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worse $80 bottle of wine ever

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Created by FlySurfer > 9 months ago, 29 May 2011
FlySurfer
NSW, 4453 posts
29 May 2011 4:49PM
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Had a sip just after opening it, and I had to spit it out... so I waited another 20 minutes for it to breath, sip > spit. Waited another 30minutes sip > spit.

WTF!

$80 to mess up my Saturday night BBQ.

busterwa
3777 posts
29 May 2011 2:51PM
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Just smash it back like a warm bottle of emu export

subasurf
WA, 2154 posts
29 May 2011 3:06PM
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I've got to ask though, why the **** did you spend $80 on a bottle of wine in the first place :p

I guess growing up near margs told me that a cheap cleanskin can be as good as a $100 bottle

pweedas
WA, 4642 posts
29 May 2011 3:21PM
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How come the name didn't alert you to the fact that it was not $80 well spent?
Something named "anything Folly" would sound like russian roulette to me.

Next time if you want risky, go for something cheap like "PLONKO, the WINE OF EXTINCTION"

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
29 May 2011 5:37PM
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Sounds like it has gone off. The cork probably failed. In all fairness, it was given roughly 11-12 years to fail....

Or not stored in correct conditions....

If you bought it recently, you can probably get away with returning it....

If you bought it a long time ago... and stored it correctly, try contacting the winery.... (???)...

Just some thoughts...

FlySurfer
NSW, 4453 posts
29 May 2011 5:49PM
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Well, I guess I just wanted to try something new... and a refined palate precludes some for the lesser contenders for my Saturday night BBQ.

So from now on I'm sticking with Barossa wines, there's just something in the soil there that makes the wine taste good.

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
29 May 2011 6:32PM
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Better off going for a Penfold wine. They have very consistent quality control and never sell a bad bottle of wine.

We usually by Penfolds as their prices are reasonable and its good to drink.

kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
29 May 2011 7:07PM
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How much disposable income do you need to waste 80 bucks on a bottle of red to drink with an average saturday night BBQ?


pepe47
WA, 1381 posts
29 May 2011 5:12PM
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Sounds like the name fit the bottle.
nice watch by the way

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
29 May 2011 7:43PM
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was it a screw top? if not ,that,ll learn ya

no need to spend 80 hard earned on a nice wine , go the $15 Job next time and piss that up against the wall

GalahOnTheBay
NSW, 4188 posts
29 May 2011 8:02PM
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Are you sure you sipped the wine and not the soy sauce?

I never saw the point of big $$$ wines. For those who like that stuff great, but I sure can't taste the difference...

SomeOtherGuy
NSW, 807 posts
29 May 2011 8:09PM
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pweedas said...

How come the name didn't alert you to the fact that it was not $80 well spent?
Something named "anything Folly" would sound like russian roulette to me.

Next time if you want risky, go for something cheap like "PLONKO, the WINE OF EXTINCTION"


Where can I get some PLONKO, pweedas? It sounds exactly my style...

Gorgo
VIC, 4982 posts
29 May 2011 8:11PM
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A mate and his dad are professional tasters. They're the serious business and legends in the tea and coffee industries as well as doing quality control for breweries and wine makers.

They reckon that the prime price point for a bottle of wine is $16. An $80 wine will be better, but it won't be 5 times better or even twice as good.

You can get perfectly nice wines for $5. The extra money buys you "character" and "interest". When handled properly and combined with the right food that character and interest can be a wonderful thing. Most of the time it's pointless.

adolf
1862 posts
29 May 2011 6:14PM
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Gorgo said...

A mate and his dad are professional tasters. They're the serious business and legends in the tea and coffee industries as well as doing quality control for breweries and wine makers.

They reckon that the prime price point for a bottle of wine is $16. An $80 wine will be better, but it won't be 5 times better or even twice as good.


I have a mate who was head wine buyer for Coles for many years, he's now based in Hong Kong and he told me exactly the same thing.

Australian Wine is very good value at $15- $20.

I'm a computer nerd and was just a few points off from being accepted into M.E.N.S.A. and I equated this to HDMI cables.

Audiophiles and audio aficionados can pay up to $1000+ for a metre of gold plated cable, but it ain't going to be anywhere near 100 times better than a $10 cable.

