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Forums > General Discussion   Shooting the breeze...

Shark shields Vs ESDS

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Created by Mr. No-one > 9 months ago, 27 Mar 2013
Mr. No-one
WA, 921 posts
27 Mar 2013 7:34PM
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Anyone know much about these units, wouldn't mind knowing who uses them, which one, while doing what and what you think of it.
I thought I'd never buy one until having a close encounter with an over friendly 3.5mt Mako recently while kayak fishing. Seen plenty while sailing, diving and quite a few lately yakfishing and think it's time to be a wuss but which one, the shark shield or the new ESDS?
Would you ever consider using one, this is what changed my mind-

rockmagnet
QLD, 1458 posts
27 Mar 2013 9:58PM
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Not much good against Mako's apparently. My son was diving and had a Mako encounter of the close kind and found out that waving your shark shield in it's face didn't bother it. Got a bit cranky when he poked it with his spear too.

sn
WA, 2775 posts
27 Mar 2013 8:08PM
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I'm only going to recommend 2 things.

a bigger boat and a smokey

I dont think I could trust electrical theory to prevent me from becoming shark poo.

stephen

Mr. No-one
WA, 921 posts
27 Mar 2013 8:18PM
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That was unexpected, was hoping to hear he took off like a bat out of hell, wonder how many species it does work on. Glad your son was OK, physically anyway. I get the impression that Makos are very stubborn, this one was a bit like a cat rubbing against a scratching pole.

lillianv
1 posts
29 Mar 2013 2:21AM
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You might find this interesting: ww1.modernkayakfishing.com

Mr. No-one
WA, 921 posts
29 Mar 2013 10:44PM
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Cheers, that was a good comparison, makes the ESDS look like a lucky charm, it's cheaper,ADR in the US and can't replace the battery where the Aussie Shark Shield can.
Bought the SS Freedom 7 today to use on the yak and some diving, piece of mind.
Oh, and just for a laugh made the front page of our community paper today.

Mackerel
WA, 313 posts
29 Mar 2013 10:55PM
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Man that would be pretty freaky. I reckon Mako's are like the ADD, wired out on meth, overly aggressive young brothers of whites. If the got as big as whites they would be a seriously scary shark.

Awesome vid mate, glad you're ok.

I wouldn't trust the ESDS either, gotta get a shark shield.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
30 Mar 2013 5:49PM
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He wasnt agressive, its the one you dont see that rams your yak at speed that you worry about.

We do a lot of kayak fishing offshore, and for jews at night out of kayaks.
Most nights you get a shark or 2 come and give you a bump and circle around sussing you out.
It definetly wakes you up when night fishing, they seem to bump you when your daydreaming and half asleep and it scares the poo out of you.
It is usually the same shark too, you see different markings/chunks missing in fins etc. We have given one a name now and is a bit dissapointing if he dosent come and play bumper cars with us at night.

We have found that nudging them with your paddle dosent scare them but makes them more keen and swimming faster. Better off just letting them give your kayak a taste test by tapping their nose against your yak, then they seem to realise its not tastie and swim away.

When you look at all the crew that do night dives and things like that and dont get eaten, I wouldnt worry too much.
Hope it dosent stop you yak fishing, its a good healthy sport...... If you dont get eaten

Mr. No-one
WA, 921 posts
30 Mar 2013 4:03PM
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Jesus Loto, how are we supposed to hang it on each other when your all cool and awesome now
It was just a matter of time before something big got nosy, last month played a Tiger nearly 2 hours ,hooked up 5 Hammerheads and a Bronzy and scored a Spanish which was the target fish each time. Now I've got the SS keen to get back out, heard they're handy for landing your fish so it doesn't get taken.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
30 Mar 2013 7:25PM
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Windsurfing sux Is that better

I got my first yak mackeral this week,, only a spottie but was pretty stoked to pop my mackeral cherry.

Yeah, nothing worse than getting a decent fish , to only lose it in the last few minutes to a toothie critter. I have had a few bodyless fish boarded

I tried to board a hammerhead a few weeks back to reclaim my lure (after loseing 4 lures to them) and lost my grip/control over it. It was only 1.5m long, but its not a good feeling have a shark on board bashing and snapping out of control.
I now let them keep my lure to show off to the other sharks as some sort of cool shark bling.

Oh,,,,and,,,,,,,windsurfing suxlol

Here is a vid of my first Mack, only a little spottie, but its a start.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
31 Mar 2013 12:13AM
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I gave you a green thumb Mr No One
I know,,,, Im scared too.

