I do note that the LR's seem to consistantly get the best 4wd awards though.
I am looking at getting a Disco4 to replace my 300k+ 80 series. The problem is that my 80 series just won't miss a beat and I can't justify the cash layout.....
Now if I had the cash for one of the new rangies.....
It's leaking on your road already, just in front of the driver's front wheel.
I had one a few years back. Nice car to drive but lots of problems. Mine was also series 1. The engine was smooth, but way underpowered with the baby turbo diesel. The transmission shifted nicely. The suspension travel was nice. Roomy interior. Lots of electrical problems and engine stuff that cut short a couple of trips. I'm glad to have sold it.
My first forby was a Landy, '72 series 3 wagon. Fitted with a roof tent and all! She did about 80 clicks flatout down a hill.
We did a few trips with that old beast and some of the boys would bring ear muffs on the long hauls, it was quite amusing to the passers by!
Don't worry smick0, some people just don't get it. I loved my Disco for the 12 years I had it (V8). Towed the boat like a dream and rarely missed a beat. Until the end, the ONLY problems I had were electrical and they are mostly made by Bosch - German, not British!
Biggest mistake I made was getting it converted to LPG when the guvnmint was giving out cash to do it.. all the problems started then. Eventually the engine had issues which although fixable were worth more to do than the car was worth. I now own a Nissan - nice vehicle but not the same.
I can say unequivocally that the hands down worst 4wd I ever owned was a Landrover Discovery S2 TDI. I think I spent 23% of its buying price on repairs and on road rescues. Electrics, Suspenion, Gearbox, Electrics.
I am the very happy and so far care-free owner 2006 Pajero V6
I don't claim to know anything about 4wds.
I bought an 80 series landcruiser (91 model) about 11 years ago. It had 350k on it when the odometer stopped working about 8 years ago.
It's been across the Nullabor twice, towing a van. It goes anywhere and will carry half a ton of firewood in the back and the same of jarrah beams on the roof at the same time.
The injector pump srung a leak a month ago and cost me over a grand. Apart from that it's just been fuel, tyres(once), oil and water.
I am not kind to my cars.
I can't find anything to complain of, and thinking of all the cars I have owned that's really unusual.
an associate had one for many years with a 5litre v8 from a vn commodore oops that was a rangerover
I looked at one when the kids started getting bigger. the only 4WD that they could fit in the fold up rear seats were the Discovery and the 100series LC. the demo model at the landrover dealer had a tow bar so I turned up with my boat and trailer on the back of the commodore and asked to do a testdrive with the trailer, as I was tossing up between a new Discovery and a 100series. the boat and trailer is around 1100kg loaded up .
the dealer just said buy a good secondhand 100series, dont even bother with the discovery.
he even found a great lowmilage vehicle and shipped it to Kal for a test drive.
Honesty cant have been the best policy as he eventually shut up shop.
he just couldnt sell landrovers , lots of cruisers and patrols though.
the perth dealers would trade them in perth and send them up to Kal to sell , as we kinda like big engines to run our A/C units and tow our boats and toys around
I learnt to drive on the beach with my dad in one of these.
It was built like a tank and you had to double de clutch to change down. No power steering no comforts just lots of steel.
We had it to tow our boat into the ocean which it did easily.
I'd never buy one now mind to exy for not a lot i reckon.
This is my fourth Landy, also had Patrols, Terrano(pathfinder
) Landcruiser TD Sahara
and a Pajero Exceed most recently. The joy of Landies is that they are so cheap and easy to build into an off road weapon and incredibly economical. And have nice road manners.
This is a 300Tdi manual with D-gas, suprisingly pokey as it is but a snorkel and three inch straight through will really open it up. Very little in the way of electrickery.
Once you know your way around them they are dirt cheap to maintain and very easy to work on. Dent a panel, rip it off and rivet another on.
Live axel 4B's are getting thin on the ground and if you go the places I like to then IFS just doesn't cut it, you have to hammer them to get there and that's when things go pear shaped.
147K's on the clock, neat and tidy, no leaks(the oil is from neighbors Dunnydoor) and all for the princely sum of $7300. Just picked up a new Detroit locker and a set of upgraded axels for a grand, got a bullbar on the way for two hunj and that'll be about it. It's already lifted and has brand new rubber.
