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Motorbike Vs Wife

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Created by TerryKiter > 9 months ago, 1 Sep 2013
Chris6791
WA, 3271 posts
3 Sep 2013 4:10PM
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patsken said..

evlPanda said..

www.tac.vic.gov.au/road-safety/statistics/summaries/motorcycle-crash-data

(Victorian) Fatalities

Of the 282 people killed on Victoria's roads in 2012, 41 were riders and passengers of motorcycles, representing 15% of the road toll.
Motorcycles represent less than 4% of the number of registered vehicles in Victoria, and account for around 1% of vehicle kilometres travelled. Around 8% of Victorian licence holders hold a motorcycle licence.

Of the 41 motorcyclists and pillions killed in 2012:

93% were male
54% occurred in rural Victoria
54% were involved in crashes between the hours of 10am and 6pm and
42% of deaths occurred on roads sign posted at 100km/h or more
11% were not wearing helmets

41% were involved in single vehicle crashes,
22% were involved in head on or overtaking crashes and
24% were involved in crashes with another vehicle at an intersection

Motorbikes would appear to be more dangerous than wives. And more dangerous ...than most things I can think of. Even guns.

I was originally looking for the statistic where riders under the age of 26 have a 1:3 chance of ending up in hospital. Can't find. May be not true.

They are still undeniably cool though.





One stat I would like to see is the percentage of scooters (presumably they come under the "motorcycle" heading) involved in crashes and a breakdown of the type of injuries. I do like the European look of a young, attractive, mini-skirted and short sleeved lady on a scooter but they must surely figure quite highly in the crash stats -- along side the male version of that group.


I don't think scooters feature very high in the crash stats, certainly not in the fatalities. They are generally ridden in the inner city/suburban areas where crash speeds are lower, they still get banged up a bit but they are not a significant fatal statistic that I'm aware of. A not insignificant percentage of motorbike fatalities are single vehicle/bike crashes with no other vehicle involved, which then comes back to them riding beyond their ability or letting their ego cloud their judgement.

I waited until I was 30 until I got my bike license, I was just smart enough to know if I got it earlier I would have been an idiot and ended up dead

patsken
WA, 705 posts
3 Sep 2013 5:24PM
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Chris6791 said..

patsken said..

evlPanda said..

www.tac.vic.gov.au/road-safety/statistics/summaries/motorcycle-crash-data

(Victorian) Fatalities

Of the 282 people killed on Victoria's roads in 2012, 41 were riders and passengers of motorcycles, representing 15% of the road toll.
Motorcycles represent less than 4% of the number of registered vehicles in Victoria, and account for around 1% of vehicle kilometres travelled. Around 8% of Victorian licence holders hold a motorcycle licence.

Of the 41 motorcyclists and pillions killed in 2012:

93% were male
54% occurred in rural Victoria
54% were involved in crashes between the hours of 10am and 6pm and
42% of deaths occurred on roads sign posted at 100km/h or more
11% were not wearing helmets

41% were involved in single vehicle crashes,
22% were involved in head on or overtaking crashes and
24% were involved in crashes with another vehicle at an intersection

Motorbikes would appear to be more dangerous than wives. And more dangerous ...than most things I can think of. Even guns.

I was originally looking for the statistic where riders under the age of 26 have a 1:3 chance of ending up in hospital. Can't find. May be not true.

They are still undeniably cool though.





One stat I would like to see is the percentage of scooters (presumably they come under the "motorcycle" heading) involved in crashes and a breakdown of the type of injuries. I do like the European look of a young, attractive, mini-skirted and short sleeved lady on a scooter but they must surely figure quite highly in the crash stats -- along side the male version of that group.


I don't think scooters feature very high in the crash stats, certainly not in the fatalities. They are generally ridden in the inner city/suburban areas where crash speeds are lower, they still get banged up a bit but they are not a significant fatal statistic that I'm aware of. A not insignificant percentage of motorbike fatalities are single vehicle/bike crashes with no other vehicle involved, which then comes back to them riding beyond their ability or letting their ego cloud their judgement.

