i am ready to give up i think on this...... gestalt........this however is just not to say there were no bracing at all in the wtc lightweight core.
so....we have went from basically there was NO core to a LIGHTWEIGHT core.
and where is the evidence to support this claim the 47 columns were lightweight!
again look at the video/photos from the doc 911 mysteries and you will see these massive 47 columns protruding from upper floor while building is still under construction.
what you are saying could not be further from the truth.
unfortunately, most people believe what they want to believe and not what the evidence presents itself as.
please no more on this.... its too frustrating.
yeah, i am ready to give up too.
lighweight refers to the construction type.
so lots of bits bolted or nailed or welded together ie. steel or timber is termed lightweight construction.
masonary or concrete construction is not lightweight construction.
depends what country you are in as to construction type and also height of building and class of building and constrution time as to which method is used.
anyways i prefer designing them and not crunching numbers. i leave that up to engineers.
over and out.
With the revelation of CLIMATEGATE then GLACIERGATE and now HURRICANEGATE, I wonder what IPCC sponsored deception will be uncovered next? Some of the contributors to this thread have become unusually quiet...
10 mins to expose the global warming scam....http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=8514
... rest of series can be found on youtube or infowars
I was going to stay out of this one...but
I had an in-depth chat yesterday with a environmental consultant who is also a geologist...he prepares coastal hazard reports, site analysis, geothermal reports, land contaminant research etc...
Just to say that I learned alot, and if you believe everything you read (or watch, re; Ewwtube) on the innernetty, you'll never get the facts right. There has been alot of research done (all funded by some form of orginisation with their own agendas) for & against global warming or climate change, and it will be a long time (not in our lifetimes) before any research is totally conclusive.
Honestly, we should be focusing on reducing our energy needs, or investing in alternative means of power before we completely bottom out our fossil fuels, and stop being such a wasteful society...the planet will take care of itself. We live in an ever 'evolving' eco-system, whether we believe it or not, and we have our part to play...
...my dog doesn't 'sh!t where she eats', neither should we!
Sailhack, you are right on. Clearly the world we live in isn't going to kill us one day with massive waves inundating the coast and the sky turning green and the atmosphere becoming poisonous.
So the scaremongering is counter productive.
The lack of review and sensitivity of proponents of climate disruption is counter productive.
Why put out the fear that the CBDs of New York, London, Sydney will be underwater in 30 years time when its not true?
Clearly we need to reduce our dependence on fossil fuels. But if that reduction comes at the cost of higher food prices that cause starvation and death then we must review it.
The biggest human impact on the Earth is the sheer number of humans. We need to develop non violent and non lethal ways to reduce the numbers of humans so that everyone here has a reasonable life that does not permanently degrade the natural environment.
gestalt......there are plenty of facts in the preceeding pages.
along with plenty more LIES in the preceeding pages.
a good tip i have found out about life.
never trust a liar.
especially when they have have been caught lying more than once!
or to be more correct hundred's of times!
now what's that saying i heard George W Bush make. [from doc 911 in plane site]
fool me once.....shame on you
fool me twice.....shame on ME......for being continually fooled!
this saying has real substance to it, if you think about it.
if you tell the sheeple there is poison in the water [fluoride] or poison [mercury] in the vaccines and they still continue to take.........well, i will encourage them to drink up the fluoro water and to take the witches brew of ingredients in vaccines so as they can be safe from disease!!
this is why there is true meaning in fool me twice....shame on ME.
petermac...give it up man.
Soooo....you heard Bush say that? Any by your own admission (and drawn out explanation), if he didn't say exactly that, does that make you a liar?
...the correct quote from G.W. Bush is-
"There's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee -- that says, fool me once, shame on --shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again." --Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
(I love bushisms btw)
Just a friendly tip - if you're gonna quote someone - firstly, make sure they're actually worth quoting - & secondly, get the quote right.
sailhack....give it up man.
word for word i could not remember exactly. [big deal]
that's why i did not use inverted coma's.
not being able to remember word for word, does this make me a liar....get real.
the saying when i first heard it, took me a while to get.[understand]
and a good morning to you to.
no such word.....unless you spell /think likes a bugs bunny.
now for the last time...and a good morning to you to.
sailhack...does that make you a liar?
no sailhack i am not a liar.
who i ask is the one getting personal.
Haha...I could have some fun with you Peter, but I'm all out of sarcasm, being friday and all. I'll leave this thread alone now, as many other members have wisely decided to do.
I'll leave you with another quote you might like-
Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Have a good weekend. Hope the wind (outside) is blowing!
sailhack....Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
lets see liar,idiot sure you don't want to go for the triple.
i try not to sink into this gutter talk, but what the ...k
Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
on another thread... when is to much to much.
Have a good weekend. Hope the wind (outside) is blowing!