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What's a good car for my 18yo daughter

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Created by oliver > 9 months ago, 27 Feb 2011
oliver
3952 posts
27 Feb 2011 3:04PM
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I want to spend up to 10K

saltiest1
NSW, 2496 posts
27 Feb 2011 6:19PM
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62mac
WA, 24860 posts
27 Feb 2011 3:22PM
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or a Toyota Echo or Yaris

Ian K
WA, 4049 posts
27 Feb 2011 3:48PM
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Whatever it is it should be the best car in the family. The one with the most up to date safety features, airbags, antiskid computers etc. We found a car with all the airbags at the guvvy auction, ~ $14K. It was an ex police car but it goes well despite a misspent youth. It's still the best/safest car in the family.

Maybe let her drive your car if it has more than $10k of safety features and buy yourself a cheap runabout.

hamburglar
ACT, 2174 posts
27 Feb 2011 6:56PM
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doggie
WA, 15849 posts
27 Feb 2011 4:07PM
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Hyundai Getz

Ian K
WA, 4049 posts
27 Feb 2011 4:08PM
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hamburglar said...






The VW L1 what a machine 100km per litre. If we could get those unnecessarily large off roaders (OK, and commodores) out of the suburbs maybe we could all drive cars like that, be just as safe, (maybe safer) and the worlds remaining petroleum would last 10 times longer.

I can see it with roof racks, wouldn't affect economy too much you'd hope?

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
27 Feb 2011 4:22PM
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DJ's car that's a perfect girls car imo

chronic
NSW, 318 posts
27 Feb 2011 7:29PM
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subaru imprezza 1997-2000 model automatic
full time all wheel drive
get the hatch so she and her boyfriend can sleep in the back as well
bout $3000-$7000 heaps of change for a new kite for u

oliver
3952 posts
27 Feb 2011 4:41PM
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Ian K said...

Whatever it is it should be the best car in the family. The one with the most up to date safety features, airbags, antiskid computers etc. We found a car with all the airbags at the guvvy auction, ~ $14K. It was an ex police car but it goes well despite a misspent youth. It's still the best/safest car in the family.

Maybe let her drive your car if it has more than $10k of safety features and buy yourself a cheap runabout.


Our family has only ever had one car. Currently it's a 2001 5 series BMW. We've had it for about 8 years and we just get the regular services etc - it's a fantastic car and has served us very well. Nothing major has ever gone wrong with it, except now it's starting to leak, the top transparent coat is fading, and a few electronic things are going bung - I think it's time to update.

In the past we've had toyotas - great cars, but my experience is the interiors and paint stuffs up on them in the Aussie sun. I've also had numerous fords - will never go there again.

So we are really looking for two cars - a new one for us and one for my daughter.

I have a figure of $50K for both - $40K for us and $10K for daughter - there is no way will she get something more expensive than what I've worked for.

Personally, all my life I've wanted a big arse Jag - those leather seats, V12 and the walnut dashboard, but I don't think that is ever going to happen, cause at purchase time my brain suddenly kicks into action.

I think I'll be pretty happy with an updated 5 or 7 series or maybe an M3 or M5 BMW - I'm pushing 50 and if I can't get a Jag - I want some f'ckn carbon emitting V8 - cause I'm set in my ways and I've been way too good for such a long time now.

My daughter is falling into the same trap that I did when I was young. Fords/Holdens/Toyotas and other pedestrian cars. She thinks logically, that parts are cheaper, servicing and petrol etc. However, age has told me to buy a well made car that doesn't need so many parts and servicing.

I really don't know where I'm heading with this. But I reckon she should go for a BMW also - only cause it's been the best, most reliable make of car I've ever owned. But I really don't have any idea.

seafever17
WA, 360 posts
27 Feb 2011 4:45PM
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My daughter has inherited a 2005? Ford Focus. It has airbags.Is solid even though its small. It nags the shizzen out of you if you dont put your seatbelts on. Best of all its proven to be completely reliable. The thought of her breaking down at 2 am and walking for help bothers me more than her crashing (within reason). Sad but thats the world we live in.
The fact is anything recent enough to be reliable has the potential to be driven in such a manner that safety features may as well be non existent. Go for a good all rounder. Have a serious discussion about the responsibilities that come with a set of keys and let her know that you will drive to the ends of the earth at 3 am to help her no matter what is going on.

Oh yeah.... Get her a hands free kit for her phone. That stupid thing is the biggest danger around.

GPA
WA, 2520 posts
27 Feb 2011 5:17PM
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doggie said...

Hyundai Getz


Exactly what I am starting to look at for my soon to be 18yo daughter... Economical, safe, easy to park and plenty around so cheap to pick up a relatively late model and plenty of spares...

Plus it's not likely to be a thief magnet...

I'm looking to spend about $8k.

Good point about the hands-free car kit. Got my wife a pretty decent bluetooth job for about $125 from DSE - clips onto the sun visor.

I'm also going to get her into one of those advanced driver training courses - teaches you how to get out of a slide and how to do a (real) emergency stop etc...

