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Do not let go until you see this!!!

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Created by Loftywinds > 9 months ago, 18 Dec 2013
Loftywinds
QLD, 2060 posts
18 Dec 2013 11:30PM
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So if you're holding my kite, wait until I give it up please!!!

And if I AM HOLDING your kite, give it up for me to give up YOUR kite - pleeeasssee!!!

Basic kiting 101 guys

Haydn24
QLD, 473 posts
19 Dec 2013 12:11AM
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Yeah happens a lot, you're just standing there holding their kite and they're just looking at you blankly lol.

I can't mind read, dude.

(Holy s*** i've never used there, their and they're in the same sentence before)

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
19 Dec 2013 12:19AM
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Yeah, and note the "let go"... it's not "throw" you ****ing morons.

craggers
WA, 475 posts
18 Dec 2013 10:46PM
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except some people wait to actually lift your kite off the sand, waiting for your thumb. but thats not the right moment. and you dont give the thumb, afraid they will just woooompa hot launch you.

conundrum.

i hot launched a kid on the trainer kite the other day, from bang dead in power zone. he thought it was mintox cool. it was a 3m kite. it was 9 knots. no thumb.

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
19 Dec 2013 12:57AM
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I had a guy give me a thumb like he was afraid the CIA was watching and the feds were going to jump out of the bushes to gag n' bag him.... then he got pissy when I was like "Was that a thumb he showed for a nano-second from behind his left butt cheek or...?"

He was an instructor. Grumpiest kiter I ever met.

puppetonastring
WA, 3619 posts
19 Dec 2013 12:17AM
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Emphasised to the max in our lesson program.
The only 3 injuries Ive experienced from kiting is from 3 times the launcher let go of my kite before getting the 'Thumbs up"
Once just an ignorant arrogant prix who was too self centred to do the job properly.
The other 2 times I put my hand up to indicate 'hold on a minute' & they took it as a 'thumbs up".
One of those with one line wrapped round the bar - instant death spiral down the beach & into a tree. 2 x broken ribs that time.

Make it a definite eye contact 'thumbs up' above your head. (and dont indicate anything if you are not sorted)
You will find that the ones that launch inappropriately are also the ones who do not give clear signals themselves.
If you want to get the message to spread just keep holding the kite through all the waves & head nods till they are yelling at you. Then stick your thumb up and yell back "Oh do you mean 'thumbs up' Im ready now"
Pysses people off no end - but I reckon ur doing them a favour.

BennyB12
QLD, 918 posts
19 Dec 2013 6:10AM
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I've been giving the finger!! No wonder all the hot launches! I thought it was because I rode strapless and unhooked with boardies over my wetty.....

dafish
NSW, 1649 posts
19 Dec 2013 9:21AM
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In teaching I always tell them to move their arm straight out away from their body parallel so I can actually see their hand. When they try and give you the thumbs up in front of their body it's hard to see. You really can't emphasize this stuff enough. Yes, 101 kiting, but people still pull a Kramer all the time :(

Paul1
QLD, 1011 posts
19 Dec 2013 8:30AM
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Just self launch, way easier and if you do it enough you can do it safely in a very tight area, without the kite drifting downwind. Problem solved.

hamburglar
ACT, 2174 posts
19 Dec 2013 9:36AM
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Being guilty of the above offence, due to lack of attention, and luckly to no adverse consequences, when are you peeps going to learn self launch and land!

Nothing more annoying when on limited time while setting yourself up than
"give us a launch mate " or some fool bringing there kite above your head, over your lines
then tapping there head like their from the sheltered workshop . (Not that there is anything wrong with that )

Not many kiters at my local and we are usually pushing each other out of the way
to get on the water first, and not there at same time so this is a must know
skill . If someone launches you here they want a guinea pig to test light wind kiteability!

Gorgo
VIC, 5040 posts
19 Dec 2013 10:33AM
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Assisted launch transgressions:

- kiter just standing there looking at you expecting you to know by mental telepathy that they are ready to go.

