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Take beach sand for kids sandpit

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Created by dirtyharry > 9 months ago, 26 Mar 2011
dirtyharry
WA, 444 posts
26 Mar 2011 5:08PM
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Is it legal to take beach sand home for a kids sand pit?

Anyone know of any good beaches around Perth metro to get onto with a trailer to get sand (have 4wd)?

Mark _australia
WA, 22244 posts
26 Mar 2011 5:11PM
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I have no idea if it is legal but Dutch Inn used to have a boat ramp so you can reverse a trailer down to within about 2m of the sand

(If you don't know Dutchies it is carpark just near princess st cottesloe. Ramp access is next to the shower)

dirtyharry
WA, 444 posts
26 Mar 2011 5:17PM
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Good one Mark.

To be honest, I was more worried about where to get access than the legality of it anyway

GypsyDrifter
WA, 2371 posts
26 Mar 2011 5:43PM
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I am quite sure it is illegal. But can't find a site to back it up.
Good luck with that.

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
26 Mar 2011 6:13PM
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my dad got busted taking seaweed for his vege garden, and the stuff was clogging the boatramp at the time. I think it depends on the level of ranger danger in your area

Mark _australia
WA, 22244 posts
26 Mar 2011 6:52PM
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dirtyharry - at Cottesloe beaches you can rest assured everything is illegal

Cassa
WA, 1305 posts
26 Mar 2011 6:58PM
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White Hills , Mandurah ,easy access, dont know if it is legal though
Got a trailor myself for insulation in my pizza oven to keep the heat in

dirtyharry
WA, 444 posts
26 Mar 2011 7:02PM
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Mark _australia said...

dirtyharry - at Cottesloe beaches you can rest assured everything is illegal


My argument will be that by taking sand I am potentially preventing someone from having fun. Surely they've got be okay with that? [}:)]

And thanks Cassa.

Carantoc
WA, 6507 posts
26 Mar 2011 7:12PM
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You live in Perth and you need sand ????????

Just dig a hole where your back lawn used to be.

In fact - just do nothing for 24 hours - well done, your whole yard is now one sand pit.

decrepit
WA, 12004 posts
26 Mar 2011 7:26PM
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For some reason, parents prefer their sandpit not to be full of black sand.
I'm sure the kids don't care though.

Cassa
WA, 1305 posts
26 Mar 2011 7:29PM
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or try this






busterwa
3777 posts
26 Mar 2011 7:43PM
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just come over and vacuum the passenger side of my falcoon and there will be enough to fill it it.

cisco
QLD, 12321 posts
27 Mar 2011 12:30AM
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Taking beach sand may or may not be legal. It is certainly not ethical. If everybody did it how long would the beach last.

It is cheap enough to buy at your local landscape supplies depot or concrete supplies yard.

For $20 or $30 they can dump a half yard bucket in your trailer in 2 minutes flat.

You are not seriously considering shovelling that amount of sand UP into your trailer and then shovelling it out again into your kids sand pit. Sheesh.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
26 Mar 2011 11:44PM
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^^ fun police

dirtyharry
WA, 444 posts
27 Mar 2011 8:12AM
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cisco said...

Taking beach sand may or may not be legal. It is certainly not ethical. If everybody did it how long would the beach last.

It is cheap enough to buy at your local landscape supplies depot or concrete supplies yard.

For $20 or $30 they can dump a half yard bucket in your trailer in 2 minutes flat.

You are not seriously considering shovelling that amount of sand UP into your trailer and then shovelling it out again into your kids sand pit. Sheesh.


It had to come. And yes, I am very much considering doing exactly that.

Lets assume that 80% of WA's 21,000km coastline is sand - that's 16,800km to supply sand for domestic sandpits. That's roughly 10m of sandy beach per Western Australian resident. I suggest you go to a landscape supply shop, buy a trailer of sand and head to your local beach and spread it over the full width of a 10m long section and then come back and tell us what impact it had. I'm guessing bugger all.

Besides, that's ignoring the fact that, despite the unprecedented surge in the use of sandpits that's bound to occur when people discover that sand can be got from the beach, it is highly unlikely that the use of sandpits is ever going to reach 1 sandpit per WA resident (me and my wife certainly don't plan on getting one, and my 2 kids will be sharing theirs). I would guess that less than 1% of the population (much, much less) is in the process of building a sandpit at any one time.

Besides, the landscape supply shop don't magically create their sand - the dig it out of somewhere using big, diesel powered equipment and then process it in what I can only guess is an energy and water intensive process. I think the environmental impact of me filling my trailer by hand at a beach is probably going to be less than paying a landscape supplier for it. And I need the exercise anyway,

I didn't ask the question in the search for some mis-guided moral judgement, just wanted to know how stealthy I had to be in my approach and where the best spot to do it was. Thanks for your answer anyway.

theDoctor
NSW, 5778 posts
27 Mar 2011 11:41AM
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beach sand has sand fleas, dog poo, human poo, broken glass, rotting detrius, etc, etc

landscape sand is washed and screened

dirtyharry
WA, 444 posts
27 Mar 2011 8:47AM
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theDoctor said...


beach sand has sand fleas, dog poo, human poo, broken glass, rotting detrius, etc, etc

landscape sand is washed and screened




That's sick. Even more reason for me to clean the beaches up by getting rid of the filthy stuff.

patsken
WA, 705 posts
27 Mar 2011 6:48PM
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theDoctor said...


beach sand has sand fleas, dog poo, human poo, broken glass, rotting detrius, etc, etc

landscape sand is washed and screened






landscape sand usually comes from a landscape sand supply yard where the landscape supply yard worker/owner mixes his "jungle mix or vege patch" soil.

