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Skin Cancer and Melanoma

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Created by jetstream > 9 months ago, 13 Dec 2010
jetstream
WA, 57 posts
13 Dec 2010 12:37AM
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Skin Cancer and how it can affect you.

Melanoma's are more likely to kill your average water-man or water-woman than the extreme sport they partake in, white pointers or taking that fatal wipeout.

Australians have a very high rate of skin cancer, something like 1 in 14 Males and 1 in 24 Females of the population will get a melanoma in their lifetime (to 85).

Melanoma's are deadly if not treated correctly. One of the worst things that can happen is late discovery where it simply becomes too late. They can be small and look almost benign to the average person. They can appear anywhere from the crack of your ass to the eye and everywhere in between. They have many shapes and sizes and not all are that obvious.

I urge all those that visit Seabreeze to read the following Seabreeze Kitesurf Article written by some who have had the shock of discovering melanoma.

www.seabreeze.com.au/Articles/Kitesurfing/Skin-Cancer-Melanoma_4176560.aspx

Then want more info have a browse through:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanoma

www.cancer.org.au/about-cancer/types-of-cancer/skin-cancer/melanoma.html

I have had a Melanoma and many other lesser skin cancers removed. My younger brother died from Melanoma this year after a life of surfing.
Watching him go through the cancers progression from melanoma to it spreading to his bones, lungs, liver and brain and finally causing his death.
It is a horrible disease and it certainly is not a nice way to die.

But it is very preventable and can be treated well if caught early.

Always cover up, wear sunscreen, hat and use sunglasses. Avoid the most severe UV part of the day.

Get a regular check from your GP and if there is ANYTHING at all suspicious get a referral to a dermatologist. These doctors usually have a waiting list of sometimes many months. If you suspect Melanoma time can be of the essence for your ultimate survival.
If you have spent years surfing, kiting, windsurfing, boating, fishing, baking unprotected in the sun or you have light caucasian skin you need to be very weary about this disease.

I just hope this message gets though particularly to some of the young crew out there first staring out kiting, surfing, sailing. This is the forgotten time in the sun that can later come back to haunt you, like it did me.

Only this year another guy I knew died from getting one on his retina, and he was a doctor. This disease does not discriminate.

Sunglasses are a must particularly while sailing into the sun every afternoon here in the West.
I continually read about the problems encountered with kite/sail boarders and sunglasses.
My solution to this is simple and CHEAP (but not all that fashionable). Go to the local hardware store, buy a pair of cheap UV resistant safety glasses (sunnies). Make sure they are one piece wrap around with fixed nose/lenses and rust resistant plastic hinge. Coat them with Rainex Windscreen treatment, (wipe off quickly before it wrecks plastic). Use silicon tubing on sides (hobby shop supply) so they don't slip off after a face plant.You should be able to do all this for $10. Keep a couple in your sail bag.Will give clear vision that beads the water spray off and saves your eyes from sunburn and salt spray. (Just keep the sunburn cream of them).

These things even work reasonably well even in the worst of surfing wipeouts, just tie them on to your wetsuit zip cord if you cant afford to loose them.

Hope this gets a few of you out there to check your skin and some of your friends as well. Its the spots that you can't see that can be the problem.










Wineman
NSW, 1412 posts
19 Dec 2010 1:14PM
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Top advice.

Do not compromise.
We are not indestructible.

Cassa
WA, 1305 posts
19 Dec 2010 12:10PM
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Went for my yearly check up last week ,
all good except for some little shyte on my arms, he burnt that off with his little squirter.
Asked about my shift to exmouth in a few months, and to my surprise was told that we will be much safer up there in the sun with no sunscreen (though he didnt recommend not using sunscreen) than we will down here in Perth WITH sunsrceen ON , I thought this was rather scary news!
cover up boys!!!

gs12
WA, 396 posts
19 Dec 2010 1:19PM
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got one cut out earlier this year, I hope that's the last one, got me s**t scared to be honest, luckily I got it in time (they call it stage 0) and it didn't go anywhere. now I apply lot more sunscreen, using long arm rashie & helmet (going to buy full length summer wet suit) and I avoid being outside (including sailing) in the middle of the day & early afternoon.

