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Whats your favourite new toy!

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Created by Cassa > 9 months ago, 4 Mar 2009
Cassa
WA, 1305 posts
4 Mar 2009 6:18AM
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Its not new but it saves me thousands over a year, every home should have one!

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
4 Mar 2009 9:15AM
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Ok, I'll bite...what is it

manicskier
VIC, 772 posts
4 Mar 2009 9:46AM
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Could be a still

555
892 posts
4 Mar 2009 8:20AM
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Could be a pressure pot paint sprayer...

busterwa
3777 posts
4 Mar 2009 8:36AM
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is it somthin to do with brewing beer or wiskey?

Dawn Patrol
WA, 1991 posts
4 Mar 2009 9:13AM
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He's makin Moonshine

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
4 Mar 2009 11:50AM
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bong?

GypsyDrifter
WA, 2371 posts
4 Mar 2009 9:59AM
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Saves Money?
I want 2 !!!

555
892 posts
4 Mar 2009 10:18AM
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It's a scale model of one of those fancy negative pressure odourless composting toilets - saves thousands a year in water and sewage charges.

GypsyDrifter
WA, 2371 posts
4 Mar 2009 10:21AM
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555 said...

It's a scale model of one of those fancy negative pressure odourless composting toilets - saves thousands a year in water and sewage charges.


So your saying I have to go!!!

In the middle of the lounge room

arancini
WA, 373 posts
4 Mar 2009 5:16PM
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its a device for manufacturing and installing skirting boards, he just hasnt got it working yet.

Mark _australia
WA, 22285 posts
4 Mar 2009 6:15PM
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I guess seeing as though possession of a STILL is illegal in WA then it would not be one of them that Cassa posted in full view of the whole world

BTW, you'll note I said "possession" ....you dont' even have to use it or intend to use it.

Bristol
ACT, 343 posts
4 Mar 2009 8:23PM
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Cassa said...

Its not new but it saves me thousands over a year, every home should have one!

Could I fit my mother-in-law in it? That would save me heaps.

Richiefish
QLD, 5610 posts
4 Mar 2009 7:27PM
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industrial strength cappuccino machine ????

Cassa
WA, 1305 posts
4 Mar 2009 7:13PM
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MMM interesting comments, but it is used for making essential oils, and soap,.... and distilled water
But I do believe it can be used for making alcohol, of which all the ingredients are available at your local brew shop, why this is so I dont know, because brewing alcohol is illegal in Australia, believe me I'm only making lots of soap!!! huge savings to be made!

Mark _australia
WA, 22285 posts
4 Mar 2009 7:15PM
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No brewing is legal everywhere.

Distilling is illegal.

stribo
QLD, 1628 posts
4 Mar 2009 8:15PM
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Have you seen "fight club" cassa ?

Cassa
WA, 1305 posts
4 Mar 2009 7:17PM
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No whats in it ?

Mark _australia
WA, 22285 posts
4 Mar 2009 7:26PM
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stribo said...

Have you seen "fight club" cassa ?


I have, yet I am also confused by your question Stribs? Then again I'm a bit dim...

hoop
1979 posts
4 Mar 2009 7:26PM
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What's the difference between brewing and distilling? The end product is still alcohol isn't it ?

stribo
QLD, 1628 posts
4 Mar 2009 8:28PM
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Well what makes the best soap?

Mark _australia
WA, 22285 posts
4 Mar 2009 7:32PM
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Stribs I'm still lost. I guess I don't wanna know the answer

Hoop: I'm no chemist but brewing is yeast plus sugar makes alcohol. Will never be stronger than about 15% at the end cos all the yeast is killed off by it's own by product (alcolhol) when it reaches that strength. Anyway brewinf=g or fermenting will only ever make beer or wine.

Distilling gets that wine or whatever and boils it so the alcohol boils off and is collected so you get a 15% product making a 40% or more product.

You can brew your own beer or ferment to make wine but not distill to make spirits.