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
29 May 2011 8:23PM
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Yeah, we did a taste test on Christmas Day a few years back;
$65 Verve Clicquot v's $15-17 Yellowglen Vintage. We concluded the Verve was better, but maybe 7-10% better, but 4 times the price.

Dinner party idea (that we have done a few times);
Get 3 or 4 decent bottles of wine (circa $25).... If you like Shiraz from a region, maybe get 2-3 from that region, and 1 or 2 from another region. Bottles stay in the brown paper, label them as A, B, C, and D (if you have a fourth). And you declare which ones you like the best, and try and pick which one is which.

1 person takes the caps off, and another person "shuffles" the bottles, and labels them ABCD... So nobody actually knows for sure what is in each.... Blind testing/tasting.... Requires 3 or 4 glasses each, and you need to keep them in order, left to right, and refill from correct bottle.... it's pretty easy.

cRAZY Canuk
NSW, 2528 posts
29 May 2011 8:32PM
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^ That's awsome - I'm using it.

If it was a cork bottle take it back to the bottle'o get them to taste it and if it's corked see if you can get a bottle of the same or something else. Doesn't always work but you never know.

Just cause it costs $80 doesn't always mean it's good, i've had an expensive bottle or two that didn't live up to expectations - sucks but you learn from it, I'm trying to get a list of wines I drink I like with pricing.

gs12
WA, 399 posts
29 May 2011 6:41PM
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FlySurfer said...

there's just something in the soil there that makes the wine taste good.


you sure it's not antifreeze like they did in Austria some time ago? ... everybody loved the taste until they found out what it was

Hmmmm Antifreeze ... (in Homer Simpson voice)

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
29 May 2011 9:03PM
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gs12 said...

FlySurfer said...

there's just something in the soil there that makes the wine taste good.


you sure it's not antifreeze like they did in Austria some time ago? ... everybody loved the taste until they found out what it was

Hmmmm Antifreeze ... (in Homer Simpson voice)


" Dont mention the war! , I did but i think i got away with it ." { JC }

j murray
SA, 947 posts
29 May 2011 9:33PM
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dispense with the wine.........just spend the $80 directly on the bird

That will give you a better return You Plonka You!!!

japie
NSW, 6933 posts
29 May 2011 10:28PM
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I have some really good advice on wine.

1 If you are an expert you are probably a complete wanker.

2 If you like the taste revert to the wanker( it can take the blame)

3 Never buy a bottle of red for more than $10

4 Never drink more than one bottle.

Remember, beer is made for the good folk, wine is what the tossers rap on about when they have no character.

FlySurfer
NSW, 4453 posts
30 May 2011 12:01AM
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You don't know what you is missing, until you's tried it.

I can tell you this 100% sure as 2 + 2 is 4. $85 bottle of whisky can be up to 10 times better than a $30 bottle, for my taste buds.

Where do you get a $5 bottle of red, the cheapest in Dan Murphy's is ~$8?
But < $12 on a bottle is that cheap $hit fruity, sugary stuff with undeveloped flavours that gives you a headache...
I think the sweet point is ~$20... one of my favourites was Gramps shiraz 2006 ($16), but the 2009 isn't as good.

Oh another thing vintage Australian wine is crap... reserve and grand reserve just doesn't mean much here.
But the ~5 yo good stuff is world class, and overseas Australian wines have corks.

PS: the cork was fine, and I like cork with lead seal; must have gone *bad from storage or it just tasted weird... Mrs said it was drinkable but I put her off it.

dirtyharry
WA, 444 posts
29 May 2011 10:11PM
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adolf said...
I'm a computer nerd and was just a few points off from being accepted into M.E.N.S.A. and I equated this to HDMI cables.

Audiophiles and audio aficionados can pay up to $1000+ for a metre of gold plated cable, but it ain't going to be anywhere near 100 times better than a $10 cable.


I'm pretty thick and had to Google what MENSA is, but even I know it's called the law of diminishing returns

bjw
QLD, 3623 posts
30 May 2011 10:03AM
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Thats unAustralian

Goon comes in a bag, is cheaper, wont break when you drop it and you can use the empty bag for so much more after youve finished with it, including a great drunk pillow.

I hope youve learnt your lesson.