On advice from a doctor few years ago, I took a picture of suspicious looking mole at regular intervals + annual checks organized by work. This year I went to skin clinic, they checked me out, said all was good, take care & come back in 6 months.
While I was almost on my way out I showed them the pics I took in the past so they had one more look. Errr, it got bigger they say, let's take it out just to be sure. They did and few days later I got a call to come back have some more taken out Luckily it was very early stages...

When I thought about it afterwards, I realized they wouldn't have picked it up if I hadn't showed them the pics

I'm being treated by a dermatologist instead now, had full body pics taken and I'm going for check ups every 3 months..

I can't emphasize enough how important it is to get this checked regularly & taken out early!

jetstream
WA, 57 posts
26 Dec 2010 10:17AM
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Having had many suspicious spots either cut out or burnt off I've come to the conclusion that it won't be the last either. So every year I religiously go see my Doc for the annual "Slice and Dice".
Skin cancers can be so dangerous if left that my own view is "when in doubt get it cut out". You have got to get it done by an appropriate doctor and have whatever cutout sent to a Pathology LAb. for analysis because if it is bad they usually go back in there for some more flesh.



gs12 said...

got one cut out earlier this year, I hope that's the last one, got me s**t scared to be honest, luckily I got it in time (they call it stage 0) and it didn't go anywhere. now I apply lot more sunscreen, using long arm rashie & helmet (going to buy full length summer wet suit) and I avoid being outside (including sailing) in the middle of the day & early afternoon.

On advice from a doctor few years ago, I took a picture of suspicious looking mole at regular intervals + annual checks organized by work. This year I went to skin clinic, they checked me out, said all was good, take care & come back in 6 months.
While I was almost on my way out I showed them the pics I took in the past so they had one more look. Errr, it got bigger they say, let's take it out just to be sure. They did and few days later I got a call to come back have some more taken out Luckily it was very early stages...

When I thought about it afterwards, I realized they wouldn't have picked it up if I hadn't showed them the pics

I'm being treated by a dermatologist instead now, had full body pics taken and I'm going for check ups every 3 months..

I can't emphasize enough how important it is to get this checked regularly & taken out early!


GypsyDrifter
WA, 2371 posts
26 Dec 2010 10:49AM
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Cassa said...

Went for my yearly check up last week ,
all good except for some little shyte on my arms, he burnt that off with his little squirter.
Asked about my shift to exmouth in a few months, and to my surprise was told that we will be much safer up there in the sun with no sunscreen (though he didnt recommend not using sunscreen) than we will down here in Perth WITH sunsrceen ON , I thought this was rather scary news!
cover up boys!!!


When I lived in Broome Cassa...(mind you that is a few years back now)
I always had on a thin layer of clothing in the sun...

but if under a bit of shade from trees (as I worked in a plant nursery) I would have on a singlet top. never had on sunscreen but never got burnt up there either...

I thought but really don't know, it had something to do with the positioning of the hole in the ozone layer

oliver
3952 posts
26 Dec 2010 2:30PM
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Cassa said...

Went for my yearly check up last week ,
all good except for some little shyte on my arms, he burnt that off with his little squirter.
Asked about my shift to exmouth in a few months, and to my surprise was told that we will be much safer up there in the sun with no sunscreen (though he didnt recommend not using sunscreen) than we will down here in Perth WITH sunsrceen ON , I thought this was rather scary news!
cover up boys!!!


Just thought this was interesting. Did the doc mention why? Is it to do with the ozone hole or something else.

I live in Melbourne and when the sun is out, even in Spring and Autumn it has a real bite to it.

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
26 Dec 2010 2:48PM
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I went to the skin specialist a few weeks back.I have a mole on the back of my leg and another on my back which I always keep a eye on.

