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Line Up the Suspects

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Created by oceanfire > 9 months ago, 23 Aug 2012
oceanfire
WA, 718 posts
23 Aug 2012 11:24AM
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I was just reading one of the threads discussing the recurrent theme of our co-inhabitants of the sea, ie- the Great Whites, when something occurred to me.

There is a theory amongst some that there is a rogue shark responsible for the recent multiple attacks.

If this theory is true, then we could extrapolate from that, the same shark could probably be attributed to the many non attack encounters recently.

So, there have been many encounters captured on film recently, vids and photos, so I would suggest we use the power of numbers here to post up images from all of these recorded encounters, and use them to try and identify any common marks/identifying features on the shark/s in question.

Perhaps we can identify if it really is the same shark, or couple of sharks.

What do you say?
I figured it'd be worth a go.

If you reckon it's worth a try, post the line up pics guys...

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
23 Aug 2012 11:43AM
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Nom nom nom

MintoxGT
WA, 975 posts
23 Aug 2012 11:57AM
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Thats valid, why not?

Good idea however the pics will need to be pretty good quality.

Well done!

oceanfire
WA, 718 posts
23 Aug 2012 12:01PM
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MintoxGT said...

Thats valid, why not?

Good idea however the pics will need to be pretty good quality.

Well done!




Cheers.
Yeah, hopefully we can find some good pics, which is why I thought it'd be good to put the call out to everyone, the more eyes on the web the better.

I figured that a lot of pics are of the heads anyway and these sharks can have some pretty good scars, hopefully the scars will be visible in even poorer quality pics.

Here's another one;

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/14178047/divers-close-close-call-with-a-great-white/



doggie
WA, 15849 posts
23 Aug 2012 12:17PM
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But they all look the same

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
23 Aug 2012 12:23PM
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^^ What Jaws movie was that from?

stamp
QLD, 2770 posts
23 Aug 2012 2:35PM
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doggie said...

But they all look the same


such a sharkist comment...

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
23 Aug 2012 1:17PM
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stamp said...

doggie said...

But they all look the same


such a sharkist comment...




Is that "shark racism"

evlPanda
NSW, 9202 posts
23 Aug 2012 3:56PM
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doggie said...

^^ What Jaws movie was that from?


Pretty sure it's just a normal day in Perth?

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
23 Aug 2012 1:57PM
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evlPanda said...

doggie said...

^^ What Jaws movie was that from?


Pretty sure it's just a normal day in Perth?


Jandicott airport lake lol

oceanfire
WA, 718 posts
23 Aug 2012 2:35PM
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Fair go fellas, I was hoping this thread might be able to be given a decent chance before it descended into the usual ass-hattery.

fingerbone
NSW, 921 posts
23 Aug 2012 4:47PM
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I cant see any reason to hunt down that particular shark..It is only doing what it is made to do ( kill anything that it wants too )
Its like identifying a croc that attacked someone or a snake for that matter.

They don't hunt us down its just what they do.

I say shark fin soup for all...( only the man eaters )

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
23 Aug 2012 2:54PM
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Nom nom

oceanfire
WA, 718 posts
23 Aug 2012 2:55PM
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fingerbone said...

I cant see any reason to hunt down that particular shark..It is only doing what it is made to do ( kill anything that it wants too )
Its like identifying a croc that attacked someone or a snake for that matter.

They don't hunt us down its just what they do.

I say shark fin soup for all...( only the man eaters )




I never said to hunt it down.

Am just trying to test a theory.

There is obviously much more objective evidence needed for this whole shark debate, instead of ranting and raving on either side of the fence, I figured this might be a good way to help out.

grumplestiltskin
WA, 2331 posts
23 Aug 2012 5:12PM
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OK,
based on the pics posted so far, I think you might be on to something.

Look at the distintive mark on the right side of the face, about halfway between the eye and the nose (the dark mark in the white area of the face)





oceanfire
WA, 718 posts
23 Aug 2012 5:28PM
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grumplestiltskin said...

OK,
based on the pics posted so far, I think you might be on to something.

Look at the distintive mark on the right side of the face, about halfway between the eye and the nose (the dark mark in the white area of the face)



I'll give you credit that was at least a little wittier than some of the other comments.

Pitbull
WA, 1267 posts
23 Aug 2012 5:38PM
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The dark mark looks like its nostril. I bet there's a similar one on the other side.

GypsyDrifter
WA, 2371 posts
23 Aug 2012 8:48PM
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It looks like the shark that came at me in Movie world...

BulldogPup
6657 posts
23 Aug 2012 8:56PM
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thats because it is

inside grunt
WA, 72 posts
23 Aug 2012 9:02PM
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Sharkasim

surferstu
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24 Aug 2012 9:51AM
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oceanfire
WA, 718 posts
24 Aug 2012 9:58AM
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Well I have to say I'm surprised.
I thought this thread would have generated a lot more serious interest than it has, especially due to the numbers of passionate armchair experts who post in the threads complaining about the 'shark problem'.

Seems no one is actually interested in doing something practical in any small way, that may help our understanding of the situation?

Easier to take the piss.


Anyway, going by the small sample of real shark pics posted, looking at the pattern of the line dividing the grey and white colouring on the sharks faces, I'd say it looks like all of these sharks are individuals, which could dispel the theory of a single rogue shark.