I waited until I was 30 until I got my bike license, I was just smart enough to know if I got it earlier I would have been an idiot and ended up dead




Yeh I reckon you're right with the fatalities stats but I get a fair bit of cringe feeling when I see obviously inexperienced and lightly clothed people on these scooters mixing it fairly willingly with commuter traffic. It's great that the fatality stat is low but I would guess that the stats that deal with non-fatals would have an ever increasing number of scooter riders represented...sadly.

youngbull
QLD, 825 posts
3 Sep 2013 8:40PM
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Would like to see the stats before Q-Ride.

bobajob
QLD, 1534 posts
7 Sep 2013 8:47PM
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A blokes gotta do what a blokes gotta do. My missus reccons kiting is dangerous. The fact is that I have been surfing, kiting and riding bikes long before I met her and will continue to do so.
If cost is of concern to justify getting a bike, just look at the real estate space you have in the bathroom for your stuff. I bet it is bugger all. Now think of all the crap your missus "needs" in the bathroom. That **** is not cheap.
A bike gives me that power rush you get from a sweetly powered kite or taking off on a solid wave. They'll soon get used to it when you come home alive a few times

PS. I have a pretty good insurance policy on my head though and so far haven't had to cash it in.
PPS. Have recently traded in the kite gear to get a sup ( tendonitis reasons ). The SUP is...boring quietly addictive. Ha Ha, now I have one less risk factor, time to upgrade the bike!

FlySurfer
NSW, 4453 posts
7 Sep 2013 10:22PM
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Most of Asia ride bikes... like 3 BILLION people.

My Mrs is cool with me riding, she even used to come riding with me (excellent pillion)... she's not OK with me paragliding.

TerryKiter... when riding you have to be confident; if your Mrs thinks you're going to die, you're setting yourself up for trouble.
Sh!t happens to all of us, and usually when you least expect it... but life is about experiences and the more you have the more you live. Any time you're going over 30kmh and you make a mistake it's going to REALLY hurt.
Riding bicycles on the road is INSANE... I've even been knock over while standing on the footpath with a bicycle.

Know the risk, enjoy the experience.

BTW: You're more likely to die from a Dr. than riding a motorcycle.


My last 3 bikes... no injuries.


(Just doing some mods) it's a Yamaha XT1200Z

bobajob
QLD, 1534 posts
7 Sep 2013 11:04PM
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^^^ Wow, wtf is the BM?

bobajob
QLD, 1534 posts
7 Sep 2013 11:26PM
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Porkyhorse said..

I had bikes for years before I met my now wife. She doesn't have a problem with me getting another one. The hard part was convincing her to sell hers after seeing the way she rode!


Now that's harsh. Although I agree, some people on a bike just look wrong and awkward, kinda wobbling all over, like a dose of confidence wouldn't hurt.

FlySurfer
NSW, 4453 posts
8 Sep 2013 12:02PM
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bobajob said..

^^^ Wow, wtf is the BM?


A mistake... but I do sometimes miss the heated grips and electronically adjustable suspension. Oh and the growl from the engine was intoxicating.

Porkyhorse
NSW, 23 posts
8 Sep 2013 8:35PM
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bobajob said..

Porkyhorse said..

I had bikes for years before I met my now wife. She doesn't have a problem with me getting another one. The hard part was convincing her to sell hers after seeing the way she rode!


Now that's harsh. Although I agree, some people on a bike just look wrong and awkward, kinda wobbling all over, like a dose of confidence wouldn't hurt.


Dose of confidence? It was the wheelies that had me nervous.

WA71
WA, 1382 posts
9 Sep 2013 4:24PM
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Skid said..
GreenPat said..



evlPanda said..



Of the 41 motorcyclists and pillions killed in 2012:



11% were not wearing helmets







4.5 people were not wearing helmets?
No. 4.51


.5 was off his head

cammd
QLD, 3700 posts
9 Sep 2013 8:40PM
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Better to ask for forgiveness than permission. A week of being in the dog house is a small price to pay.

Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
9 Sep 2013 9:49PM
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Scooters actually show surprisingly low on the accident stats for one simple reason. The riders are simply going from point A to point B. They're not trying to ride like a bat out of hell, they're not trying to wheelie, they're not trying to corner as fast as they can. Last time I checked I think they're were 1/5th of the accident rate of motorbikes.

I agree though on the cringing with scooter riders. No leathers, shorts, etc. I'd hate to see the result when they do come down.

This is my one



I'll replace it this year or next with this:



Chris6791
WA, 3271 posts
10 Sep 2013 12:27AM
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bobajob said..

