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Damn i need a light wind kite!

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Created by eppo > 9 months ago, 25 Mar 2011
eppo
WA, 9503 posts
25 Mar 2011 5:01PM
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5 days of 9-14 knot south west, I'm going nuts!!

Comparative Suggestions and why!

bjw
QLD, 3620 posts
25 Mar 2011 7:09PM
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Eppo , thats a tough one. Im sure everyone will recommend their brand, but I think you really just need more wind.

What the hell does anyone do over winter?

eppo
WA, 9503 posts
25 Mar 2011 5:27PM
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bjw said...

Eppo , thats a tough one. Im sure everyone will recommend their brand, but I think you really just need more wind.

What the hell does anyone do over winter?




Surf and grow big balls when the squalls come in!

bjw
QLD, 3620 posts
25 Mar 2011 7:38PM
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My balls get smaller in winter. Sadly.

youre right though, winter is all about surfing. How good has the surf been in nsw the last week? Hope nobody missed it.

WA Surf & Foil
WA, 250 posts
25 Mar 2011 8:32PM
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Never thought I would say it but you need to try one of the Airush Sector boards,
I have been outriding 17mt Core kites with my 12mt and a Sector 52, awesome feeling when you are flying around and most crew can't be bothered pumping up

eppo
WA, 9503 posts
25 Mar 2011 10:25PM
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WOK said...

Never thought I would say it but you need to try one of the Airush Sector boards,
I have been outriding 17mt Core kites with my 12mt and a Sector 52, awesome feeling when you are flying around and most crew can't be bothered pumping up




Hey whats the core like? Compared to - is this your first LW kite?

AKSonline
WA, 925 posts
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25 Mar 2011 11:11PM
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Hey eppo,

If you're keen to do the drive again, I'll throw the 17's in the ute and bring them into Scarbs. Light winds ahoy!

DM

Weta
WA, 893 posts
25 Mar 2011 11:46PM
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Good on Ya Darren thats all we need!! another week of hearing about the horrors of Scarbs from Eppo

AKSonline
WA, 925 posts
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26 Mar 2011 12:05AM
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Weta said...

Good on Ya Darren thats all we need!! another week of hearing about the horrors of Scarbs from Eppo


LOL. Not quite though, if he's on the 17 Core, he'll have the whole ocean to himself!

No traffic in 10 knots!

DM

eppo
WA, 9503 posts
26 Mar 2011 8:20AM
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Weta said...

Good on Ya Darren thats all we need!! another week of hearing about the horrors of Scarbs from Eppo





I'm done, rest easy Weta and true i even annoyed myself!

eppo
WA, 9503 posts
26 Mar 2011 8:21AM
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AKSonline said...

Hey eppo,

If you're keen to do the drive again, I'll throw the 17's in the ute and bring them into Scarbs. Light winds ahoy!

DM.




Yeh darren, hopefully that will happen soon. Too many wasted days of low but useable wind.

SaveTheWhales
WA, 1874 posts
26 Mar 2011 8:53AM
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As everyone is coming to understand, it is the efficiency by 'design', not the size - that can create a good light wind kite... with relaunch and speed

The 13m Epic Renagade 'Infinity' kite taken from an Iphone... yes - that is a 13m folks !!!



A bit geeky but on a TwinTip seeing is believing - over brand pimping sales yarns!

strez
QLD, 58 posts
26 Mar 2011 6:54PM
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becareful of thinking a bigger kite is going to be better most kites will fly in 9-14 knots instead look at what your riding . don't be fooled into thinking a surfboard is better either look at the rails and rocker yeah it's got more flotation but it's not very efficient . lots of companys make light wind boards but tt usually have straps that restrict weight placement . a skimboard is the go . plenty of them out there ride it strapless so you can shift your weight around . i ride a 12 torch with a skate normally but when it's light i break out a north skimfish only bloke thats gets going befor me rides a 17m2 speed3 foil with a 140 and he weights 20kgs less than me . it almost defies logic but the apparent wind generated by speed is very decieving you think your powered up till you slash a turn and you wonder where the wind went and then realise there isn't any in the first place

Scotty99
NSW, 144 posts
26 Mar 2011 8:12PM
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Strez,
You would have had fun at Yule today then 'cause the rest of us couldn't even get moving, bring on the wind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Agree with you 100%, the other benefit is the cost of a skimboard V's a kite.

strez
QLD, 58 posts
26 Mar 2011 7:19PM
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went for a skate a yorkeys today . you serious yule was no good ?