Mr. No-one
WA, 921 posts
1 Apr 2013 12:58AM
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Windsurfing? What happened to pole dancing, your slipping Loto, and kites are dumb.
Ok, that vid wasn't totally disgusting, congrats on the Mack, big a55 one for a Spotty and nice gaffing. Love the sound of reels in the morning, Macks do it best.

Darkspi
SA, 171 posts
1 Apr 2013 6:07PM
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had a mako chase the macki we had on lure over the side of the boat one time after a short discussion ( involving axe handle over the nose )we agreed to allow the mako to keep his half of the macki if he left the boat. everyone left the scene needing some new undies and a half a macki for the boat

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
19 Apr 2013 10:14PM
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Mr. No-One, have now upgraded my spottie to a spanish....WOOOOHOOOOOO.

surfingboye
NSW, 2707 posts
19 Apr 2013 11:13PM
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impressive fish mateee.

GypsyDrifter
WA, 2371 posts
19 Apr 2013 11:14PM
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lotofwind said...
Mr. No-One, have now upgraded my spottie to a spanish....WOOOOHOOOOOO.



Would not want that to phaf around while pulling it in...
Impressive fishing!!!!

Mr. No-one
WA, 921 posts
20 Apr 2013 11:10AM
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lotofwind said...
Mr. No-One, have now upgraded my spottie to a spanish....WOOOOHOOOOOO.

Oh hell yeah!
Looked like the perfect day for the perfect result, how cool is it when you catch your target species. Congrats on the Mackie you smelly tea bagger How about a trip report, would love to hear all the details, especially how you hooked him, bait or lure, size and weight.
Did you paddle past the boaties on the way back in to show off, I know I did. This was mine that my fishing buddy (Duncan) took. Got him with a 30cm Tailor trolled low and slow in the same spot as the Mako.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
20 Apr 2013 9:17PM
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^^^^^Nice catch,,well played.
Mine weighed in at 15kg.
I usually use live bait like you, tailor, bonito, slimey mackerel, pike etc.
But some days livies are hard to find so I caught this one on a dead garfish rigged with a chin guard to swim it straight and keep it just under the surface, trolled around in 20m of water on the edge of shallower reefs where bait fish hang around.

Just had some spanish steaks for dinner,,,,,damn tasty.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
23 Apr 2013 8:28PM
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Hey Mr No-one,,,, instead of being chased by sharks,,,,,,,,,
Why not chase them instead.

Check out Milkeys vid fishing for toothies in NZ. Keep watching the vid, bit slow to start with but wait till you see the shark jumping at about 3:45min.....WOW

beastsurf
WA, 902 posts
23 Apr 2013 10:34PM
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I use both products when surfing. The ESDS is a lot more versitile and is easy to swap from board to board. The esds is better for the kids. I don't trust the esds as much as the shark shield. The esds is a pain in the arse to recharge. There is a bolt that needs to be removed so the charger can be plugged in. If the bolt is not secure and water enters the unit kiss your $460 goodbye. I bought three esds units one for each of the kids and one for me. I have had to replace three so so far. They just stop and cant be recharged. The esds just seems to have been thrown together a bit and would benefit from a few design changes. I nearly lost the shark shield of the back of the board once this product could be altered a bit ie two bolts to secure it to the frame.

Hope it helps.

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
24 Apr 2013 11:53AM
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It's great to see both teabaggers & poleys finding common ground!

lotofwind & Mr No-one...great fishing, on both accounts. Fishing from a kayak for a game species would be sensational!

Re; sharks, a local was tipped out of his yak a few years ago & had to 'fend' off a white for 15 mins after it actually bit the nose of his yak, tipping him out. Imo, if it wante to eat him, it had 15mins to easily do so, but I'd put it down to curiosity (note - I would've shat!).

I've got both mako & white tooth marks on my boat prop and agree that hitting them doesn't deter them, instead they seem to be more curious. Sharks are at the top of their food-chain & don't know fear imo, this doesn't make them savage killers, although I don't want to be around a hungry/excited one - shark sheild or not.

Mr. No-one
WA, 921 posts
25 Apr 2013 12:01AM
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Cheers Sailhack, on your first point I guess anything is possible now.
I agree with the curiosity of sharks to a degree, but put yourself in their shoes (not that they wear shoes). They can smell a feed and know where it's comming from, like you say I don't think they're afraid of much so may mouth it as if it were a floating carcass, problem with a kayak is if he does it's going to take on water and sink. Seen a lot of footage of sharks chewing on props so glad he never showed those pearly whites.
That's very disappointing with the anklet fails Beast, not a cheap exercise x 3, I'll stick with the SS for now.



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