??? I thought we had them all over here.
They take nice pics if you get them to arc up a bit. 
Select to expand quoteWA71 said..GypsyDrifter said..
^^^ not too sure if that's good camouflage ? (being black with white stripes)
He sticks out like ...yer he just stick out 
I have seen lots of sea snakes this colour
Could it be a
Trouser snake
Black and white trouser snake doggie....hmmmm...I think I would run
Run ...Long!....Run..... Hard! ...but there would definable be some running involved 
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95% of snakebites occur because people didn't use the correct end of the shovel. I wish all the snakes here were harmless varieties like QLD has. I quickly get tired of all the bloody tiger snakes here.
Ahem. We got plenty of the deadlies here. Death Adder, Tiger, Brown, Tiapan, just to name a few.
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95% of snakebites occur because people didn't use the correct end of the shovel. I wish all the snakes here were harmless varieties like QLD has. I quickly get tired of all the bloody tiger snakes here.
You could be right there. One of the locals identified my snake as brown or wimp. In either case I better sharpen my shovel
or prepare some cutting tool on long stick.
Definitely that is the case where Mark with his shotgun could help.
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They take nice pics if you get them to arc up a bit.
Those are fantasic pictures!!!Select to expand quoteMacroscien said...
or prepare some cutting tool on long stick.
Otherwise known as a garden hoe. They are highly effective.
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Otherwise known as a garden hoe. They are highly effective.
If the snake must be cut just behind head or at just anywhere, even tail and then die from bleeding?
If you cut in half, can still bait you?
Are there any automatic traps for snakes?
snakes are more scared of you, than you are scared of them! treat them with respect, they are part of the australian "ecosystem"
learn to live with them rather than have a hissy fit......just sayin!
You can send an email to these guys: www.snakecatchers.com.au/index.php they will ID it and reply with what it is. There are also numbers listed for your local Snake Catcher. We had an Eastern Brown removed from near our swimming pool a few weeks back, it now lives west of Brisbane.
Whew! We just had a gang of those long skinny olive ones slithering around the doors this arvo. I haven't seen them before. We get the occasional python and they can be impressive but these little guys are quick. I'm in Brisbane western suburbs too.
I hope they are tree snakes but I suppose they could be Brown snakes. I'm not going to get close enough to find out.
They are all protected I understand so you shouldn't be killing them.
OK, Fine. Thank you . That is the reason for my post in first place.
I would like to know what do you people do when you need to deal with snakes.
I asked for your advice 
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So far response I have is everything from take care with spade or garden hoe, professional snake relocation to ignoring them completely.
I guess some of you leraned to deal with the problem from generations here, surviving on the outback at farms where easy and quick solution works the best, some others live in city apartments and whole problem seems to be more philosophical and abstract.
I am not really worry about myself but neighbors families have very young children, running and playing in the bushes (that is acreage island surrounded by dense city location) . I am not also worry about harmless tree snakes and pythons even but reports of brown snake are very common here.
The last thing I want to see is suffering one of the my good neighbors and knowing that there was time I could do something to prevent disaster
coming from a family with deep roots in the bush I can say that the idea is to either shoot them or chop them up with a shovel. then burry them because they can still administer a deathly bite if you stand on them when they are dead.
now that theory is based on the fact that to get to a hospital in a regional area is difficult at best. a snake bite is a death sentence. watching a stockman take out a brown or black snack with a whip from the back of a horse is a sight to be hold.
the other thing you will see in rural areas is a well maintained lawn around the house, no long grass. snakes are going to be around piles of wood and chicken coops and in long grass. so that's where you be more careful. when walking through long grass make noise to convince them to move on.
mow your grass. clean up your gardens etc. then you can see them. oh yeah, get rid of any vermin in and around your house. snakes will come into your house chasing a meal of them.
me personally, i'd remove any snake I come across because of my kids. depending on how aggressive it is and where it is depends on whether I call the snake catcher or grab the shovel.
brown snakes usually hang out in pairs.
I was pretty surprised to read in the qld wildlife book linked on page 1 that swamp tigers are considered harmless.
certainly weren't when I was growing up.
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I was pretty surprised to read in the qld wildlife book linked on page 1 that swamp tigers are considered harmless.
certainly weren't when I was growing up.
I don't know where these books and web sites get their information from.
I should send over a tiger snake for them to play with for a while and then they could revise their writings, if they live that long.
Tiger snakes are one of the most poisonous snakes in Australia and they are made worse by the fact that they do not try to run away when you approach, no matter how much noise you make. They just sit there waiting.