Weta
WA, 893 posts
26 Mar 2011 5:45PM
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eppo said...

Weta said...

Good on Ya Darren thats all we need!! another week of hearing about the horrors of Scarbs from Eppo





I'm done, rest easy Weta and true i even annoyed myself!


Too easy Eppo good to see you & DM have a sense of humour!!

Metro kiting can get a bit congested at times but normally all you have to do is kite a couple of 100 metres upwind and you are clear of the crowds

I can appreciate your angst Eppo at the thought of hordes of kiters descending on your quite local spot. If it's the place i am thinking it is i have been told to check it out by a few of your locals and haven't made it yet so dont stress too much mate.

Good winds



speed brother
QLD, 126 posts
27 Mar 2011 12:06AM
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quote]Daisy said...

Strez,
You would have had fun at Yule today then 'cause the rest of us couldn't even get moving, bring on the wind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Agree with you 100%, the other benefit is the cost of a skimboard V's a kite.


Kited at four mile for 2 hours from 11 am, reasonable winds by FNQ summer standards. Moderately powered on 12 m rebel and 135 select.[

snorton
WA, 87 posts
27 Mar 2011 9:03AM
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So many marginal days lately arrh... I've been thinking about getting a light wind kite for wave riding. Could a single strut low weight kite be the way to go?

www.airush.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/airush_one.pdf

Found this in a previous post - has any one demo-ed one?

eppo
WA, 9503 posts
27 Mar 2011 11:11AM
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Weta said...

eppo said...

Weta said...

Good on Ya Darren thats all we need!! another week of hearing about the horrors of Scarbs from Eppo





I'm done, rest easy Weta and true i even annoyed myself!


Too easy Eppo good to see you & DM have a sense of humour!!

Metro kiting can get a bit congested at times but normally all you have to do is kite a couple of 100 metres upwind and you are clear of the crowds

I can appreciate your angst Eppo at the thought of hordes of kiters descending on your quite local spot. If it's the place i am thinking it is i have been told to check it out by a few of your locals and haven't made it yet so dont stress too much mate.

Good winds



Get on down here, beers on me!




KiteSUP
QLD, 51 posts
27 Mar 2011 11:14PM
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Maybe buy a boat and go wakeboarding thats what i do. So you find a kite and board that gets you going in 10 kts but how much fun is it really going to be...probely be more exciting mowing the lawns.

AKSonline
WA, 925 posts
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27 Mar 2011 10:16PM
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KiteSUP said...

Maybe buy a boat and go wakeboarding thats what i do. So you find a kite and board that gets you going in 10 kts but how much fun is it really going to be...probely be more exciting mowing the lawns.


Maybe your lawns are a terrain park and you ride a blown 351 ride on mower to have more fun than in this vid. VVVV That would make sense!

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/Review/Core-Riot-XR-17m-LW-2/

LOL

DM

KiteSUP
QLD, 51 posts
28 Mar 2011 9:40PM
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not sure what your getting at DM, that was so boring probely fun for the first five minutes before you go to sleep.....desperate kiters beware this aint the answer

LOL to you

djdojo
VIC, 1607 posts
28 Mar 2011 11:13PM
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Not sure how credibly someone with "SUP" in their forum handle can accuse others of boring activities

KiteSUP
QLD, 51 posts
28 Mar 2011 10:30PM
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catching even 4ft waves on a SUP is a lot more fun than 10 kts on a kite. Dont get me wrong I luv kiting and it is my job but unless its 15kts whats the point. Light wind kites are just the result of the retailers trying to boost sales to the desperadoes.

eppo
WA, 9503 posts
28 Mar 2011 10:54PM
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KiteSUP said...

catching even 4ft waves on a SUP is a lot more fun than 10 kts on a kite. Dont get me wrong I luv kiting and it is my job but unless its 15kts whats the point. Light wind kites are just the result of the retailers trying to boost sales to the desperadoes.



disagree. If you can loop, transition, roll while looping, arial jumps easy stuff like that, why not, fun to me. Little harsh on the retailers man...

tightlines
WA, 3477 posts
29 Mar 2011 1:15AM
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KiteSUP said...

catching even 4ft waves on a SUP is a lot more fun than 10 kts on a kite. Dont get me wrong I luv kiting and it is my job but unless its 15kts whats the point. Light wind kites are just the result of the retailers trying to boost sales to the desperadoes.