- kiter continually stepping towards the assistant (especially when the assistant is up against a fence/path/bushes etc)

- kiter walking way too far downwind then signalling for you to let go (it's tempting to drop the kite and watch it roll away but it's also fun to guide them back to the right position)

- kiter standing way upwind pulling on the power and slamming the assistant (sometimes fun to do it on purpose)

Gorgo
VIC, 5040 posts
19 Dec 2013 10:37AM
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hamburglar said..
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Nothing more annoying when on limited time while setting yourself up than
"give us a launch mate " or some fool bringing there kite above your head, over your lines
then tapping there head like their from the sheltered workshop . (Not that there is anything wrong with that )

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More annoying things:

- you've come in, the conditions are such that an assisted landing is sensible (crowded beach or nuking winds), and boof heads studiously ignore you until you tap yourself on the top of your head.

- you've wrapped your lines, rinsed the sand off stuff and carrying gear off the beach and somebody signals for a land in perfect self landing conditions.

Kazan
QLD, 699 posts
19 Dec 2013 10:41AM
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Gorgo said..

More annoying things:

- you've come in, the conditions are such that an assisted landing is sensible (crowded beach or nuking winds), and boof heads studiously ignore you until you tap yourself on the top of your head.

- you've wrapped your lines, rinsed the sand off stuff and carrying gear off the beach and somebody signals for a land in perfect self landing conditions.


HUH!? Wait a second.

[1] you're saying people should read your mind you do NOT have to tap your head? Well dugh! Of course people are going to ignore you if you don't tap your head. I would.

and [2] You can't be bothered to re-park your kite and help another kiter land? It only takes like 20 seconds man!

You're typical of what I am talking about. No communication skills what so ever.

KIT33R
NSW, 1715 posts
19 Dec 2013 11:46AM
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Paul1 said..
Just self launch, way easier and if you do it enough you can do it safely in a very tight area, without the kite drifting downwind. Problem solved.


I prefer to self launch unless it's crowded. I never ask for a launch from someone I don't know. Been hot launch by a few newbees over the years and regretted it.

Kazan
QLD, 699 posts
19 Dec 2013 10:49AM
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KIT33R said..

Paul1 said..
Just self launch, way easier and if you do it enough you can do it safely in a very tight area, without the kite drifting downwind. Problem solved.


I prefer to self launch unless it's crowded. I never ask for a launch from someone I don't know. Been hot launch by a few newbees over the years and regretted it.



+1 It's self landing without releasing the QR that gets me and I just wait for assistance.

Gorgo
VIC, 5040 posts
19 Dec 2013 12:16PM
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Kazan said..

Gorgo said..

More annoying things:

- you've come in, the conditions are such that an assisted landing is sensible (crowded beach or nuking winds), and boof heads studiously ignore you until you tap yourself on the top of your head.

- you've wrapped your lines, rinsed the sand off stuff and carrying gear off the beach and somebody signals for a land in perfect self landing conditions.


HUH!? Wait a second.

[1] you're saying people should read your mind you do NOT have to tap your head? Well dugh! Of course people are going to ignore you if you don't tap your head. I would.

and [2] You can't be bothered to re-park your kite and help another kiter land? It only takes like 20 seconds man!

You're typical of what I am talking about. No communication skills what so ever.



No, I'm not. You're taking some brief comments on the internet and spinning a fantasy so you can rant about it. I am talking about the upper and lower extremes of conditions, not the normal everyday situation.

I always look out for people coming in and go to land them, especially in sketchy conditions. It's what you do on the beach. I have had occasions in very rugged conditions when I have had to walk across the beach and go right up to people to ask for a land. 99% of the time I self launch and land but in rugged conditions it seems sensible to get assistance when it's available.

On the other hand, I'm almost gone from the beach, conditions are borderline too light to kite. Conditions where the kite will virtually land itself and some numpty comes walking up the beach banging away on his head for a land.

