to express themselves - risks taken for the freedom of expression. It is easy to find cases of people breaking civil or criminal law - one of the other subjects in the film is burnouts. What i'm trying to find is a way to show someone expressing themselves by 'breaking' a law of nature (although she is actually 'using' a law of nature/physics).

I'll look into getting to yallingup if no-one can recommend anywhere closer and i'll post the footage (unedited) so you can see the result, if you still don't think it can be done.

I'm trying to learn the language and decipher meanings of swell, tides and wind direction - please be patient.

Would love it if you all keep looking> Thank you all so much.
Thanks for all the input

hamburglar
ACT, 2174 posts
5 Oct 2011 8:50AM
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you language english speak most better than here on

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
5 Oct 2011 9:39AM
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Check out the graphs on seabrezze and it will give you an idea of the size of the swell which may save you a trip.

I reckon you should try and get some HDR funding and head over to Newport in California and visit the wedge - could have just what you are looking for.



Woodo
WA, 792 posts
5 Oct 2011 9:35AM
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All sounds a bit fishy to me but i'll bite...

If you want a wave that breaks right on or close to the shore then try the dog beach that runs from brighton to floreat. End of hale rd should be what your after.
All you'll need is some swell...

missellie
6 posts
5 Oct 2011 9:42AM
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Thanks Woodo,

Will have a look at that beach to day and keep watching the graphs to anticipate when/if the swell is going to improve.

evlPanda
NSW, 9202 posts
5 Oct 2011 12:48PM
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Does this have anything to do with the lady's dress being quantum entangled with another dress that is space? Or is it even weirder?

PS this is fn weird.

Carantoc
WA, 6666 posts
5 Oct 2011 9:55AM
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There was a Yeti walking his dog down at Floreat beach last week.

I know it is true because I have seen it.

The Yeti was a professional dog walker.

Having said that it may have been a goat he was walking, I have heard they are a few goats about this time of year that enjoy nothing more than a quick swim in the ocean.

Just very quickly run a bit of physics past me :
a) estimated volume of air trapped by wave as it breaks
b) area of hole through which is escapes
c) time that it takes to escape
d) hence force generated
e) weight of person

I think you need to be looking for CGI film editing software, not shore breaks.

Carantoc
WA, 6666 posts
5 Oct 2011 9:58AM
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missellie said...

Yes this can be done, I've seen it - the lady was a professional dancer who was able to combine a leap in the air with single and double pirouettes and time it so that the air expelled by the wave caught under her skirt and ballooned it out - this meant that the weaker waves held her in place longer than usual at the apex of her leap and the strongest ones lifted her higher. The number of rotations she could get from the strongest waves was mindblowing.


Sorry, yes I saw that too.

It was in 'the Little Mermaid'. Did crab and a fish clap as she did it ?

Great documentry about the ocean that one.

dusta
WA, 2940 posts
5 Oct 2011 10:02AM
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i'll drive you down to yallingup

BulldogPup
6657 posts
5 Oct 2011 10:04AM
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Yallingup - december / january thereabouts .... oh and the Pup ALSO offers his chauffeur service including air-conditioning , leather seated creature comfort , 10 speaker sound etc

felixdcat
WA, 3519 posts
5 Oct 2011 10:15AM
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missellie said...

Ok thanks again - the photos are amazing - a little larger than needed perhaps. I've checked out north Scarborough and City beach and the waves are breaking a little too far out at the moment and are about half the size I need. Dumpers (preferably head height or larger) onto sand or ankle deep water will work but any deeper and its too hard to get airborne.

Yes this can be done, I've seen it - the lady was a professional dancer who was able to combine a leap in the air with single and double pirouettes and time it so that the air expelled by the wave caught under her skirt and ballooned it out - this meant that the weaker waves held her in place longer than usual at the apex of her leap and the strongest ones lifted her higher. The number of rotations she could get from the strongest waves was mindblowing. So this has to happen where the coast is sand - landing on rock or wall is too dangerous, especially when the lady is descending from a higher than normally achieved level.

No I'm not wasting your tax dollar - don't get hecs and pay my own way or accumulate personal debt.

The film concept is built around the level of law breaking people will go to in order to express themselves - risks taken for the freedom of expression. It is easy to find cases of people breaking civil or criminal law - one of the other subjects in the film is burnouts. What i'm trying to find is a way to show someone expressing themselves by 'breaking' a law of nature (although she is actually 'using' a law of nature/physics).

I'll look into getting to yallingup if no-one can recommend anywhere closer and i'll post the footage (unedited) so you can see the result, if you still don't think it can be done.

I'm trying to learn the language and decipher meanings of swell, tides and wind direction - please be patient.

Would love it if you all keep looking> Thank you all so much.
Thanks for all the input

Pictures or it didn't happened!

GalahOnTheBay
NSW, 4188 posts
5 Oct 2011 1:28PM
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^^^ +1

Video is also acceptable

missellie said...

Ok thanks again - the photos are amazing - a little larger than needed perhaps. I've checked out north Scarborough and City beach and the waves are breaking a little too far out at the moment and are about half the size I need. Dumpers (preferably head height or larger) onto sand or ankle deep water will work but any deeper and its too hard to get airborne.


That's the biggest the world has to offer (apparently) and is about 4-5 times the height of the person (measured from the front )

Getting anywhere near that kind / size of wave is "unwise".

missellie
6 posts
5 Oct 2011 10:30AM
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Sorry bulldog but have to have the film finished within a fortnight so dec/jan is out.

felix - haven't got photos - saw it done north scarborough, summer, few years ago and didn't have camera that day, wasn't a film student then, which is why i've offered to post unedited film footage IF I can find the waves. with the amount of work i've got to have finished in the next few weeks I don't have time to waste on chasing something that isn"t real.
I accept your right to disbelieve and look forward to posting some film.

please keep posting if you see big dumpers or hear of any large swell miraculously appearing! I don't understand all the graphs yet. please please please

felixdcat
WA, 3519 posts
5 Oct 2011 10:49AM
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missellie said...

Sorry bulldog but have to have the film finished within a fortnight so dec/jan is out.

felix - haven't got photos - saw it done north scarborough, summer, few years ago and didn't have camera that day, wasn't a film student then, which is why i've offered to post unedited film footage IF I can find the waves. with the amount of work i've got to have finished in the next few weeks I don't have time to waste on chasing something that isn"t real.
I accept your right to disbelieve and look forward to posting some film.

please keep posting if you see big dumpers or hear of any large swell miraculously appearing! I don't understand all the graphs yet. please please please

Not desbelieving.... would love to see it!

dusta
WA, 2940 posts
5 Oct 2011 11:04AM
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send me a pic and i can take you down to yallingup this weekend

Little Jon
NSW, 2115 posts
5 Oct 2011 2:16PM
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I dump big every morning[}:)]

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
5 Oct 2011 11:28AM
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Little Jon said...

I dump big every morning[}:)]


Was waiting for that

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
5 Oct 2011 11:33AM
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On a big swell or a bit of a storm it breaks right onto the beach at Quinns...But really not sure how big you need it to be.



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