Totally agree.

JohnnoKeys
WA, 551 posts
29 Mar 2011 8:21AM
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When kiting came to Perth in 2000, everyone said it was dangerous and would be a passing fad. 10 knot kiting is super fun and can be extreme .... have lots of fun 50% more ...

29 Mar 2011 1:04PM
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KiteSUP said...

catching even 4ft waves on a SUP is a lot more fun than 10 kts on a kite. Dont get me wrong I luv kiting and it is my job but unless its 15kts whats the point. Light wind kites are just the result of the retailers trying to boost sales to the desperadoes.


LOL's, Light wind kites are the result of MANUFACTURERS.
They must have decided there was a market for Light Wind Kites, no doubt after investing a fair bit of time and energy into some market research, as they would not stay in business if they made things no-one wanted would they???

People come into our stores looking for FUN things to do, especially when they have the wind bug and are looking for a way to get their fix. We don't ram anything down anyones throat, people come in looking for this stuff, maybe you have a perception of retailing thats a bit skewed??

Have fun, check out the Race Vidos thread, sub 10 knots is easy now, gets you fit, gives you fun if thats your thing, and the wind is still free.


bennie
ACT, 1258 posts
29 Mar 2011 2:04PM
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KiteSUP said...

Maybe buy a boat and go wakeboarding thats what i do. So you find a kite and board that gets you going in 10 kts but how much fun is it really going to be...probaly be more exciting mowing the lawns.


buy a boat! how much is a good wakeboarding boat, min 10k for a 2nd hand piece of crap, don't forget insurance, maintenance, petrol, having a vehicle that can tow it, somewhere to keep it, having to have at least 3 people to go for a sesh(driver, spotter, rider), having to wash the motor with fresh water after every sesh.

Don't get me wrong, I love wakebaording, but really it's not worth the hassell, when you can go for a kite. Plus unless your a fat bastard, light wind kiting with the right gear and the right conditions really is fun, maybe not balls to the wall 25+ knots boosting fun, but a more cruisey kind of fun. It also takes a bit of skill to get the most out of the gear and conditions, which is why a lot of noobs turn their nose up at it.

Hopey
QLD, 178 posts
29 Mar 2011 2:06PM
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^^^^ Agree, it aint cheap or convenient!!!! I have a skiboat, and been doing it for over 25 years (waterski, wakeboard, barefoot) and pretty much spend every second weekend up the lake rain, hail or shine. But you need a crew, and at least one one other person with a speed boat license, and your crew needs to contribute financially, unless your happy to cover all costs, and you need the time!
For me, wife, kids, career, studying a degree part time, im time poor (like many others) and kiting is something that can be done for a couple hours here and there when the opportunity arises, no crew required, only some wind. There aint no waves in Brisbane, so SUP doesnt appeal to me at all. And we dont get the cranking winds of the likes in WA. Personally, LW kiting does appeal, it means maximising any chance of some precious free time on the water improving my progression. If I can get out of the office early and get an arvo kite in, then im a happy chappy, it doesnt have to be 20+ knots. So I'm currently looking for a light wind kite
Each to their own though KiteSUP, whatever rocks your boat, its subjective, and disagree LW kiting is for desperadoes. And I hate mowing my lawn, i pay someone else to do it, so I can spend more time skiing, kiting or with my family

For eppo;
Im a tad over 100kg, and have tried the 17m's Ozone Zephyr, Best Taboo and the LW Core. But im hanging out to try the new Griffin Argo 17m, theres also the North Dyno. Being my first season, and relative noobness I doubt I have the experience to give you comparative feedback that would hold any weight. But of the 3 demo'd so far, the Ozone was my favorite, will let you know how the Argo goes when Mr Griffin finally gets one sent up this way, im hoping its the goods, because price wise its ahead of all the others.

eppo
WA, 9503 posts
29 Mar 2011 6:06PM
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let us know what you find with the griffin. Radman loves em! I'm going to go core because that's what I will be riding (Having used a mates for a while now) - hence i know what to expect from the XR. hey as long as it gets you out, is stable, can loop - I don't care! and I agree light wind kiting is precious time to yourself.



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