Cassa
WA, 1305 posts
4 Mar 2009 7:42PM
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Obtain or build a still (the apparatus used for distilling). You can purchase one specially designed for distilling essential oils; these generally cost a couple hundred dollars or more, but if you plan on doing a lot of distilling and you're not particularly mechanically inclined, this is probably the way to go. If you want to try building a still, you've got plenty of room for creativity - there are thousands of still designs, and even today, many stills are homemade. The key components of a still are:
The heat source or furnace, which is used to boil the water. Direct fire, a fire built under the retort is the oldest method for heating the still. Today, we can also use gas, such as propane or butane, and electricity. Fuel costs are a major factor when considering a heat source for you distiller;
The holding tank or retort, which holds both the water and, just above the water on a grate or false bottom - picture a vegetable steamer - the plant material to be distilled;
The condenser, which collects the steam and cools it, usually by piping it through a tube immersed in cold water, and...
The separator, which separates the essential oil from the water vapor. The separator, or Essencier, is one of the most important pieces of apparatus a distiller can have. This enables the distiller to separate the essential oils from the distillate in a passive manner.
Harvest your raw material. The quantity of essential oils contained in a plant varies over the course of the plant's development, so it is essential to harvest at the right time. This will depend on the type of plant, so you need to do some research to determine when to harvest. It is also critical to harvest the plants correctly - careless handling, harvesting the wrong parts, even harvesting at the wrong time of day can reduce the quantity and quality of the essential oils. Again, research the plant you wish to distill. If you're buying harvested material, you don't have much control over the harvesting process; look for plants that appear healthy and undamaged, and ask the seller when they were harvested. Generally plants that are in whole form (not crushed or powdered) are best.
Dry the plant material. Drying reduces the amount of oil in each plant, but can greatly increase your yield per batch because you will be able to fit more material into each batch. Drying should be done slowly and NOT in direct sunlight. You can choose not to dry your plant material. Commercially plants such as lavender and peppermint may be allowed to dry in the field after cutting for a day or so. The ideal drying method varies from plant to plant, but in general you should not overheat the plants - drying in the shade or even in a dark room minimizes the oil lost - you should not overdry them, and you must not allow the plants to become wet again before distillation. Distill as soon as possible after drying.
Add water to the tank of your still. Use clean water, ideally filtered or distilled and as soft as possible. If you're using a manufactured still, follow the manufacturer's direction. Otherwise, simply make sure you have enough water in the still to complete the distillation; depending on the plant and on the quantity, distillation can take anywhere from a half-hour to six hours or more after the water boils. Be sure that the water level is close to, but not touching, the false bottom that will hold the plant material. If you are performing a hydrodistillation (this is useful for delicate flowers or powdered roots, bark or wood) You will need to have your plant material free floating IN the water.
Add your plant material and pack it tightly in the still. You do not need to chop or cut the plant material, and doing so will cause you to lose some of the oils. The plant material should rest on the false bottom or grate above the water and should touch the sides of the still as little as possible. The layer of plant material can be quite thick as long as it is below the steam outlet (a couple inches below the outlet for a small still, a foot below for a large one).
Close the still and boil the water. Most plants will release their essential oils at 100 degrees Celsius or 212 degrees Fahrenheit, the normal boiling point of water.
Keep an eye on the still. After a while the distillate should begin to come through your condenser and into your separator. The process should be fairly hands-off, but you will want to ensure that you do not run out of water in your still. Depending on the length of the distillation process, you may also need to change the water in the condenser so that the cooling process continues to work. Follow the instructions for the particular plant you are distilling.
Filter the collected oil (optional). Once your distillation is complete you may filter the oil through cheesecloth or similar dry cotton fabric. Ensure that the cloth is dry and clean - detergent residues as well as dirt can contaminate the oil.
Pour the oil into a container for storage. Do this as quickly as possible. Most essential oils can be kept for at least two years, but some have extraordinary shelf lives. To maximize the useful life of your oil, keep it in a dark glass bottle or stainless steel container. Use a clean funnel to pour the oil into the container, and make sure the container is impeccably clean before pouring the oil into it. Store in a cool, dark place.
Decide what to do with the hydrosol. The distillation process produces the essential oil and a hydrosol, the term for the water that has been distilled and which collects in the separator. Some hydrosols are usable themselves - rose water or lavender water, for example. If you do not wish to save the hydrosol you can pour it into the still for the next batch (if you will be distilling another batch immediately) or you can discard it.


This should keep you clean..... my wife tells me I am a dirty old man .,,, thats what the still is used for

well maybe..

Richiefish
QLD, 5610 posts
4 Mar 2009 8:50PM
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you are allowed to distil booze here in QLD. (I think) but only up to a certain amount ie personal use. all the home brew shops sell the flavour essence to add to your home made ethanol to make it taste like bourbon or rum etc.

ammendment. It seems in aus you can have a 5 litre still (for water or essential oils)wank wank. In NZ 25 litres !! The one I used made about 20 litres.

stribo
QLD, 1628 posts
4 Mar 2009 9:31PM
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cwamit
WA, 1194 posts
4 Mar 2009 9:17PM
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ah good ol distilling... i recall back in my days in Switzerland working for cousins how we picked the cherry's from the home tree placed it all in a sealed container to let it ferment and then 6 months later distill it in a home made distiller out of copper i think , the schnapps could be added to tea, fondu or used to keep the fondu hot... 65 percent if i recall.. kept me warm in winter. mm funny i recall that part of my stay but the rest of my 11 months was a blur....

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
4 Mar 2009 11:35PM
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Cassa said...

MMM interesting comments, but it is used for making essential oils, and soap,.... and distilled water
But I do believe it can be used for making alcohol, of which all the ingredients are available at your local brew shop, why this is so I dont know, because brewing alcohol is illegal in Australia, believe me I'm only making lots of soap!!! huge savings to be made!


So, how does this save you thousands?
Essential oils = olive oil about $30 per yr (essential for fish'n'chips)

Soap = $0 per yr (if Matthew McConaughy can get away without it, then so can I!)

Distilled water = $0 per yr (I recycle my urine)

Soooo by my calculations, you're saving more like $30 per year?!?

Cassa
WA, 1305 posts
4 Mar 2009 10:04PM
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maybe Im not quite truethfull about its use
700ml bourbon under 10 bucks
700ml tiquela under 8 bucks
700ml rum liquere 10 bucks
some serious savings here
the more you drink the more you save!!

GypsyDrifter
WA, 2371 posts
5 Mar 2009 11:20AM
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stribo said...

Have you seen "fight club" cassa ?


arrr..soap!!!

Cassa
WA, 1305 posts
5 Mar 2009 9:26PM
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arrrrr

japester
VIC, 63 posts
8 Mar 2009 11:43PM
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uh guys, just to remove the false information that is being spread around here. Go RTFM [0].

Distilling is not illegal in Australia. Alcohol, is however, a taxed commodity. The ATO want their cut. It is not illegal to possess a still of capacity up to 5L. It is only illegal to distil alcohol without a license.

[0] http://www.ato.gov.au/businesses/content.asp?doc=/content/66216.htm&sf=1



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