^^^ Wow, wtf is the BM?


BMW K1300R isn't it? I love BMW's but that has a face only a mother could love.

FlySurfer
NSW, 4453 posts
10 Sep 2013 6:23PM
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I was going to go with a StreetFighter, but it's too damn small for me and sounds like it's falling apart... like most Ducati's... looks real nice though.
Before I got the Super Tenere, I tried the Ducati Multistrada... again too cramped for me.

BMW sucks ass! Stupid farkers can't even make a bike that rides straight; on the other hand the 4 Yamaha's have never disappointed me.

Chris6791 said..
BMW K1300R isn't it? I love BMW's but that has a face only a mother could love.


Or a Futurama fan...


It kind of reminded me of the Terminator 4 motorcycle...

Chris6791
WA, 3271 posts
10 Sep 2013 5:35PM
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^^^ The Multistrada was too cramped!?! Geez, are you about 8 feet tall? I can't even touch the ground with both feet when sitting on one.

echunda
VIC, 764 posts
11 Sep 2013 8:05AM
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Always had bikes and ride daily to the city and back. The better half minds a little but lets me persue my passion.

As everyones sharing bike pics, here's my current fleet:







and a 2010 R1 that i don't have a photo of right now.

cisco
QLD, 12321 posts
12 Sep 2013 1:06AM
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I used to ride one just like this and rip off Kwaka 9's and Fonda Whores.





PS: No wife at the time but a slick chick who loved the vibration from the seat.

Wineman
NSW, 1412 posts
12 Sep 2013 1:18PM
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cisco said..

I used to ride one just like this and rip off Kwaka 9's and Fonda Whores.





PS: No wife at the time but a slick chick who loved the vibration from the seat.




Yeah. The wobbly Yammy 650 - drum brakes all round.
I remember them coming over the top of the hill at Amaroo Pk in production races
Good memories

FlySurfer
NSW, 4453 posts
12 Sep 2013 2:14PM
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Chris6791 said..

^^^ The Multistrada was too cramped!?! Geez, are you about 8 feet tall? I can't even touch the ground with both feet when sitting on one.


Height is OK, but the seat is too far forward... so it makes me sit up too straight... I prefer to put more weight on my arms.
BTW: I can put both feet on the ground.

cammd
QLD, 3700 posts
12 Sep 2013 3:29PM
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Why go for copies like a multistrada or tenere when you can have the real thing





bobajob
QLD, 1534 posts
12 Sep 2013 7:41PM
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Porkyhorse said..

bobajob said..

Porkyhorse said..

I had bikes for years before I met my now wife. She doesn't have a problem with me getting another one. The hard part was convincing her to sell hers after seeing the way she rode!


Now that's harsh. Although I agree, some people on a bike just look wrong and awkward, kinda wobbling all over, like a dose of confidence wouldn't hurt.


Dose of confidence? It was the wheelies that had me nervous.


Wheelies? Sensational!

jn1
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12 Sep 2013 6:29PM
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hilly said..

Chicken strips !. Who would post a pic of a bike with chicken strips !. Now either take her out and ride it like you've got a pair, or get the scotch-brite onto it !

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
12 Sep 2013 8:45PM
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I've always had a dirt bike. Just ride with some caution, ride defensively, anticipate what others could do, and retain your buffer zones.
Open up the throttle a bit on the tracks when you have clear vision ahead.


This is my 450EXC, and it goes like a rocket!





The tracks around me, you usually have a clean view of what is coming up from ahead. There are only a handful of blind corners, but you can back off the throttle and listen for anything, and ride slow... It's all about staying as safe as you can... I've done over 20,000km on bikes, with no incidents.

busterwa
3777 posts
12 Sep 2013 9:36PM
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Its a calculated risk and you may not do anything wrong to be injured.
I certainly don't support your motorbike addiction Listen to your Misses or at least treat her to a life insurance package so she can look after you when your a vegetable.There`s a harsh reality to riding bikes and some of the consequences are. (without-out posting anything graphic)

Cervical (neck) injuries usually result in quadriplegia;
C1 to C4 injuries may require a ventilator for the person to breathe;
C5 injuries often result in shoulder and bicep control, but no control at the wrists or hands;
C6 injuries generally yield wrist control, but no hand function;
C7 and T1 injuries can straighten their arms but still may have dexterity problems with the hand and fingers;
Thoracic level injuries and below result in paraplegia, with the hands not affected;
T2 to T8 injuries have control of their hands, but poor trunk control as the result of lack of abdominal muscle control;
T9 to T12 injuries allow good trunk control and good abdominal muscle control. Sitting balance is very good;
Lumbar and Sacral injuries yield decreasing control of the hip flexors and legs.

