Salmon Fish farms

still looking for links to entire film, if anyone finds them could they please post them

Awww fek!

I LOVE salmon, and yes I know the affordable stuff in the fishmongers is farmed (you can taste the diff) but fek me it is still yummy and I don't need to rip orf a convenience store to buy a few fillets.

Can we have a good news post some day soon?

the chinese love flied lice

The salmon and trout industry is almost totally confined to the sea nowadays. There are a few exceptions where trout are grown in fresh water but most farms have been closed owing to the amount of pollution they create.

Growing the fish on in the sea makes a huge amount of sense financially as seawater varies little in temperature and oxygen content. Unfortunately their impact on the aquatic environment is not reduced, just spread about. Salmonids grow very fast but require a diet that exceeds 55% protein. This can only be provided by using trawled catch, mainly herring and krill which give a conversion ratio of up to 1:1.1.

The industry is huge.Largest of all is the feed suppliers, and any attempt to reduce their impact by regulation is backed by big dollars.

As nice as they are to eat I now will not partake. The only trout I eat comes out of a river on the end of a lure. The sulphonamides and other drugs used to combat disease in highly stressed enclosures is frightening.

Suzuki Rocks! I grew up watching his telly show back home.

It's been a well know fact since they started farming fish that it was bad for the enviroment.

Still makes be laugh when I tell people they feed farmed salmon dye to make the meat pink/orange/red.

Not to mention that chicken is bleached and steak is coloured to look more appealing/healthy. WTF are we doing to ourselves in order to make foods appear more healthy??

Seriously, you shouldn't feed your cat fish all the time. We started feeding our cat (Moppet) tuna and then we realised how bad it was for cats.

Suzuki certainly got his audience uncomfortable about what they had just eaten.

Moppet? are you kidding? Is that cos hes not house trained (Mop it).
A better name for a cat is Clubit

Anybody know if 'Tasmanian Ocean Trout' is bad news? Same for Tasmanian Salmon?

I wouldn't be betting that the Innaloo fish markets are strictly genuine with their Tasmanian labelling but you live in hope I spose.

Ocean Trout are much better and surprisingly more sustainable than salmon. Below is a great answer to a similar question plus a great explanation of the chemicals used to colour the salmon.....enjoy your meals......

Tasmanian Ocean Trout has a distinctive rosy pink/orange flesh and high omega 6 content which makes them an ideal eating fish. The flavour is more subtle and less salty than Atlantic or farmed salmon, and according to many chefs, much better tasting.

while...

Salmon is a popular food. Consuming salmon is considered to be reasonably healthy due to the fish's high protein, high Omega-3 fatty acids, and high vitamin D[5] content. Salmon is also a source of cholesterol, ranging 23–214 mg/100g depending on the species.[6] According to reports in the journal Science, however, farmed salmon may contain high levels of dioxins. PCB (polychlorinated biphenyl) levels may be up to eight times higher in farmed salmon than in wild salmon. Omega-3 content may also be lower than in wild caught individuals, and in a different proportion to what is found naturally. Omega 3 comes in three types, ALA, DHA and EPA; wild salmon has traditionally been an important source of DHA and EPA, which are important for brain function and structure, among other things. This means that if the farmed salmon is fed on a meal which is partially grain then the amount of Omega 3 it contains will be present as ALA (alpha-linolenic acid). The body can itself convert ALA Omega 3 into DHA and EPA, but at a very inefficient rate (2–15%). Nonetheless, according to a 2006 study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, the benefits of eating even farmed salmon still outweigh any risks imposed by contaminants [1]. Type of Omega 3 present may not be a factor for other important health functions. A simple rule of thumb is that the vast majority of Atlantic salmon available on the world market are farmed (greater than 99%), whereas the majority of Pacific salmon are wild-caught (greater than 80%). Farmed salmon outnumber wild salmon 85 to 1.[7]


Raw salmon sashimiSalmon flesh is generally orange to red in colour, although there are some examples of white fleshed wild salmon. The natural colour of salmon results from carotenoid pigments, largely astaxanthin (E161j), in the flesh. Wild salmon get these carotenoids from eating krill and other tiny shellfish. Because consumers have shown a reluctance to purchase white fleshed salmon, astaxanthin, and very minutely canthaxanthin (E161g)), are added as artificial colorants to the feed of farmed salmon because prepared diets do not naturally contain these pigments. In most cases the astaxanthin is made chemically; alternatively it is extracted from shrimp flour. Another possibility is the use of dried red yeast, which provides the same pigment. However, synthetic mixtures are the least expensive option. Astaxanthin is a potent antioxidant that stimulates the development of healthy fish nervous systems and that enhances the fish's fertility and growth rate. Research has revealed canthaxanthin may have negative effects on the human eye, accumulating in the retina at high levels of consumption. Today the concentration of carotenoids (mainly canthaxanthin and astaxanthin) exceeds 8 mg/kg of flesh and all fish producers try to reach a level that represents a value of 16 on the "Roche Color Card", a colour card used to show how pink the fish will appear at specific doses. This scale is specific for measuring the pink colour due to astaxanthin and is not for the orange hue obtained with canthaxanthin. The development of processing and storage operations, which can be detrimental on canthaxanthin flesh concentration, has led to an increased quantity of pigments added to the diet to compensate for the degrading effects of the processing. In wild fish, carotenoid levels of up to 20–25 mg are present, but levels of canthaxanthin are, in contrast, minor.

Canned salmon in the U.S. is usually wild Pacific catch, though some farmed salmon is available in canned form. Smoked salmon is another popular preparation method, and can either be hot or cold smoked. Lox can refer either to cold smoked salmon or to salmon cured in a brine solution (also called gravlax). Traditional canned salmon includes some skin (which is harmless) and bone (which adds calcium). Skinless and boneless canned salmon is also available.

Raw salmon flesh may contain Anisakis nematodes, marine parasites that cause Anisakiasis. Before the availability of refrigeration, the Japanese did not consume raw salmon. Salmon and salmon roe have only recently come into use in making sashimi (raw fish) and sushi.

japie....The sulphonamides and other drugs used to combat disease in highly stressed enclosures is frightening.

after reading this line would only eat the stuff if i caught it myself.

being a veggie has it's advantages.

myusernam......vegitarian and a cat lover who feeds his cat salmon
keep it in the cupboard

nothing like a subway footlong vegetarian with extra olives + chillies on wholemeal bread of course.

nothing can possibly beat that.

Today's food industry relies heavily on chemical solutions. The big drawback with fresh food is that it does not behave but goes off over time and time is what the logistics systems need. So we use chemicals.

I worked for Edgells Birds Eye, now Simplot in Bathurst. Believe it or not this is the largest fish processor in the country, or it was. Most of the raw material comes from Chile and New Zealand in the form of neatly frozen 7.5 kilo blocks packed five in a carton. The blocks are put through a series of slicers producing an oblong domino which is finally stamped into a fillet shape and then crumbed.

The slicer operator had responsibility to remove product with contaminants, the most frequent of which were large balls of undiluted preservative. So if you think that freezing is how they keep it fresh you need another think.

And as for animals bred in intensive systems try to imagine how long it would be before the doctor and his bag of chemicals was called in to keep us healthy if we were expected to live in the same conditions.

It is not a conspiracy either! Just straight forward sound economics.

CATS should be Eradicated.. there is no room in this world for stinkin hairy cats!!

the doctor......diet and modern medicine are the two biggest killers in western civilisation

will second that.