Why would the DEC be conducting burn offs anywhere near this time of year? I completely understand the need to burn off but does it have to be done at such a high risk time? Hoping they can get this blaze under control before more homes are lost and here's hoping nobody loses their life due to negligence.
Weather forecast for early tomorrow isn't looking good.
Absolutely agree - can't understand it at all , yeah hope no-one is at risk (or worse) woodo.
+1 here
I'd say those that have lost there houses already will be a tad on the annoyed side of things,
Someones gonna need mighty deep pockets,
Yep...the whole situation is one that never should have even happened.
Some of my friends were evacuated last night. Not good.
Because the burning that should have happened a month ago was restricted due to CHOGM. The Govt did not want the tiniest little bit of haze around the city.
Image is more important than peoples lives.
Same thing happened around Denmark a year or two back, and believe it or not, again today!
www.abc.net.au/news/2011-11-24/denmark-fire-sparks-concern/3691910?section=wa
Nah it's all ok because now we can blame it on global warming, and daaayngerous climate change.
Gee it's hot today. Yes. It's because of global warming.
It was a bit warm last night. Yes. It's one of the effects of daaayngerous climate change.
My house (and many others) are in the direct line of the fire at gnarabup/prevelly. The DEC lit fires to 'burn off' by dropping sparklers from a helicopter on Monday. I knew, as well as I am sure they did, that Wednesday was going to be strong N winds.!
My brother lost his house. We were lucky it didn't hit our place. Not happy. It could have been fatal.
The council should implement fire exclusion zones. Unfortunately The department of conservation dosent honor people clearing native vegetation and felling trees.recomended by FESA (fire and emergency services The council must implement 20 metre+ exclusion zones around suburban dwellings in high risk fire areas As stated by fesa Fire A emergency prevention. The DEC are incompetent and negligent in protecting people and there properties. They place people lives in risk to save a few trees. Things will change . Thought they would of after the Victorian fires.
Just talked to my sister-in-law who is a firey station officer and is down there with her crew from Freo. She said that the amount of burnt out country is incredible and everything is just burned black. houses, bush land etc. she also said that the fire is under control for now and she expects to be back in Perth tomorrow. she is buggered, which is to be expected.!
All this blame laid directly at FESA/DEC and the prescribed burn . I think we also need to look at the properties and did the land owners upkeep their properties to a safe standard .
Just look at the roleystone fires ,hardly anyone in the hills clears their properties of tinder . I know we never did when i lived in the hills .
I am not trying to blame land owners specifically but i think there needs to be better education of land owners and not just putting the blame on FESA but of course i am going to get red thumbed for my thoughts as it's the seabreeze way
Buster you say DEC/FESA etc should be more concerned with saving properties rather than a few trees . Why exactly do you think they have been doing the burns for the last few months ?
Yer thats right to save a few trees
It was to try and remove alot of dry undergrowth to stop this **** . Yes their timing may have not been perfect but they are doing stuff that should have been done by landowners themselves .
Appendix 4: Perth Hills Bushfire Review Terms of Reference
The Inquiry will seek to address all aspects of bushfire risk management in the Perth Hills area with specific reference to:
The adequacy of current preventative measures, specifically prescribed burning and other bushfire mitigation activities.
The impact of land use, environmental and building laws, practices and policies in the affected areas, affecting bushfire prevention, mitigation and response and what, if any, changes may be required.
The actions that can and should be taken by landowners, residents and tenants in relation to bushfire risk management including undertaking vegetation clearance,
Clearing fire exclusion zones recomended by FESA around main dwellings is the answer DOC has alot to answer for.
If the doc is so good why would they fine you up to half a million dollars for clearing native vegetation to create a fire exclusion zone.
grass and leaves and stuff like that is considered native vegetation ?
like i said not trying to pass the blame away from DEC/fesa etc , just saying that homeowners need to be held accountable as well . I highly doubt all these properties were well maintained .
It's the beautiful south west, why would you want to clear your block of surrounding trees? That's the risk people take. Insurance covers this risk.
Doesn't matter how clear your block is, in the given temperatures and wind forecast, it wouldn't have saved your house.
A bloke in Gnarabup did everything in regards to fire safety. He even got rid of trees that were considered a fire hazard. In fact his house was the one on the front cover of the paper. He had green grass around his house. And the only two trees that didn't burn were the ones that are fire safe trees. I'm not sure of the proper name. So no degree of clearing would have saved a house in the path of the Margaret River fire. It jumped the river!
It's the DEC who are to blame.
For this partucular fire DEC are to blame, but if it wasn't lit at the hand of DEC it would eventually have been someone with an angle grinder, cigarette butt or at the hands of an arsonist.
No-one wants the bush around their neighbourhood charred from a controlled burn, but so many don't accept the risk that comes with a block in the bush that doesn't have any fire mitigation measures and a high fuel load. So many are totally ignorant of their risk, they are under-prepared and under-insured and protest loudly against control burns and their impact on the environment.
Nor do many understand that a fire in conditions like this one (regardless of ignition source) WILL accelerate out of control at a rate exponentially faster that the combines ability of FRS/VFRS/DEC/BFS's abilities to respond.
I feel sorry for those that did everything right in preparing and adequately insuring their home and keeping safe their family and sentimental items but still lost everything, but for those that weren't adequately prepared, they must wear some responsibility and not just blame DEC.
You've got to love the position DEC are in, conduct control burns with the best of intentions and get screwed, don't conduct burns, but a fire happens anyway through arson or what ever, and they still get screwed. It's a lose/lose game and I have no idea why anyone would want to take on the top job at DEC for that reason.