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Forums > General Discussion   Shooting the breeze...

earth is still

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Created by petermac33 > 9 months ago, 8 Nov 2009
petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
8 Nov 2009 8:05PM
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some will think i am mad for believing that,

the earth is stationary + the sun revolves around the planets.

yes its the opposite of what we are taught at school, but it kind of makes sense to me.

if it was true the earth spins on its axxis every 24hrs + rotates around the sun every year then a couple of things just dont add up.

first,if we are moving so fast it does not appear to be the case.

2nd if we are moving so fast then the atmosphere will have to be moving at exactly the same speed as the rock we are standing on. when you throw up a ball, if no wind the ball will come down in same place. highly unlikely both could be moving at the same speed.

thirdly, why do the stars not move. if the earth is spinning 180 degrees every 12 hrs on its axxis then a star would appear just above the horizon + after 12 hrs move 180 degrees +then disappear.

correct me if i am wrong but i cannot see the stars move.

i am not conviced either way what is true or not.

a few years ago i heard a very religious scholar eric jon phelps say the earth is stationary + made these very points i have made.

http://www.reformation.org/stationary-earth.html


FBRoy
NSW, 101 posts
8 Nov 2009 11:11PM
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No, the earth is not completely stationary! Are you crazy?

It can't be stationary as it revolves around me, as does the rest of the universe.

Any other interpretation of the facts don't add up!

Thank you.

nebbian
WA, 6277 posts
8 Nov 2009 8:15PM
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petermac33 said...

correct me if i am wrong but i cannot see the stars move.



Yep, they do move across the sky, about as fast as the sun and moon do. Which is once round us every day.

In fact you can tell the time from the position of the southern cross:
http://users.hunterlink.net.au/~madms/cruxstuff.html

sandman
WA, 432 posts
8 Nov 2009 8:26PM
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This post is so stupid is is barely even worth replying but to say the stats dont track across the sky... geez

Have you ever seen a star trail photograph?

Very long exposure time (4+hrs) looking at the sky, this is the result...

petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
8 Nov 2009 8:35PM
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the southern cross seems to be in same position each time i look.every hour it should move 8.5percent. 12 times 8.5 equals 100 for full 180 degrees movement.

maybe i just did not notice the stars were moving that fast.

will have a good look next opportunity.

choco
SA, 4096 posts
8 Nov 2009 11:15PM
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When i use my telescope the stars/moon move out of view within seconds,plus the earth isn't round it's flat

Trant
NSW, 601 posts
8 Nov 2009 11:47PM
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petermac33 said...
http://www.reformation.org/stationary-earth.html


That's a great website, gave me a lot of laughs. Thanks for the link

Skid
QLD, 1499 posts
8 Nov 2009 10:59PM
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FBRoy said...

No, the earth is not completely stationary! Are you crazy?

It can't be stationary as it revolves around me, as does the rest of the universe.

Any other interpretation of the facts don't add up!

Thank you.




FBRoy, you are soooo wrong!
The universe revolves around my ex wife. Not only that, the sun shines out of her *****!
Any doubts? just ask her.....

kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
9 Nov 2009 12:31AM
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Great site - hard to pick what's funniest but I liked New World Demons Unmasked at LAST!!! and then you hover over the link and it goes to .../mexicans

busterwa
3777 posts
8 Nov 2009 10:37PM
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i bet you think lady gaga is a hermaphrodite aswellll

Pugwash
WA, 7673 posts
8 Nov 2009 11:06PM
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Choco is right, the earth is definately flat... otherwise those on the bottom half would fall off...

petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
9 Nov 2009 4:01AM
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i played tennis tonight for a few hrs + picked out one star + guess what it appeared not to move at all. it should have moved in 2hrs 17 degrees by my counting.

not heard any info from doctor,maybe he can save me from my scepticism.

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
9 Nov 2009 9:17AM
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petermac33 said...

i played tennis tonight for a few hrs + picked out one star + guess what it appeared not to move at all. it should have moved in 2hrs 17 degrees by my counting.

not heard any info from doctor,maybe he can save me from my scepticism.


I think you're meant to wish upon a star after picking it out....maybe this is where you're going wrong. Otherwise get a gps and go sailing.....

WindySimon
WA, 47 posts
9 Nov 2009 10:47AM
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omg i totally never thought i would learn so much about the universe on an internet based windsurfing forum...

I have only ever learnt about conspiracies and who done its... ie. 911...

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
9 Nov 2009 10:58AM
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WindySimon said...

omg i totally never thought i would learn so much about the universe on an internet based windsurfing forum...

I have only ever learnt about conspiracies and who done its... ie. 911...


Yea windsurfers know everything apparently......

JayBee
NSW, 714 posts
9 Nov 2009 2:21PM
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1 - "if we are moving so fast it does not appear to be the case"
This is a subjective opinion, not science. When I am in my car doing 100km/hr, the handbrake does not appear to be moving at all. It is always to be found by my elbow irrespective of how fast I am moving. It "appears not to be moving" but I know it is, at 100km/hr, and anyone standing on the side of the road can see so.

2 - The atmosphere does not appear to be moving. Throw your rock high enough and it will move. The jetstream is very high indeed.
And again with the car analogy - I am in my car doing 100km/hr, and I toss a coin. It does not slam into the back of the car. It "appears to fall straight back down" and land in my hand. To someone standing on the side of the road the coin will have travelled some meters forward

3 - Stars moving.
This is relative to the angle of the star above the horizon. A star right above the southern pole will not move relative to the south pole - It will always be at 90 degrees. As you move away from the south pole that same star will inscribe an ellipse.
If you choose a star at 90 degrees to the equator it will move 15 degrees every hour.
Try it with a globe and see for yourself.

Love the theory, but the Flat Earth theory is a much more robust arguement.

JB

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
9 Nov 2009 11:40AM
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Thats like, Im sitting still but because the earth is rotating I am moving now thats science!

tobes
NSW, 1000 posts
9 Nov 2009 3:20PM
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kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
9 Nov 2009 6:12PM
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petermac33 said...

some will think i am mad for believing that,

2nd if we are moving so fast then the atmosphere will have to be moving at exactly the same speed as the rock we are standing on. when you throw up a ball, if no wind the ball will come down in same place. highly unlikely both could be moving at the same speed.

...very religious scholar ...


Yes, you would be mad to discount 400 years of proven science based on one crackpot web site. To pick one example of millions: to figure out how to fire the rockets to land on the right spot on the moon it took Buzz Aldrin 2 years to write out the mathematical formula (filling many many blackboards) and to solve it. He did nothing else for 2 years before that trip, and he got it spot on. Science. Wins.

2nd. To add to jaybee, (another example of millions) heavy artillery has to compensate for the earth's spin. When they came up with guns that would fire 15kms or more, they started missing - always in the same direction when fired in one direction. Eventually figured the earth was turning under the projectile. Now they calculate for it, and don't miss.

very religious scholar = oxymoron (or just moron?)

NotWal
QLD, 7428 posts
9 Nov 2009 6:33PM
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kiteboy dave said...
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very religious scholar = oxymoron (or just moron?)



That's the quality of thinking behind "Intelligent design", and they want to call it science.



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