That doesn't mean they will certainly bite you if you put your foot close to them, but they will if they feel like it.
At the start of season, they generally feel like it. (august, sept, and maybe october)
At the end of season they generally don't. (march, april)
They rarely strike higher than gum boots high so you're pretty safe grubbing through tall grass in gum boots and jeans.
The problem is, gum boots and jeans are really uncomfortable in summer so it's more often shorts and joggers.
They are supposed to be a protected species. I have no idea why they should be.
They are everywhere and breed like rabbits.
Tiger snakes are born live, and lethal from birth and the normal number is around 12 to 24. (Yes, I count them.)
There are probably hundreds of them around the paddocks here and there is only one of me.
If I killed every one I saw it would make no difference at all, in the same way that it makes no difference if I killed every rabbit I saw.
There are too many of them and the breeding rate far exceeds the kill rate I am capable of, unless I made it my sole occupation.
Any which cross my path around the house are relocated with a spade to the afterlife.
Don't tackle them with a spade when they are propped up and ready to take you on.
On a warm day they are very quick and you will probably end up with both you and the snake dancing around on the same patch of ground.
The odds will then be in the snakes favour.
Stand still a short distance off and wait for it to slither off.
Don't take your eyes off it for even one second because they somehow become invisible and disappear.
Then aim one short chop about 10 to 15 inches behind the head.
Don't aim too close to the head because they can move it so fast you will almost always miss it. And then they get angry again.
Don't try and cut it right through. There is no need and it's better if you don't.
So long as it's spine is broken they are very much restricted in what they can do.
Stay cool and calculating. Don't go into a wild slashing frenzy because your odds of coming out on the wrong side of the equation increase drastically.
Wait for it to simmer down a bit.
You can then give it a wack on the head to finish it off.
It is still lethal after death so don't start using it as a whip or anything silly.
People have died after being hit by a snakes head while using them as whips. (true)
Cut it's head off and bury it.
For me, all this applies only to tiger snakes.
They are easy to identify and we are not short of them.
Anything else is free to carry on doing whatever snakes do.
If we had taipans or death adders here I would probably extend it to those, but we don't.
If you do then it's your decision.
{edit} very important. Always have a clear retreat path. They can throw themselves about 6 feet when amped up on a hot day.
swamp tiger is not a tiger snake. it's another name for a brown tree snake or night tiger.
while they are not harmless, they're not deadly. they love roof cavities & exposed rafters (at our house anyway).
i reckon you're better off using a piece of fencing wire about 4 feet long with a handle bent into it to kill a snake. swing it like a whip. a shovel is way too clumsy & risky, and the snake can see what you're doing. they never know the wire is coming until it's too late...
ah I see the swamp tiger is the keelback. yeah seen many of those growing up but didn't know they weren't venomous. just called them all tigers.
saw a few of the eastern tigers also. that one seemed to cause the most deaths. kids jumping into dams and landing on nests and getting nailed.
saw a lot of black snakes and browns at school. everyone was in fear of those 2.
the snake most likely around the house was the green tree snake. of course they were brown but go figure. my brother wound one up once inside the house and it went mental. I've never seen him freak out like he did that day. it took the snake a while to figure out how to get traction on the tiles but when it did it went him because he had made it so angry.
In that case I know nothing about swamp tigers so whatever they say in regard to that snake, is probably true.
We only have the one sort here, and they bite.
Also, I know there are better things to dispense them with. The trouble is, I never have anything other than a spade close by when I come across them. After a while, spades are good for almost anything.
Spades are also better if they get into scrub or long grass.
You can still dispense with it even if the front half of the snake is competely hidden, as is often the case.
They are not real smart. They must think if the front half is hidden the rest of it must be as well.
Also, if it gets away after being seriously cut with a spade, it will die anyway.
They don't live in hygenic surrounds so any serious cut will probably be fatal in the longer term.
But a length of chain or twisted fence wire does a great job if you have some close by and can get a good swing at it out in the open.
It's the kind you whack with a stick, or whatever you have. In California we had rattlers, now in Hawaii we don't have any snakes whatsoever
Select to expand quoteBeaglebuddy said..
It's the kind you whack with a stick, or whatever you have. In California we had rattlers, now in Hawaii we don't have any snakes whatsoever
except for the ones in the lineup
Select to expand quotepweedas said..But a length of chain or twisted fence wire does a great job if you have some close by and can get a good swing at it out in the open.
my .410 snake charmer works even better
A few years ago at a mates farm in Bindoon they had a snake hanging around the farmhouse.