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
27 Feb 2011 5:19PM
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Oliver,both my girls have Yaris's tf car

CJW
NSW, 1718 posts
27 Feb 2011 8:21PM
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oliver said...

Ian K said...

Whatever it is it should be the best car in the family. The one with the most up to date safety features, airbags, antiskid computers etc. We found a car with all the airbags at the guvvy auction, ~ $14K. It was an ex police car but it goes well despite a misspent youth. It's still the best/safest car in the family.

Maybe let her drive your car if it has more than $10k of safety features and buy yourself a cheap runabout.


Our family has only ever had one car. Currently it's a 2001 5 series BMW. We've had it for about 8 years and we just get the regular services etc - it's a fantastic car and has served us very well. Nothing major has ever gone wrong with it, except now it's starting to leak, the top transparent coat is fading, and a few electronic things are going bung - I think it's time to update.

In the past we've had toyotas - great cars, but my experience is the interiors and paint stuffs up on them in the Aussie sun. I've also had numerous fords - will never go there again.

So we are really looking for two cars - a new one for us and one for my daughter.

I have a figure of $50K for both - $40K for us and $10K for daughter - there is no way will she get something more expensive than what I've worked for.

Personally, all my life I've wanted a big arse Jag - those leather seats, V12 and the walnut dashboard, but I don't think that is ever going to happen, cause at purchase time my brain suddenly kicks into action.

I think I'll be pretty happy with an updated 5 or 7 series or maybe an M3 or M5 BMW - I'm pushing 50 and if I can't get a Jag - I want some f'ckn carbon emitting V8 - cause I'm set in my ways and I've been way too good for such a long time now.

My daughter is falling into the same trap that I did when I was young. Fords/Holdens/Toyotas and other pedestrian cars. She thinks logically, that parts are cheaper, servicing and petrol etc. However, age has told me to buy a well made car that doesn't need so many parts and servicing.

I really don't know where I'm heading with this. But I reckon she should go for a BMW also - only cause it's been the best, most reliable make of car I've ever owned. But I really don't have any idea.


The only thing going against something like a BMW is that they are expensive to run (as in service) once they get to that age where stuff starts going pop, which is hard if your kids have to pay for that stuff. And to be honest i'd expect a 2001 model car not to leak or have electrical stuff start to go up the shizer; particularly on something that cost well over 100k new (5 series).

Say what you will about Commodores and Falcons but they are cheap to run and cheap to fix which is once reason they are so popular, particularly with younger people and models post say 2001-ish are pretty damn safe. I own a commodore and my brother owns a BMW so I know both sides of the coin, both have full leather, cruise, climate, elec seats, front/side airbags, etc etc, his cost 90K, mine cost 50K(new), his last set of tyres cost him $3200, mine cost $1000, when he has to buy brake pads for it (it has 6 piston calipers) i'm pretty sure he's going to need finance

Don't get me wrong i'd buy and M3 in a heartbeat if I had the cash lying around but i'm not sure a BMW is the best first car for someone. I'd be more inclined to go with something small, focus, impreza, mazda 3, corolla, accent etc.

hills
SA, 1622 posts
27 Feb 2011 8:45PM
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I'm already thinking what car I should get for my 13yo son. My thoughts are getting him a 2 seater of some kind so that he can only have 1 passenger and thus avoid the peer group pressure encouraging him to do something stupid. Maybe a Jeep wrangler with no back seat or a ute or something along the lines of that.

Wineman
NSW, 1412 posts
27 Feb 2011 9:27PM
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have 23 & 25y.o. girls (OK woman - until something goes wrong [}:)])

1. Tell them to turn phone off or do NOT use or answer when driving, & that includes stops.

2. Get them to pay for car & it's running cost (pay you back if necessary). They may take it &/or you for granted. (yes, I'm a hard ar$e)

3. Try for safety ie. airbags & not tiny tin can size. Ultimately it is their driving ability (can't buy experience unfortunately) that will determine how they will go/survive.

4. Just sold my 95 Subaru Liberty sedan auto for $2900. Good safe-ish (min airbags), reliable. But go a bit later models for more safer + all wheel drive.

Ian K is on the money there also.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
27 Feb 2011 6:37PM
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hills said...

I'm already thinking what car I should get for my 13yo son. My thoughts are getting him a 2 seater of some kind so that he can only have 1 passenger and thus avoid the peer group pressure encouraging him to do something stupid. Maybe a Jeep wrangler with no back seat or a ute or something along the lines of that.


I used to do parts for Jeeps, if you want my opinion PM me, I don't like talking about this stuff in a public forum. Can get peoples noses out of joint.

oliver
3952 posts
27 Feb 2011 7:05PM
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Thanks breezers.

This discussion has woken me up to the reality of this. I would love to be able to put this whole car thing off and make her pay for it etc. But I can't see it happening.

I know she will prang it, so a safe car is really important. ABS brakes are great, and think the side airbags are also a good thing - hope they never have to be used. The phone thing with her is a real worry - instead of installing a hands free kit, I think I'll just make it clear to her that a condition on the car is that her phone is not to be used under any circumstances while she's in it.