Those soil mixes usually have a lot of chook s..t mixed in which is incorporated into the mix by front end loader or bobcat.
This is done by churning it over with said machine which creates a lot of dust that smells like chook s..t !!

The beach sand is far cleaner in my opinion. It generally gets washed by the ocean at least once a day.

...and yes I did work in a landscape yard as a holiday job many years ago mixing those types of mixes with a front end loader not far from the "screened and washed" sand. Oh and by the way the same front end loader was used to mix and load the various products.

byf
WA, 512 posts
27 Mar 2011 7:41PM
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dirtyharry, my place golden bay. My bore s#%t itself a few months ago so front and back yard is a sand pit. Back then i thought we will get rain soon so dont worry about getting it fixed for now. Good call d%#khead. If we ever actually get some rain here (can someone remind me what rain looks and smells like) my so called grass/lawn just may survive.

NasiGoreng
VIC, 260 posts
28 Mar 2011 5:17PM
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I used to carry a garbage bag half filled with beach sand in the back of my car, to solo lanch my kite off a grassy knoll next to a harbour back in the UK.

I filled the bag of sand in broad daylight and carried it off.

Theres too much sand anyway like bajillions of grains on each beach for everyone.

get stuck in!

Mark _australia
WA, 22244 posts
28 Mar 2011 7:02PM
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theDoctor said...


beach sand has sand fleas, dog poo, human poo, broken glass, rotting detrius, etc, etc

landscape sand is washed and screened





yes but whilst digging it up, the view can be much better
show me a landscaping supplies with bikini girls, tight hotpants joggers jiggling, a sunset, cool clear water and a pub within 100m

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
28 Mar 2011 11:01PM
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just buy some washed sand , dont be a cheapskate!!!

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
28 Mar 2011 8:24PM
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cisco said...

Taking beach sand may or may not be legal. It is certainly not ethical. If everybody did it how long would the beach last.

It is cheap enough to buy at your local landscape supplies depot or concrete supplies yard.

For $20 or $30 they can dump a half yard bucket in your trailer in 2 minutes flat.

You are not seriously considering shovelling that amount of sand UP into your trailer and then shovelling it out again into your kids sand pit. Sheesh.

up our way the beach sand gets carted450kms to get here so its $140pt, or 160 for the good stuff, so people take it with them when they move house
before it was available in town , we used to go out to a certain old mine and dig a hole on the leewward side of the batterysands pile. it would then fill up over a year with windblown stuff that the fine clay dust had blown out of. that way you got rid of most of the remnant mercury and arsenic

cisco
QLD, 12321 posts
28 Mar 2011 11:37PM
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landyacht said...
before it was available in town , we used to go out to a certain old mine and dig a hole on the leewward side of the batterysands pile. it would then fill up over a year with windblown stuff that the fine clay dust had blown out of. that way you got rid of most of the remnant mercury and arsenic


Mate, you have to be the dead set recycle and/or get it for free "King of the Continent".

Mark _australia
WA, 22244 posts
28 Mar 2011 10:35PM
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landyacht said...

cisco said...

Taking beach sand may or may not be legal. It is certainly not ethical. If everybody did it how long would the beach last.

It is cheap enough to buy at your local landscape supplies depot or concrete supplies yard.

For $20 or $30 they can dump a half yard bucket in your trailer in 2 minutes flat.

You are not seriously considering shovelling that amount of sand UP into your trailer and then shovelling it out again into your kids sand pit. Sheesh.

up our way the beach sand gets carted450kms to get here so its $140pt, or 160 for the good stuff, so people take it with them when they move house
before it was available in town , we used to go out to a certain old mine and dig a hole on the leewward side of the batterysands pile. it would then fill up over a year with windblown stuff that the fine clay dust had blown out of. that way you got rid of most of the remnant mercury and arsenic




If you're going to stuff around at old mines you may as well collect that mercury and run the sand thru it to get the trace gold out

rescueme
WA, 79 posts
28 Mar 2011 11:14PM
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landyacht said...

my dad got busted taking seaweed for his vege garden, and the stuff was clogging the boatramp at the time. I think it depends on the level of ranger danger in your area


I want some seaweed for my garden... needs to be kelp though not that stringy **** you get around sorrento, which doesn't break down (seriously, 3 years later i still have the stringy bits in my garden)?
where to get kelp in Perth?

Bigwavedave
QLD, 2057 posts
29 Mar 2011 1:26AM
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theDoctor said...


beach sand has sand fleas, dog poo, human poo, broken glass, rotting detrius, etc, etc

landscape sand is washed and screened




kids sand pits have cat poo, vomit, dead lizards and broken Tonka trucks in them

Buggered if I would let my kids play at the beach after what the Doctor said

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
29 Mar 2011 1:43PM
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There is a bit of sand up at Lanno, dont recon they would miss it



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