Whenever his missus saw the snake- it was gone by the time hubby finally got his 12 gauge out.
Finally one morning- one of the kids spotted the tail of the snake poking out from behind a cardboard box on the back verandah.
While kid kept watch, Mum fetched the shotgun and loaded both barrels.
She lined up the shotgun and let rip with both barrels.
Unfortunately......... instead of bird shot, she had loaded up with 2 x 1 ounce solid slugs.
The "snake" turned out to be a lizard, and the slugs had missed- but gone through the cardboard box, the breezeblock wall, and done a very good job of ventilating the hot water system that lived on the other side of the wall.
We love reminding the old girl about that one
Stephen
I think your best bet would be to let it bite you. If you live its not dangerous, if you die, it is.
Please post your out come.
We live quite close to Brisbane and have considerable amounts of bushland nearby and so we regularly get snakes both in the yard and in the house. If they are spotted in the yard we generally leave them alone, we may try and persuade them to go across the road into the bush - a long handled broom is usefull for this. We recently had a carpet snake in the bathroom - I didn't stay long once I saw it. I just closed the door so it couldn't enter the rest of the house, but left the window open so it could exit the way it entered, eventually it did. Now carpet snakes/pythons may not be venemous but they do bite (if you stand on them - I don't blame it I imagine its an automatic self defence mechanism - bastard) but the bite can be more dangerous as it can contain diseases from all the rubbish/rodents they eat. A trip to the hospital for that one. As for the Eastern Brown, I saw it one morning, went and got the camera, took some pics, emailed them off to the website in my previous post. I wasn't impressed with what it was considering I would have been within striking distance had it been active - luckily it was morning when I first saw it. Where it was located was near the pool filter and with summer approaching (kids in the pool/ my father in the yard/snake mating season) we chose to have it relocated by the professionals if we saw it again. I was also given similar suggestions re killing it etc, but really didn't feel like putting myself in any danger. I saw it again for about 4 afternoons and then on the next morning it stayed in roughly the same spot long enough the snake catchers to arrive and catch it. They make it look so easy.
They suggested, clearing the plants from the near the path as snakes like having a quick escape from sunning, plus the other things already mentioned.
Select to expand quoteWA71 said..GypsyDrifter said..
^^^ not too sure if that's good camouflage ? (being black with white stripes)
He sticks out like ...yer he just stick out
I have seen lots of sea snakes this colour
Could it be a
Trouser snake
Too many eyes
Select to expand quoteMacroscien said..
If the snake must be cut just behind head or at just anywhere, even tail and then die from bleeding?
If you cut in half, can still bait you?
Are there any automatic traps for snakes?
As long as you hit the snake above the tail (bottom 10% of length) than you will hit vital organs and the snake will eventually die. Using a shot gun is much safer than a shovel or hoe though.
Yes, as others have now said, a snake can deliver a fatal bite even when dead and are especially dangerous when injured or angry.
We have a huge number of tiger snakes here that come right up to the house and often sit on the path at the back door. It's not ideal with a playful golden retiver to protect, given that medical or vetinary care for a snake bite is not exactly close at hand for us.
I'd go broke if I called the snake catcher every time I had one here so I opt to deal with them myself carefully and only because tiger snakes will not move away when they hear you coming. My experience with brown snakes on the other hand is that they take off fast when anyone approaches them so they might not be a huge danger to you anyway.
Snake traps are not available to the general public because handling live venomous snakes is considered more than a little bit dangeous. Some people do make their own out off beer cans but keep in mind than angry snakes are not safe or easy to dispatch.
Electronic snake repellers are available but their effectivness is disputed. Quite likely not worth your money but if you don't mind parting with money then they won't do any harm.
Macro, I would be pretty sure that is a harmless green tree snake. (they are often brown)
The others are as mentioned are a Bandi Bandi and Carpet Snake and also are relatively harmless.
Do a google search for Brown Snake so you know what they look like... They are thicker and have a much more bullet like, rounded head. Pythons generally have an angular "arrow head" shape with a skinny neck behind.
Brown tree snake: 
Brown Snake: 
Please don't kill any snakes. If you think one is poisonous and is hanging around or is in your house call someone on here to remove it...http://www.wildlifeqld.com.au/Snake_catcher_directory.html
Otherwise leave it alone - most likely it will be gone before you know it.