In brief, Kazan, go f_uck yourself.

Jared888
WA, 389 posts
19 Dec 2013 9:50AM
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Big believer in self launching/landing.....you guys are lucky to be getting a hand

But those that are getting a launch/land by another person and are whinging here about the how and how not's of it all, YOU ARE AT FAULT!!!!

Some 101 rules verbally dribbled here...here is another one. DON'T LET ANYONE LAND OR LAUNCH YOUR KITE FOR YOU UNLESS YOU ARE 100% CONFIDENT THEY ARE COMPETENT TO DO SO.

How is this done, communication you talk to them and confirm action prior to launch, if there is some one you have not confirmed competency with when you come to land be safe and land it your self , even if that means having to go somewhere else and land.

Its your responsibility peeps, man up

suniboy21
VIC, 1090 posts
19 Dec 2013 12:51PM
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I've had some bad experiences with people trying to launch my kites which is why I usually do it my self.
A few weeks ago I had a lovely fellow kiter offer to launch my kite, they explained to me that they knew what they where doing then she asked which way to hold the kite.....was quite obvious which way I was going to launch as the lines where far to the one side of the kite......

dafish
NSW, 1649 posts
19 Dec 2013 12:53PM
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(Just self launch, way easier and if you do it enough you can do it safely in a very tight area, without the kite drifting downwind. Problem solved.)

Way easier to self launch in most situations. Very crowded beach, tight launch zone etc, sometimes forces you to rely on others. I will ALWAYS self launch first if possible.

harry potter
VIC, 2777 posts
19 Dec 2013 1:15PM
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I always self launch and land .........cant remember the last time I had someone else involved

With practice you can launch and land with very little room.

MrFreeze
292 posts
19 Dec 2013 10:23AM
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Loftywinds said..




So if you're holding my kite, wait until I give it up please!!!

And if I AM HOLDING your kite, give it up for me to give up YOUR kite - pleeeasssee!!!

Basic kiting 101 guys



Hmmmmmm I might add if your landing someones kite. DO NOT LET GO OF IT. I saw a complete nob let go of a guys kite at Pinnaroo which then in turn went tumbling down the beach and hot launched. A chilling incident to witness.

harry potter
VIC, 2777 posts
19 Dec 2013 1:29PM
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MrFreeze said..

Loftywinds said..




So if you're holding my kite, wait until I give it up please!!!

And if I AM HOLDING your kite, give it up for me to give up YOUR kite - pleeeasssee!!!

Basic kiting 101 guys



Hmmmmmm I might add if your landing someones kite. DO NOT LET GO OF IT. I saw a complete nob let go of a guys kite at Pinnaroo which then in turn went tumbling down the beach and hot launched. A chilling incident to witness.


Hmmmm...... Interesting

Kazan
QLD, 699 posts
19 Dec 2013 12:40PM
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harry potter said..

MrFreeze said..

Loftywinds said..




So if you're holding my kite, wait until I give it up please!!!

And if I AM HOLDING your kite, give it up for me to give up YOUR kite - pleeeasssee!!!

Basic kiting 101 guys



Hmmmmmm I might add if your landing someones kite. DO NOT LET GO OF IT. I saw a complete nob let go of a guys kite at Pinnaroo which then in turn went tumbling down the beach and hot launched. A chilling incident to witness.


Hmmmm...... Interesting



Very interesting - NOT.

You mean to tell me that you grab someone's kite to assist them, and don't let go of it? Until when? 2014 xmas?

Just park it and go back to your business.

What I don't like is idiots that get precious with their kites (North owners seem to be the worse) when I put sand on their kite to park it properly.

Stuff the ego guys! I will put sand on it if need be to hold it down.

KIT33R
NSW, 1715 posts
19 Dec 2013 2:05PM
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When I land your kite, which I'm very happy to do, please come over and secure it. It is not my job to throw sand, rocks, seaweed or small children on your kite so that it doesn't lift off. I will quite happily wait for you, holding down your kite, until you have unclipped you chicken loop and walked over.