Her teen years were difficult enough without this new worry.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
27 Feb 2011 7:20PM
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Hyundai Getz.

theDoctor
NSW, 5780 posts
27 Feb 2011 10:29PM
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oliver said...

But I really don't have any idea.


thats pretty obvious thinking you're gonna get a reliable ten grand bmw...

get the getz, or give her my number and I'll take her to places she never dreamed existed..... (as long as she pays for the fuel)

mkseven
QLD, 2314 posts
27 Feb 2011 9:42PM
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Yaris

Getz feels a little bit more solid and Getz has stability control but it needs it, you can really punt the yaris hard in twisty's and rain without it coming unstuck. Getz is good up to a point and then it snaps into instant death mode.

Yaris has much better suspension, comfort and gearbox (both auto and manual of Getz is garbage).

Cheap on fuel, cheap on servicing. Motors and gearboxes good for at least 300,000. I've seen echo's hit 750,000 (work cars not an easy life) before their first engine replacement, engine hasnt changed for yaris.

I've been in minor accidents in both and both are surprising, they kinda bounce off when something hits them. I would certainly rate them better in accidents better than alot of bigger older stuff. I've investigated and been to accidents of workmates where you walk up to the car and go f*** they are dead but in each one they walked away with just a bit of bruising.

BTW I generally dislike toyota's. Aside from the build seeming a little light the only other critisim i've got is the gearing for the auto's. It is almost tiring to keep at 60km/h as it wants to stay at either 50ish or 70ish.

mkseven
QLD, 2314 posts
27 Feb 2011 9:49PM
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theDoctor said...

oliver said...

But I really don't have any idea.


thats pretty obvious thinking you're gonna get a reliable ten grand bmw...

get the getz, or give her my number and I'll take her to places she never dreamed existed..... (as long as she pays for the fuel)


reliable and bmw should never be said in the same sentance anyway

poor relative
WA, 9089 posts
27 Feb 2011 7:49PM
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theDoctor said...
I'll take her to places she never dreamed existed.....


Therein is every fathers worst nightmare

cisco
QLD, 12337 posts
27 Feb 2011 10:51PM
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I have a beautiful 84 XE Fairmont that would be just the ticket for her.

Style, performance, reliability and economy.

It is worth $20k+ but as you are a member of the Seabreeze community, I'll cop $10k for it as long as you don't tell anyone how cheap I have sold it.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
27 Feb 2011 8:54PM
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cisco said...

I have a beautiful 84 XE Fairmont that would be just the ticket for her.

Style, performance, reliability and economy.

It is worth $20k+ but as you are a member of the Seabreeze community, I'll cop $10k for it as long as you don't tell anyone how cheap I have sold it.


Ha!! Cisco it's worth $250

Skid
QLD, 1499 posts
27 Feb 2011 11:01PM
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seafever17 said...

...... The thought of her breaking down at 2 am and walking for help bothers me more than her crashing (within reason). ....


Consider getting her membership with RACQ (or whatever it is called in your state). Even the most reliable car built can still get a flat tyre, flat battery or run out of fuel...

Good luck..

jenkz
WA, 793 posts
27 Feb 2011 9:05PM
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Have to agree with Doggie here.
Both with the Getz and what he will possibly say about the Jeep.
To keep your hand out of your pocket its best to steer clear of most older Euro model vehicles. Also google "Holden Astra faults" and make your own mind up about them.Oliver pm me if you have any questions.

MIKO
QLD, 408 posts
27 Feb 2011 11:25PM
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Might cost a bit more than 10 k

cisco
QLD, 12337 posts
27 Feb 2011 11:27PM
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I knew that would pull you out of the wood work doggie.

So what is any old car really worth given that it will pass a roadworthy inspection.

1. Four new tyres. $500.

2. New windscreen. $300.

3. New battery. $140.

4. New belts. $60.

5. Oil and filters. $100.

6. Wheel alignment. $60.

7. Transmission service $140.

8. Brake pads and or shoes. $160.

9. RWC inspection. $100.

10. Six months rego $400.

Total $1,960 (no labour) round up to an even $2,000.

Any car I ever sell has the above magic ten points.

Add whatever brand or age of car to the above and the minimum price is $2001.

Go figure.

cisco
QLD, 12337 posts
27 Feb 2011 11:31PM
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MIKO said...




Might cost a bit more than 10 k


Sold an original one of those in 1987, Orange, full stickers, 253, 4 speed for $4,500.

seafever17
WA, 360 posts
27 Feb 2011 9:31PM
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I drove a Getz a couple of years ago when they first came out. It was a cheap hire car provided by work. They go great and the fuel economy is awesome. In a world where the roads where only populated by Getz sized cars it would do a treat.
I can still remember the feeling of vulnerability as i looked UP and out of the window and admired the spinning chrome of the wheel nuts on the truck rotating 2 feet away from me.
No thanks. Not for me and certainly not for my daughter. Upsize a bit. You will feel better about it. So will she.



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