I could not believe it when she told me the one in between my toes had to go.

ka43
NSW, 3065 posts
26 Dec 2010 7:49PM
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Not so surprising, last checkup I was sure I would get zapped all over melon and arms etc but doc found 2 suss ones on my chest which has been covered by a rashie for years. One was fine but other bad but he got it all. Couldve been waiting to strike from 30 years ago.
Just get checked and dont do the old Oz "she'll be right"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jedibrad
NSW, 527 posts
26 Dec 2010 8:33PM
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yeah, i don't get it i can surf for weeks in hawaii then come back to sydney and get burnt....grrr

SeaMonsta
QLD, 2 posts
26 Dec 2010 11:15PM
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check this out I tried the natural way to get rid of cancer and it worked fine for me www.doctorsaredangerous.com

Mr. No-one
WA, 921 posts
27 Dec 2010 12:27AM
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oliver said...

Cassa said...

Went for my yearly check up last week ,
all good except for some little shyte on my arms, he burnt that off with his little squirter.
Asked about my shift to exmouth in a few months, and to my surprise was told that we will be much safer up there in the sun with no sunscreen (though he didnt recommend not using sunscreen) than we will down here in Perth WITH sunsrceen ON , I thought this was rather scary news!
cover up boys!!!


Just thought this was interesting. Did the doc mention why? Is it to do with the ozone hole or something else.

I live in Melbourne and when the sun is out, even in Spring and Autumn it has a real bite to it.


I'm definitely no expert but I believe due to centrical forces from the Earths rotation the atmosphere on the equator is twice as thick as on the poles where it tapers out.

Greenroom
WA, 7608 posts
27 Dec 2010 5:52AM
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Where is the best place to get a check up? I went for the first time to... They seem to be quite thorough? But I walked out of there feeling like I needed a second opinion. Does anyone in Perth have a good referal?

Cassa
WA, 1305 posts
27 Dec 2010 10:47AM
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oliver said...

Cassa said...

Went for my yearly check up last week ,
all good except for some little shyte on my arms, he burnt that off with his little squirter.
Asked about my shift to exmouth in a few months, and to my surprise was told that we will be much safer up there in the sun with no sunscreen (though he didnt recommend not using sunscreen) than we will down here in Perth WITH sunsrceen ON , I thought this was rather scary news!
cover up boys!!!


Just thought this was interesting. Did the doc mention why? Is it to do with the ozone hole or something else.

I live in Melbourne and when the sun is out, even in Spring and Autumn it has a real bite to it.


Said it was the fact that the ozone layer down here is very depleted, up north and away from the polution not so much of a problem.
I'm still stunned by the fact that I'll be better off up there than down here ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, BUT VERY happy

pweedas
WA, 4642 posts
27 Dec 2010 11:41AM
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I think the main factor would be that at Exmouth in the summer months, not many people are out in the sun in the middle of the day.
After about 10.30am, it's so blistering hot, everyone is either out of the sun or very much covered up.
The same applies to all those North West towns. It's so dammed hot outside that even things as dumb as the lizzards know that they need to get out of the sun in the middle of the day.
Unlike Melbourne or Perth where after 10.30 am on a hot day, everyone is stripped off and lying on a beach somewhere.

Cassa
WA, 1305 posts
28 Dec 2010 6:29PM
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Pw , have you noticed when your in the sun for that it seems to NIP your skin?
That does not happen in Exmouth, the doc was quite specific when he said , OUT IN THE SUN in Exmouth(not in air conditioned homes) was safer than OUT IN THE SUN down here .
It's ok if people dont believe , I was just repeating what a specialist told me
That nip that you feel on your skin in the sun wasn't there years ago!!
Skin cancer is not to be taken lightly, if your not sure - cover up!!