Gorgo
VIC, 4982 posts
30 May 2011 11:07AM
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FlySurfer said...
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Where do you get a $5 bottle of red, the cheapest in Dan Murphy's is ~$8?
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Cheapest reds at Dan Murphy are $2.99 a bottle in half dozens. When the wine glut was in full swing you could buy clean skins for $45 a dozen. We liked them.

Trant
NSW, 601 posts
30 May 2011 11:20AM
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Gorgo said...

FlySurfer said...
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Where do you get a $5 bottle of red, the cheapest in Dan Murphy's is ~$8?
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Cheapest reds at Dan Murphy are $2.99 a bottle in half dozens. When the wine glut was in full swing you could buy clean skins for $45 a dozen. We liked them.


It was $2 a bottle for clear skins down here at one point which made me wonder if it was cheaper to put wine on my cornflakes instead of milk.

I have a 'boutique' bottle shop down the road with a nice selection of German, Austrian, English and boutique Australian beers. Generally around $10 for 500ml bottle and so I don't feel cheated if it tastes bad and I throw it away.

GalahOnTheBay
NSW, 4188 posts
30 May 2011 12:04PM
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bjw said...

Thats unAustralian

Goon comes in a bag, is cheaper, wont break when you drop it and you can use the empty bag for so much more after youve finished with it, including a great drunk pillow.

I hope youve learnt your lesson.


cue the game show music - Goon of Fortune!

Does it get more Australian than this? Goon of fortune around the hills hoist on Australia day



PS: Don't try this at home kids, it will end in tears. Trust me... [}:)]

subasurf
WA, 2154 posts
30 May 2011 10:10AM
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japie said...
wine is what the tossers rap on about when they have no character.



I bet you use BRUT deodorant and watch V8 Super Taxis

Wineman
NSW, 1412 posts
30 May 2011 2:08PM
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I feel your pain Flyblownboy, but try and ignore the comments from those with a chip on their shoulder about liking things that taste good, be it food, wine or beer.

Life is too short to drink crap beer OR crap wine.
My base point for beer is Coopers, then I look about for boutique or craft beers.

FlySurfer said...

You don't know what you is missing, until you's tried it.
I can tell you this 100% sure as 2 + 2 is 4. $85 bottle of whisky can be up to 10 times better than a $30 bottle, for my taste buds.

Spot on.

FlySurfer said...
Oh another thing vintage Australian wine is crap... reserve and grand reserve just doesn't mean much here.
But the ~5 yo good stuff is world class, and overseas Australian wines have corks.

Disagree. It's horses for courses. Some wines are made to keep & will if treated right.
I have some 20 year old reds that are drinking superbly - old wines are an acquired taste.
Not long ago I had a 1982 McWilliams Elizabeth (Hunter Valley semillon - a white for the unknowing), shared with a few mid 20 year old dudes interested in learning - and it knocked their socks off for style & substance.

96% of wine is consumed within 3 days of purchase - so makers do not need to make most wine for keeps. Consult the maker or a knowledgeable retailer for those to keep.

FlySurfer said...
PS: the cork was fine, and I like cork with lead seal; must have gone *bad from storage or it just tasted weird... Mrs said it was drinkable but I put her off it.

Screw caps are the best scientific seal there is for wine.
I'm sure Microsoft business model was based on the cork as a sealer for wine model - it has always had a known 8% failure rate.

Edit - that's far too high for Microsoft methinks

Although the cork "looked" fine, the mildest dose of 'cork taint' (which is a mould in the base cork) will strip or mask the fruit flavours & make a dull uninteresting wine - but drinkable to some.
Heavy dose will smell like wet hessian & have a bitter aftertaste.

Mobydisc said...

Better off going for a Penfold wine. They have very consistent quality control and never sell a bad bottle of wine.
We usually by Penfolds as their prices are reasonable and its good to drink.

C'mon Karl - expand your horizons - lots of good inexpensive wine to discover. [}:)]

Phew - here endeth the lesson!

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
30 May 2011 2:41PM
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Could've bought nearly 2 slabs of Coopers pale with that coin!

DavMen
NSW, 1499 posts
30 May 2011 2:45PM
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My suggestion .... if you come accross a bad wine ... eat heaps of stong bitey cheese.


ka43
NSW, 3075 posts
30 May 2011 3:55PM
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So Pete, when you hand one of us a cold Coopers after a sail does that mean we are getting the "poverty pack" stuff and you are keeping the VB's and Tooheys Red as the boutique stuff??



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