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Created by GypsyDrifter > 9 months ago, 14 Jan 2011
GypsyDrifter
WA, 2371 posts
14 Jan 2011 9:55PM
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Ok now we can go to the moon...(new amazing!)
But I sure recon this girl is dam guttsy
They did some amazing trick in the old days
with little or no technology as such! (-:

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
15 Jan 2011 9:19AM
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She needs a GoPro.

Jared888
WA, 389 posts
15 Jan 2011 10:21AM
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Dont make them like they used to.




getfunky
WA, 4485 posts
15 Jan 2011 11:32AM
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They also didn't have worker's comp so if you fell of the wrecking ball (that ya boss told you to get on) well.. SPLATT! Your bad.

Next worker fodder please!



The ol' biplane stuff is awesome BTW.

GypsyDrifter
WA, 2371 posts
15 Jan 2011 2:37PM
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getfunky said...



The ol' biplane stuff is awesome BTW.


I love it! there use to be the old movie clips of girls dancing on the wings
Do you really think they new those planes were just stuck together with tape

GlenMorangie
WA, 88 posts
16 Jan 2011 7:38AM
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getfunky said...

They also didn't have worker's comp so if you fell of the wrecking ball (that ya boss told you to get on) well.. SPLATT! Your bad.

Next worker fodder please!


Regardless of this, only about 5 people died in the construction of the empire state building, plus one who jumped when he got fired.

pweedas
WA, 4642 posts
16 Jan 2011 9:59AM
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GypsyDrifter said...

getfunky said...



The ol' biplane stuff is awesome BTW.


I love it! there use to be the old movie clips of girls dancing on the wings
Do you really think they new those planes were just stuck together with tape


I hate to burst your bubble GD, (POP! oops sorry,) but the more I look at that clip, the more it looks like a studio fake.
Anyone who has ever put their head or hand out the window of an aeroplane will know how hard the slipstream blows on it.
Even at the low speed those old crates chug along, it is considerable.

There are a number of frames in that clip that show almost no effect from slipstream. e.g when she is sitting on the undecarriage cross bar, her leg is just dangling straight down. It should be blowing backwards.
When she is waling along the wing, her arms and hands are just waving about like she is walking around a shopping mall.
There are no scenes in the plane change series or wheel change series which show a normal slipstream effect.
Also, when she fits the wheel on the axle shaft, the wheel just drops straight down and into place.
Wheels have bearings with very small clearances on the axle shaft. They have to be wriggled on slowly with some effort. She just seems to ba able to throw that one on from a distance and it's all fixed. I don't think so!

The landing scene does look real however.

nebbian
WA, 6277 posts
16 Jan 2011 10:39AM
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pweedas said...

GypsyDrifter said...

getfunky said...



The ol' biplane stuff is awesome BTW.


I love it! there use to be the old movie clips of girls dancing on the wings
Do you really think they new those planes were just stuck together with tape


I hate to burst your bubble GD, (POP! oops sorry,) but the more I look at that clip, the more it looks like a studio fake.
Anyone who has ever put their head or hand out the window of an aeroplane will know how hard the slipstream blows on it.
Even at the low speed those old crates chug along, it is considerable.

There are a number of frames in that clip that show almost no effect from slipstream. e.g when she is sitting on the undecarriage cross bar, her leg is just dangling straight down. It should be blowing backwards.
When she is waling along the wing, her arms and hands are just waving about like she is walking around a shopping mall.
There are no scenes in the plane change series or wheel change series which show a normal slipstream effect.
Also, when she fits the wheel on the axle shaft, the wheel just drops straight down and into place.
Wheels have bearings with very small clearances on the axle shaft. They have to be wriggled on slowly with some effort. She just seems to ba able to throw that one on from a distance and it's all fixed. I don't think so!

The landing scene does look real however.




Interesting also that when she goes from one wingtip to the other plane's wingtip, there is no roll on either plane. I'd expect the old plane's wingtip to shoot upwards, and the new one's wingtip to drop a fair bit before the pilots could react.

Those pilots must have been pretty good back then

Agreed about the landing scene

CJW
NSW, 1718 posts
16 Jan 2011 2:56PM
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Not sure if anyone watched 'Big Bigger Biggest' last night but it was on the Gotthard Base Tunnel, a 57km long train tunnel through the Swiss Alps. As Engineer myself stuff like this just makes me go "holy s!@#", they started digging in 1996 and are still digging(some tunnels completed); it won't open till 2017. The man power, logistics, engineering hurdles etc they had to overcome to build this thing are straight up astounding!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotthard_Base_Tunnel

Ian K
WA, 4048 posts
16 Jan 2011 12:18PM
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Always impressed by how they can tunnel from both ends and be accurate to within centimeters when they meet up. They said something about drilling holes from above and using laser guidance?

CJW
NSW, 1718 posts
16 Jan 2011 4:36PM
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Ian K said...

Always impressed by how they can tunnel from both ends and be accurate to within centimeters when they meet up. They said something about drilling holes from above and using laser guidance?


Yeah these days all those machines are equipped with automated theodolites and are driven by computer basically. Apparently the Gotthard tunnel was 2cm out of alignment with the two ends of the West tunnel joined up, pretty damn good.

stribo
QLD, 1628 posts
16 Jan 2011 6:22PM
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pweedas said...

GypsyDrifter said...

getfunky said...



The ol' biplane stuff is awesome BTW.


I love it! there use to be the old movie clips of girls dancing on the wings
Do you really think they new those planes were just stuck together with tape


I hate to burst your bubble GD, (POP! oops sorry,) but the more I look at that clip, the more it looks like a studio fake.
Anyone who has ever put their head or hand out the window of an aeroplane will know how hard the slipstream blows on it.
Even at the low speed those old crates chug along, it is considerable.

There are a number of frames in that clip that show almost no effect from slipstream. e.g when she is sitting on the undecarriage cross bar, her leg is just dangling straight down. It should be blowing backwards.
When she is waling along the wing, her arms and hands are just waving about like she is walking around a shopping mall.
There are no scenes in the plane change series or wheel change series which show a normal slipstream effect.
Also, when she fits the wheel on the axle shaft, the wheel just drops straight down and into place.
Wheels have bearings with very small clearances on the axle shaft. They have to be wriggled on slowly with some effort. She just seems to ba able to throw that one on from a distance and it's all fixed. I don't think so!

The landing scene does look real however.



That Aircraft is a Curtiss Jenny (JN4-D) It has a cruise speed of 60mph and a top speed of 76mph.Its stall or landing speed was about 40mph. So it could easily chug away at about 45mph and hold altitude. Thats only about 60K's.Thats not going to be to much wind to blow you off the wing. I think i've car surfed faster than that in my younger much more silly (stupid?) days
So Pweeds the vid may be a fake or it may not be. But at that speed it is certainly possible.Also watching the aircraft react to the transfer seems very realistic.I don't think they could create that effect in a studio in the 1920's.
So i'm swaying towards it being not fake.
Hard core chick that one.



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