pweedas
WA, 4642 posts
28 Dec 2010 11:18PM
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Interesting.
I agree that even in autumn and spring I can feel the sun bite my back on sunny days in Perth.
Unfortunately, I don't remember if that was always the case or not. Maybe my memory cell is fried.
I sort of thought that maybe it always did and I only became more aware of it with all this talk of skin cancer over the last 15 years or so.
I know that when I was a kid no one cared less about it. We all just went down the beach and got subburnt,.. every weekend!
And for sunburn cream, mum used to rub a bit of olive oil on us. None of this fancy SP30+ stuff. So we basted like chickens on a rotisserie unitl we were red all over and then went home.

cisco
QLD, 12321 posts
29 Dec 2010 9:28AM
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pweedas said...

I think the main factor would be that at Exmouth in the summer months, not many people are out in the sun in the middle of the day.
After about 10.30am, it's so blistering hot, everyone is either out of the sun or very much covered up.
The same applies to all those North West towns. It's so dammed hot outside that even things as dumb as the lizzards know that they need to get out of the sun in the middle of the day.
Unlike Melbourne or Perth where after 10.30 am on a hot day, everyone is stripped off and lying on a beach somewhere.


A very relevant point you make about different locations.

I think it can be more dangerous getting sun exposure in places where it is not
"so blistering hot, everyone is either out of the sun or very much covered up."
because there may be a tendency to stay out in the sun longer because of lower temperatures and cool breezes.

Also they say UV levels tend to be higher on overcast days than cloudless days.

japie
NSW, 6815 posts
29 Dec 2010 11:54AM
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I had a couple of quite bid f(-)ckers cut out of my left hand this year by the quack at the skin cancer clinic. He put me onto a course or Effudex cream to address the myriad of remaining small ones on my ears, head and face.

I was really reluctant to use the stuff because of the side effects which he warned me about, that is that there is a possibility of open sores and a general leper like appearance. Anyhow I got up the courage and used it without too much drama. I did look a little more ragged than usual but the end result was pretty impressive in that everywhere I treated is now crust free.

Since using it I came across chlorine dioxide on the internet which appears to do a better job on the ones I missed. It is supposed to be a brilliant cure for sunburn which I can vouch for. I treated a case on boxing day that looked as though it would result in some pretty impressive blisters. The pain was gone in twenty minutes and the following day there was just a slight red tinge.

It is also very good for burns and bad breath.

maxm
NSW, 864 posts
29 Dec 2010 12:21PM
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japie said...

t is also very good for burns and bad breath.


Hooley dooley japie! What do you EAT for christmas??

japie
NSW, 6815 posts
29 Dec 2010 1:07PM
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maxm said...

japie said...

t is also very good for burns and bad breath.


Hooley dooley japie! What do you EAT for christmas??


You will have a laugh when you hear it. My dog has a habit of destroying sticks on the beach. This, in his opinion, is his second function in life, the first being to eat food. He turns his nose up at lettuce, cauliflower and tomato but all else is open game.

Unfortunately he developed a really bad infection in his jaw between two teeth and the result was a pretty bad smell. I have been giving him chlorine dioxide for six days and what looked like the second trip to the vet in six years has dissappeared, and it is now not an issue to having him breathing down my neck.

I just drove down to the South Coast and back with him in front of the ute. Unfortunately I can vouch for the fact that it does nothing for flatulence. When he stands with his head out of the window, which he does most of the time, the distance between his arse and my face is at the minimum so I get them fresh and frequent.

It is always good for a laugh unless we are in traffic. That tends to loosen the sinuses!

petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
29 Dec 2010 4:35PM
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i believe being exposed to sunlight, especially direct sunlight is vital for good health.

i stay away from sunglasses for this reason.

a little bit is good.

cisco
QLD, 12321 posts
29 Dec 2010 6:58PM
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japie said...

Since using it I came across chlorine dioxide on the internet which appears to do a better job on the ones I missed. It is supposed to be a brilliant cure for sunburn which I can vouch for.

It is also very good for burns and bad breath.