It is however a limited evaluation as we don't have pics of both sides of each of these sharks.

Of course more pics (real) would go a long way towards determining the answer.

kiterboy
2614 posts
24 Aug 2012 10:09AM
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Dude, didn't you get the message loud and clear?

No one gives a ****.

They all wanna be armchair heroes and think that they are the funniest and greatest trolls on the net.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
24 Aug 2012 10:19AM
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Tbh, I never thought it was one or two rouge sharks. Imo its lots of sharks. They havnt benn hunted/fished for over ten years so their numbers must be up, this combined with whale migration means we are getting more close in to the coast.

And, arnt all sharks rouge sharks?

kiterboy
2614 posts
24 Aug 2012 10:23AM
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LOL, and red-thumb cowboys, who don't have the mental capacity to actually make a sensible statement, I don't blame them though, it must take a long time to type with two fingers.

Click on the red thumbs, much easier.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
24 Aug 2012 10:26AM
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kiterboy said...

LOL, and red-thumb cowboys, who don't have the mental capacity to actually make a sensible statement, I don't blame them though, it must take a long time to type with two fingers.

Click on the red thumbs, much easier.


Well I made a comment and thumed you because it was a dumb comment!

oceanfire
WA, 718 posts
24 Aug 2012 10:26AM
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doggie said...

Tbh, I never thought it was one or two rouge sharks. Imo its lots of sharks. They havnt benn hunted/fished for over ten years so their numbers must be up, this combined with whale migration means we are getting more close in to the coast.

And, arnt all sharks rouge sharks?


That's the sort of discussion I was trying to foster here, but I was hoping to get some sort of empirical evidence gathered in one place to hopefully prove or disprove the theory of a 'single rogue shark'.

@kiterboy
chill mate, haters gonna hate

stamp
QLD, 2770 posts
24 Aug 2012 12:27PM
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oceanfire said...

Well I have to say I'm surprised.
I thought this thread would have generated a lot more serious interest than it has, especially due to the numbers of passionate armchair experts who post in the threads complaining about the 'shark problem'.

Seems no one is actually interested in doing something practical in any small way, that may help our understanding of the situation?

Easier to take the piss.


Anyway, going by the small sample of real shark pics posted, looking at the pattern of the line dividing the grey and white colouring on the sharks faces, I'd say it looks like all of these sharks are individuals, which could dispel the theory of a single rogue shark.

It is however a limited evaluation as we don't have pics of both sides of each of these sharks.

Of course more pics (real) would go a long way towards determining the answer.


i have to say i'm surprised:
this is not a marine biology forum- we're in no position to gauge one shark from another or even know what to look for. maybe their markings change with breeding cycles or water temp?
these are not accurate pictures taken from the same distance, height, angle, depth, position etc.
with no dates or places given with the shots it could well be the same one snapped a few times over a couple of days- that doesn't mean there's one rogue shark harassing the whole coast. it doesn't actually mean squat.

in my opinion this thread does sweet fa to solve the issue; if anything it makes it cloudier.
so don't throw a tanty when people have a laugh with it..you're in the wrong place if you're gonna take yourself seriously

oceanfire
WA, 718 posts
24 Aug 2012 10:30AM
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stamp said...

oceanfire said...

Well I have to say I'm surprised.
I thought this thread would have generated a lot more serious interest than it has, especially due to the numbers of passionate armchair experts who post in the threads complaining about the 'shark problem'.

Seems no one is actually interested in doing something practical in any small way, that may help our understanding of the situation?

Easier to take the piss.


Anyway, going by the small sample of real shark pics posted, looking at the pattern of the line dividing the grey and white colouring on the sharks faces, I'd say it looks like all of these sharks are individuals, which could dispel the theory of a single rogue shark.

It is however a limited evaluation as we don't have pics of both sides of each of these sharks.

Of course more pics (real) would go a long way towards determining the answer.


i have to say i'm surprised:
this is not a marine biology forum- we're in no position to gauge one shark from another or even know what to look for. maybe their markings change with breeding cycles or water temp?
these are not accurate pictures taken from the same distance, height, angle, depth, position etc.
with no dates or places given with the shots it could well be the same one snapped a few times over a couple of days- that doesn't mean there's one rogue shark harassing the whole coast. it doesn't actually mean squat.

in my opinion this thread does sweet fa to solve the issue; if anything it makes it cloudier.
so don't throw a tanty when people have a laugh with it..you're in the wrong place if you're gonna take yourself seriously



You must be pretty fragile if you thought that was a tanty.

But of course mate, you're right, let's not try to learn anything.
Back to sleep then.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
24 Aug 2012 10:31AM
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oceanfire said...

doggie said...

Tbh, I never thought it was one or two rouge sharks. Imo its lots of sharks. They havnt benn hunted/fished for over ten years so their numbers must be up, this combined with whale migration means we are getting more close in to the coast.

And, arnt all sharks rouge sharks?


That's the sort of discussion I was trying to foster here, but I was hoping to get some sort of empirical evidence gathered in one place to hopefully prove or disprove the theory of a 'single rogue shark'.

@kiterboy
chill mate, haters gonna hate


I recon Ive read every news article on the attacks and even tho the facts from witnesses can be a bit innacurate they all quote different size sharks.



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