I'm not a smoker, but I assume the plain packets will be removable. Do the laws allow them to wrap their normal branded packets inside plain packets?
I haven't been following this...
A normal branded packet without the horror photos, and wrapped inside a plain packet, is potentially a better outcome than the current horror photos on packets! 
But as I said, I'm not sure what they will be allowed to do...
What about Cartons at Duty Free Australia Ports? Will they be wrapped up? International travelers might get a shock!
Plain Packets - they must be allowed to to print something on them, in a certain size/style text/font. The vendor and customer need to know what they selling and buying! Like "Marlboro Super Light" still needs to be printed... I'm guessing... How else do you control the stock...
I'm half curious as to what the results will be... the packaging... and if it makes a difference...
I am fully pro this new horror packages but I am afraid that convinced smokers will find that way to circumnavigate obstacle as usual ( and propel business for new gadgets at same time) :
- printed stickers that could be applied immediately after cigarette purchase to minimize the shock to few seconds only
- old good cigarette case to transfer instantly whole content
our counter action could be then:
-request to print something directly on the each cigarette - for example - earth worms pattern , poo imitation, yellow water marks suggesting that cig was soak with urine.
-limiting available space for smokers by reversing to "forbidden everything that is not allowed" - means that generally all space is non smoking area beside specially dedicated enclosure or gated smoking plot
I wish one day nice new label will be invented and printed on our favourite alcoholic drinks.
Cirrotic liver picture - on Jonny Walker label goes very nicely with Pulmonary cancer on Marlboro
OK. As a non-smoker I am getting pretty sick and tired of all this advertising. Why do I have to look at this grotesque stuff? I don't smoke.
One way to discourage smoking would be to serve customers who go to the service desk at a supermarket before serving people buying cigarettes on the other side.
Most of the time you go to the service desk you wait in a queue for your turn. On the other side a customer rocks up to buy cigarettes and they are served straight away.
How much is a packet of cigarettes now? I used to smoke a bit when they were about $6 for a packet of 25s I think. Smoked one or two cigarettes a day so a packet lasted a while. Gave up over ten years ago. The cost of cigarettes would be enough to turn me off it now.
A liberal view of smoking would be to allow people to smoke if that is what they choose to do. However if it infringes upon the life of others then others should be compensated for it.
Kiteboy,
Yep, rollies are true tobacco.
Cigarettes are cigarette things with some imitation tobacco 'stuff' stuffed inside...
Yeah I smoked rollies too. Usually Champion Ruby but sometimes Whiteox. I think they cost about $12 or $14 a packet. Much better than the tailor mades but I finished off smoking winnie blues.
Ppl have the right to choose, sure. As long as it doesn't interfere in any way with non smokers. I tend to think the campaign is working. And kudos to those working at it. Allow ppl the right to choose to smoke, those who do won't care what they r packaged in. Why would they care? But at the same time the financial cost associated in the long term should be Bourne by the smoker.
I smoke, and it makes me feel AWESOME.
I've been smoking since I was 10.
The only bad things to ever happen to me have been sporting accidents and visiting Drs. (I think they've all been gay terrorists)... maybe eating too much sugar has been bad for me too.
Plain packaging... ahh fark, I only bought my smokes for those cool boxes. I would give them out to little kids to play with, baby's love sucking on them too.
Stacking smoke boxes was so cool.
I think we need to put that Juliar in plain packaging... That massive nose and orange head are way too attention grabbing.
Having given up smoking nearly 10 years ago I asked a guy in a shop the other day how much a packet of ciggies was. Jaysus, a pack of 40's was anywhere between $26 and over $35 depending on brand!!!!!!!!!!!
No wonder they hide them behind big white covers. So if they have plain packaging or grose images whats the difference? You cant see the bloody packets anyway.
I know its when the smokers buy them that you see the packaging but if they are hidden it seems to be a deterrent. Like placing lollies and choccies at the cash register, impulse buying or clever marketing.
Ive asked my daughter and her friends about this and they all say that teenage smokers are in the minority these days.
The question is if this doesn't kill smoking (which it wont), then what will they think of next???
How far will they go..
Will beer be next?
The conservative cost of smoking to health services in Australia is $682 million. 15% of all deaths, that is 19,000 a year, are smoking related. Half of all tobacco users will die prematurely.
Ban Commercial sales of tobacco products altogether. The government makes the laws so they can legislate against tobacco companies seeking compensation. I gave up smoking ten years ago. Banning sales would help those like my wife who lack the will power to give up themselves. The Tobacco Companies sell poison and death. Why should this be legal? Why should they receive compensation for lost profits?
They should be prosecuted for selling us poison.
Smokers [or really their addiction] talks about freedom of choice but how many of you can choose not to have that next cigarette? None. What self delusional addicts. Smokers are such losers.
Prohibition may work in some ways but will fail to completely eliminate smoking. Prohibition doesn't stop people smoking marajuana or taking other drugs if they want to. Chop chop tobacco is an issue already and the state is only concerned about lost revenue.
The rising cost of tobacco is possibly the best way to discourage smoking. If a packet of cigarettes is well over $20 smokers have two reasons to give up, better health and better finances.
Smoking definately is less popular than what it was in Australia so current measures are working.
I've been travelling along on the bike behind car drivers that can see you and still flick their butts out the window, couldn't give a toss.(Bad Pun) Even had to put my hand up and duck my head once to avoid it going straight in the visor and getting stuck in my helmet.
Smoking ciggies is crap.
Plain packeging be buggered, should be in big red letters "LOSER"
Maybe you should wear pants when on your bike...
y'know...
So as you don't get cigarette butts stuck in your helmet
I AM A SMOKER; It is a Filthy, Dirty, Disgusting, Anti Social Habit but I am Hooked - Get Over It. I don't smoke inside ANY building and even outside isolate myself from non smokers before lighting up. I too get seriously P**sed Off with Morons that flick butts from cars. I am 100% behind any scheme aimed at stopping fools like me taking up the habit, But have we gone far enough, how about plain packaging for alcohol with graphic images of serious alcohol related road smashes??????
Rupert, that's probably the future.
A quick google, and this pops up.
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4232703.stm