Does chlorine dioxide go by another generic name and where would one buy it.

I had a box of cocroach repellant powder once that was actually Epson Salts which is magnesium sulphate, which could be bought for a fraction of the cost of cocroach repellant powder.

maxm
NSW, 864 posts
29 Dec 2010 9:07PM
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petermac33 said...

i believe being exposed to sunlight, especially direct sunlight is vital for good health.

i stay away from sunglasses for this reason.

a little bit is good.




Does it ever worry you that you're living the life of a completely insane villain in a satirical 60's movie peter? You just need command of a SAC squadron and we'd all be in deep poo!

cisco
QLD, 12321 posts
29 Dec 2010 8:14PM
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^^^^^ That was hardly called for.

maxm
NSW, 864 posts
29 Dec 2010 10:06PM
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cisco said...

^^^^^ That was hardly called for.


I didn't realise your name was peter cisco. I meant petermac33.

Read what I wrote, cisco, then think on it and you'll see it's an obvious question. You probably have even seen the movie yourself. Now let peter answer it himself.

busterwa
3777 posts
29 Dec 2010 7:41PM
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pweedas
WA, 4642 posts
29 Dec 2010 7:57PM
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maxm said...

petermac33 said...

i believe being exposed to sunlight, especially direct sunlight is vital for good health.

i stay away from sunglasses for this reason.

a little bit is good.




Does it ever worry you that you're living the life of a completely insane villain in a satirical 60's movie peter? You just need command of a SAC squadron and we'd all be in deep poo!


You mean they now bomb people with the that stuff?
Where would they get so much?
Is it from here?


cisco
QLD, 12321 posts
29 Dec 2010 11:35PM
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maxm said...

cisco said...

^^^^^ That was hardly called for.


I didn't realise your name was peter cisco. I meant petermac33.

Read what I wrote, cisco, then think on it and you'll see it's an obvious question. You probably have even seen the movie yourself. Now let peter answer it himself.


My first name IS Peter but that is not the point. It just seems that no matter what
the guy posts there are a number of people on the forum, yourself included, that just weigh in on him without justification.

That is what I call "Cyber Bullying".

I am sorry, but even after "thinking on it" your question was not obvious.

Internet forums are probably not an ideal medium for talking in riddles.

I am not trying to be acrimonious here. All I am saying is lay of him and give him a chance to have a say.

Let us all be .

japie
NSW, 6815 posts
30 Dec 2010 1:25AM
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cisco said...

japie said...

Since using it I came across chlorine dioxide on the internet which appears to do a better job on the ones I missed. It is supposed to be a brilliant cure for sunburn which I can vouch for.

It is also very good for burns and bad breath.


Does chlorine dioxide go by another generic name and where would one buy it.

I had a box of cocroach repellant powder once that was actually Epson Salts which is magnesium sulphate, which could be bought for a fraction of the cost of cocroach repellant powder.


You can buy it and mix it yourself. The instructions are on quite a few websites that originated with a bloke who believes he has a cure for malaria and a huge number of other ills.

I researched it pretty throughly. It is the most effective oxidation salt known to man. It has been used for nearly 100 years in water treatment plants and in the food industry. It is the only "chlorine" to leave no harmful residuals.

A bloke by the name of Jim Humble cured some labourers of malaria in four hours stuck in the Amazon with nothing else other than water purification drops. He researched it further and found that if you activated it with vinegar,or better still citric acid, and took it orally in small doses with water it would cure a vast range of parasitic caused ilnesses inluding aids and cancer, some forms of athritis,herpes you name it.

If you do a search for MMS there are numerous links. I posted my experience with it here:

www.healthsalon.org/264/mms-de-mystified-sodium-chlorite-stabilized-oxygen-chlorine-dioxide-detox/

I have no interest in either the site or any of the suppliers that market a ready to go mix over the internet but that was where I bought mine.

cisco
QLD, 12321 posts
30 Dec 2010 12:50AM
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Thanks buddy.



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