If you don't do this, I'll put sand on it anyway so that another person doesn't get hurt by your run away kite but it is your responcibility to secure your equipment.

Kazan
QLD, 699 posts
19 Dec 2013 3:20PM
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KIT33R said..
If you don't do this, I'll put sand on it anyway so that another person doesn't get hurt by your run away kite but it is your responcibility to secure your equipment.


Could not agree more. Better actually, that way you don't get told off for "dirtying" their precious toy.

juicerider
WA, 790 posts
19 Dec 2013 1:26PM
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From the kite Launcher, just in case someone has not yet seen it

MrFreeze
292 posts
19 Dec 2013 2:37PM
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Kazan said..

harry potter said..

MrFreeze said..

Loftywinds said..




So if you're holding my kite, wait until I give it up please!!!

And if I AM HOLDING your kite, give it up for me to give up YOUR kite - pleeeasssee!!!

Basic kiting 101 guys



Hmmmmmm I might add if your landing someones kite. DO NOT LET GO OF IT. I saw a complete nob let go of a guys kite at Pinnaroo which then in turn went tumbling down the beach and hot launched. A chilling incident to witness.


Hmmmm...... Interesting



Very interesting - NOT.

You mean to tell me that you grab someone's kite to assist them, and don't let go of it? Until when? 2014 xmas?

Just park it and go back to your business.

What I don't like is idiots that get precious with their kites (North owners seem to be the worse) when I put sand on their kite to park it properly.

Stuff the ego guys! I will put sand on it if need be to hold it down.




Hmmmmm misunderstanding! Yes park it and do as you were doing.

Sand is good, extra safety, light wind or strong.

What I saw was a punter grab a kite then let it slip from his grasp. I'm talking a couple of seconds. Then it was up to the kiter to try and deal with the out of control, cartwheeling kite. Things can get ugly quickly, especially on a crowed beach like Pinnaroo.

Just make sure you have a good hold of it and flip it over. Chuck some sand on it or not, what ever floats your boat. It's not rocket science.


Hmmmmmm done on this subject now where's Eppo.

ExSurfCentre
WA, 490 posts
19 Dec 2013 2:46PM
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Kazan said..

harry potter said..

MrFreeze said..

Loftywinds said..




So if you're holding my kite, wait until I give it up please!!!

And if I AM HOLDING your kite, give it up for me to give up YOUR kite - pleeeasssee!!!

Basic kiting 101 guys



Hmmmmmm I might add if your landing someones kite. DO NOT LET GO OF IT. I saw a complete nob let go of a guys kite at Pinnaroo which then in turn went tumbling down the beach and hot launched. A chilling incident to witness.


Hmmmm...... Interesting



Very interesting - NOT.

You mean to tell me that you grab someone's kite to assist them, and don't let go of it? Until when? 2014 xmas?

Just park it and go back to your business.

What I don't like is idiots that get precious with their kites (North owners seem to be the worse) when I put sand on their kite to park it properly.

Stuff the ego guys! I will put sand on it if need be to hold it down.



Totally agree, unless you are in a real hurry to do it yourself I'm putting sand on it every time.......and what's with the too cool for school guys that refuse a launch or land when offered even in sketchy conditions, yes I know your capable of doing it but isn't it easier if I help you? I'm not questioning your manhood, just trying to be polite and helpful :-)

stuntnaz
NSW, 540 posts
19 Dec 2013 10:49PM
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If your landing someone's kite catch it turn it up side down so it's floating in the air , once the person has unhooked walk the kite to them hand it over job done walk away .

toppleover
QLD, 2055 posts
19 Dec 2013 10:10PM
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IMO-If its not a mate or kiter you trust, best to self launch/land.

Beware of the LOONIES.

toppleover
QLD, 2055 posts
19 Dec 2013 10:18PM
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Fark that



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