Off road weapon for $8500. Bargain.
Select to expand quoteJust picked up a new Detroit locker and a set of upgraded axels for a grand, got a bullbar on the way for two hunj and that'll be about it. It's already lifted and has brand new rubber.
Off road weapon for $8500. Bargain.
Righto looks like you know how to find a good deal.
Its amazing how much further you go with a locker (even in a landie!)
Then its only a matter of time before the body lift,second locker and big tyres are put on the shopping list.
A true 4by is never finished!
My old girl. Should never have sold it. Went to good hands and was fully restored.
Captain Kaos used to have a series hardtop like that Suba bloody thing was horrifying over 70k's an hour, just a wee bit of play in the steering.
Mine had plenty of steering play, brakes needed to be pumped like mad but she could do 115km/h without screaming. We did a highspeed diff conversion.
Absolute beast...never quit and took me everywhere.
Our one had shocking steering play.
+50mp/h it was fully scary.
But this thing went anywhere and pulled anything. Was a really good fun vehicle.
Geesh all this land rover bashing
I'm on my 4th in 10 years and love em especially the discovery 4, the cost of maintanece is no worse than any other car I've had.
And certainly a lot less than a wife, Much quieter too.
Wouldn't want an old discovery though
Rovers might not be the most reliable 4WD out there (although this can be debated until the cows come home) but they are the only ones out there with real charm, history and prestige.
**** Toyotas...they're great but they're just generic tools. I've had a number of cars, most of them offroaders. My 1973 LandRover was the greatest car I ever had...and the cheapest.
Reliable as you can get. The easiest thing to maintain and work on (a million times easier than my Turbo Diesel Hilux Surf) and the most enjoyable to drive...despite it's boat like characteristics. I'm in my early 20s and had that car a couple years ago and I use to get so many nods and waves of approval from older chaps who were stoked to see a young guy enjoying such a classic vehicle. We use to load it up to buggery with fuel, food, beer, fishing gear, swags and surfboards and head off without a care in the world; knowing that the beast would tackle any tracks we were presented with...or die trying
I didn't care that she was ugly to others; it was a thing of beauty to me...rusted rear cross member and all I didn't mind when a few drops of oil leaked onto the driveway...I just knew it was my beast marking her territory. I didn't mind that the seatbelt didn't work and the brakes had to be pumped 5 times before they worked or that there was a hole in the fuel tank (my fault) which meant I could only fill her up half way. I didn't mind when the rear left tire exploded on the freeway creating a nice fireworks display while my tank was busy leaking or when I lost control of her on a gravel road down south and hit a tree...the tree did mind though...
Land Rover: 1 Tree: 0
My Landy was the only car I've had that I use to stare at in the driveway while I enjoyed an after work beer. None of the other cars did that to me. I still terribly regret selling her...despite the profit I made and despite the fact she's gone on to be restored. I still want my old beast back so I can drive it through one more river...up one more beach and to one more remote surfbreak...roof off, windshield down and stereo inaudible 
She even had 'bra' on her number plate...
Landrover=Overpriced Pommie junk your better of buying overpriced Australian junk....Namley (Ford Holden)
Buy Japanese and never look back.
Landrover=Overpriced Pommie junk your better of buying overpriced Australian junk....Namley (Ford Holden)
Buy Japanese and never look back.
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I agree. Sorry Mick thought you woulda learnt by now!
They shoulda put the Isuzu 4BD1T engine in all of them. from memory it was only the countys and the army additions that got this engine(quality japanese)
And the 72 I owned did everything it needed to do and at that age(early 20's) who really cares as long as it gets you there. I do remember you refusing to drive it cause you thought it was a heap. WOOS. had an alltime trip to the bluff in that rig in 92. took ages! used to just go over a 100ks
Was HOLDEN 186 powered though.
Love my landy (& so does the 5yo daughter), despite the occasional gremlins which have mainly been electrical (bosch) it has been mostly trouble free motoring & fairly good economy. Worst thing would have to be the pi$$ poor airconditioning, best thing would have to be the hose out interior and aesthetics - a timeless looking classic. I guess like any vehicle you treat it nice (reg services etc) & it'll treat you nice back.