Besides a loss of sensation or motor functioning, individuals with SCI also experience other changes. For example;

Incontinence of the bowel and bladder;
Erectile dysfunction;
Fertility may be affected in SCI men;
Wide and rapid fluctuations in body temperature;
Inability to sweat below the level of injury;
Low blood pressure;
Chronic pain.


Very high injuries (C1, C2, C3) can result in a loss of many involuntary functions. For example;

the ability to breathe (may require breathing aids such as mechanical ventilators or diaphragmatic pacemakers);
inability to regulate blood pressure effectively.













cisco
QLD, 12321 posts
13 Sep 2013 12:10AM
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Wineman said..

cisco said..

I used to ride one just like this and rip off Kwaka 9's and Fonda Whores.





PS: No wife at the time but a slick chick who loved the vibration from the seat.




Yeah. The wobbly Yammy 650 - drum brakes all round.
I remember them coming over the top of the hill at Amaroo Pk in production races
Good memories


Look closely at that one and you will see a strut tube with gusset plate going from the side rear tubes to the centre down tube. Mine had the instant death wobbles until I did the same modification.

I also fitted a TX front end with disc brake and Ceriani type fork legs and tossed the blinkers into the bushes. It stopped a whole lot better then. The best twin leading shoe drum brake ever was on the '69 Bonneville.

Other mods I did to it was lacing D.I.D alloy rims as fitted to Honda trail bikes of the day onto it, a 5" clip on headlight, 2 into 1 exhaust with megaphone on the starboard side which made the sweetest sound you ever heard, rear set pegs and a filtron air filter. I retained the vacuum operated carbies which gave you the the lightest throttle twist ever.

The engine was stock except for porting and polishing the cylinder head and had unbelievable low down grunt.

It was a rad rat, nowhere near as pretty as this one. Mechanical perfect with original black tank with white stripe and dent, tear in the seat and cut down rear mud guard. I gave it away to somebody who I thought would do something with it and never did.

The XS's have a cult following and there is a guy in NSW who has a shed full of them. However for me at 63 it is too painful to be riding two wheeled stallions.

cisco
QLD, 12321 posts
13 Sep 2013 12:28AM
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busterwa said..

There`s a harsh reality to riding bikes and some one of the consequences are is:-


You may find yourself in a 40 bed orthopedic ward after a car accident with a guy next to you who had a water skiing accident and the other 38 guys in the ward are in traction contraptions because of motor cycle accidents. And that was 35 years ago when bikes were not so powerful and traffic conditions less dangerous.

busterwa
3777 posts
12 Sep 2013 10:52PM
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I spent a bit of time in a trauma ward after the misses crashed her car. (spinal ward)
Lets say not a happy place. People are there for a reason. .Its horrific people in neck braces heads bolted to there back to re support and realign the spinal chord to repair the vertebra..
Bikes can be ridden safely but the odds of receiving a major trauma or a serious injury in the event of an accident increases significantly. So just be careful fellas.

WA71
WA, 1382 posts
13 Sep 2013 11:36AM
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busterwa said..
I spent a bit of time in a trauma ward after the misses crashed her car. (spinal ward)

Lets say not a happy place. People are there for a reason. .Its horrific people in neck braces heads bolted to there back to re support and realign the spinal chord to repair the vertebra..

Bikes can be ridden safely but the odds of receiving a major trauma or a serious injury in the event of an accident increases significantly. So just be careful fellas.


So ya better wrap your self in cotton wool then buster

jn1
2454 posts
13 Sep 2013 5:11PM
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Enough of this medical talk... and we've seen enough bikes. When are you all going to post pictures of your wives




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(hey, just kidding )

Here's a bike pic... last day of winter. Guess where it is in SA




DavidJohn
VIC, 17435 posts
13 Sep 2013 7:49PM
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Just do it..

DJ



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