k Rudd gives up on leadership aspirations

Yes she's the first Australian politician to try to claim local credibility by supporting a football team. HA,HA

Turnbull might as well be Labor - besides, he's rich enough.

Exactly. Try, and fail...

By HA,HA... is that like haaaaa, as in errrrrr, as in errrrrr yuck... Rather than ha ha ha, as in funny Or, is it ha ha ha, as in she is a laughing stock Just curious She will win tomorrow, and we'll all be subjected to more lies, more lack of integrity, more deceit...

In the end does it matter who wins today? Both have the same policies of big government, big taxing, big borrowing and big spending. Neither have the guts to deal with real issues facing Australians.

As much as I want vile Gillard gone, it makes little difference. Rudd, Gillard, so what? Rudd was aweful as PM and Gillard is aweful.

2013 - she is finished, and many of these fools will be out on their arse. Shame for us their retirement benefits are so generous.

Personally I think Gillard handled the contest very well. When she spoke about why they deposed Rudd in 2010 it appeared she was talking truthfully and with a bit of emotion.

She should do this more often as normally she appears to be talking from a script she has not written. She should have made a similar speech back then and things may have worked out better for her and the federal ALP overall.

Thankfully Rudd is finished for a while. Though I said earlier it doesn't make much difference, there is some difference. Rudd was an aweful prime minister while Gillard is not.

He is not finished, as I said in my previous post he continues his work at channel 7 but wears a fake beard and pretends to cook

I meant, that ALL political leaders try to associate themselves with football teams and that your premise was wrong ....yeah?

And I meant standing there holding a Western Dogs football jumper after stating there's more chance of me becoming full-forward for the Western Bulldogs than there is of me seizing the job of prime minister from Kevin Rudd during the re-contest is just plain stupid and was incredibly poor judgement.

To me, it screams of lack of integrity!

Lots of people repeat this as if it is a good thing, and the same people seem to then also bemoan red tape and over regulation.

Juliar was also spruking the point the other day and then listed a whole bunch of bills passed that the labour party never took to the election.

From what I can see much of the legislation has been passed to appease the minority partners in the labour coalition - carbon taxes and mining taxes for the Greens, pokie trials for the independants etc. How much of this would have been put before an ALP controlled Parliament ?

Lots of legislation is not something that should be applauded, unless it is simplifying and streamlining government. I would rather see 1 bill passed and 200 tax payer funded bureaucrats sacked than 200 bills passed and an additional 2,000 bureaucrats employed.

I am sure 3 of the 200-odd bills passed since 2010 were :
introduce pink batts scheme
suspend pink bats scheme
cancel pink bats scheme

I assume somebody is proud of that being another 3 for the total ??

Is there a list somewhere of the 200 bills passed since 2010 ? (plus how many have since been ammended) so we could look at the quality, not just the quantity ?

Very true Paradox.

We vote for our local member, and that's it. The party with the most local members form government, and so on

The Prime Minister is just that .... the first Minister.

If we wanted to have a President, we should have voted yes in the republic referendum. But don't get started on that. Next we will be discussing longer trading hours and daylight saving

uh oh they're not gettin the message on how to sell themselves .POINT OUT YOUR STRENGTHS GUYS RATHER THAN THEIR DEFICIENCIES particularly when you're runnin the show . Just watched Stephen Jones going head to head with JA (good to see him finally trundled out for a hit out BTW even tho its on ABC news 24 and me and a couple of other people were watching ,a good sidecourt watch nevertheless) first thing Jones does is criticise Conservative coalition ,finally gets around to pointing out govt's achievements in legislation in tricky environment ,could have done better IMO

oh well just saw DR no bang on about the people choosing the prime minister (hah what a joke maybe has his finger on the pulse tho realising that the swinging voter is a doofus that thhinks we have an american presidential system see OMG thread)

The benefits of an open mind. It bleats the hell out of this:



Look familiar?

As for flip-flopping, I won't be voting for your Labs for a long long time. They digust me, they make my skin crawl and they make me feel sick. Bunch of brain deads... And, BTW, just because I don't like red right now, doesn't mean that I like blue or green or any other colourful party for that matter.