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Does anyone ride Mutants anymore?

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Created by eppo > 9 months ago, 21 Oct 2010
eppo
WA, 9529 posts
21 Oct 2010 10:09AM
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Anyone out there ride mutants? If so which one, why and how do they perform in waves? The latest production one I can find is Shinn wave in 2009? What's everone's thoughts on this style of board? Or are they in between but no good at either!

waxman
SA, 1390 posts
21 Oct 2010 12:53PM
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One of the new boards from Cardboards looks like a mutant, small fins one end, surf fins the other.

Juz M
NSW, 156 posts
21 Oct 2010 2:00PM
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Im gonna be purchasing myself the liquid force kite fish this season, looks the goods!

AKSonline
WA, 925 posts
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21 Oct 2010 11:08AM
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Hi Eppo,

I have been riding the Cardboards Wave 148 a bit recently and quite like it, however I haven't had it in the waves as yet. I think it would be a fun board in the waves if you want to ride a twin tip. It rides and feels like a twin tip but with a bit more grip at the surf fins end.

If you expect it to ride like a full on mutant like the Airush Fusions, then it wont suit you. It's basically a surf twin tip designed for wave shredding with the ability to ride both ways. It rides comfortably through the chop with the twin concave bottom design and narrow tips. Fins are 50mm on the nose and 80mm surf type fins on the other end.



Good looking board with a 3 year waranty. My goal is to get it into the waves and give it a workout so I can offer you better insights into it's wave performance. I have a demo in the truck for those interested.

DM

KIT33R
NSW, 1715 posts
21 Oct 2010 2:08PM
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Me! Shinn Wave. Love it. Been riding it for about 12 months. I put smaller Underground fins on the front and changed the footstraps to a thinner softer surf style strap. I ride it in both surf and flat water.

Riding backwards (bigger fins at the front) is a bit challenging but certainly not impossible due to the lack of tip lift and it doesn't go well off the wind backwards, I usually flick to toeside to run off the wind. I ride it toeside 40% of the time since it so easy this way due to the 60/40 layout of the footstraps.

A good idea too is to get a sliding hook spreader bar for your harness. It makers toeside much easier when you can have the hook on your hip.

It excells at carving turns up and down a wave face as well as full power transitions.




eppo
WA, 9529 posts
21 Oct 2010 12:55PM
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AKSonline said...

Hi Eppo,

I have been riding the Cardboards Wave 148 a bit recently and quite like it, however I haven't had it in the waves as yet. I think it would be a fun board in the waves if you want to ride a twin tip. It rides and feels like a twin tip but with a bit more grip at the surf fins end.

If you expect it to ride like a full on mutant like the Airush Fusions, then it wont suit you. It's basically a surf twin tip designed for wave shredding with the ability to ride both ways. It rides comfortably through the chop with the twin concave bottom design and narrow tips. Fins are 50mm on the nose and 80mm surf type fins on the other end.



Good looking board with a 3 year waranty. My goal is to get it into the waves and give it a workout so I can offer you better insights into it's wave performance. I have a demo in the truck for those interested.

DM
Yes I still own an original airush mutant would you believe it! No I'm not looking for a traditional mutant style (My thoughts are they don't quite do flat, chop or waves really well,leaves you in the middle ground). But this looks along the same lines as the flysurfer flywave. A TT principally with a little more fin for grip in waves on one side.

Would be very interested to hear your review in the waves. Donw in mandurah, if you head this way drop us a line through eppenvanderaa@bigpond.com.

Cheers

eppo
WA, 9529 posts
21 Oct 2010 12:59PM
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KIT33R said...

Me! Shinn Wave. Love it. Been riding it for about 12 months. I put smaller Underground fins on the front and changed the footstraps to a thinner softer surf style strap. I ride it in both surf and flat water.

Riding backwards (bigger fins at the front) is a bit challenging but certainly not impossible due to the lack of tip lift and it doesn't go well off the wind backwards, I usually flick to toeside to run off the wind. I ride it toeside 40% of the time since it so easy this way due to the 60/40 layout of the footstraps.

A good idea too is to get a sliding hook spreader bar for your harness. It makers toeside much easier when you can have the hook on your hip.

It excells at carving turns up and down a wave face as well as full power transitions.



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Nice looking water! What other boards have you ridden and how do they compare?

eppo
WA, 9529 posts
21 Oct 2010 1:08PM
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A good idea too is to get a sliding hook spreader bar for your harness. It makers toeside much easier when you can have the hook on your hip.



Yes something like the Dyna Bar V5? I must admit,this board does intrigue me.I used to ride a full blown Airrush mutant back in 04 or something? Does it plane likea twintip in the directional stance? Did the underground fins stop the catching? How hard is it on the knees - is it soft through the chop? How does it land the other way (used to riding a tt now and land and jump both ways and want to keep at least of that in my arsenal?

eppo
WA, 9529 posts
21 Oct 2010 1:09PM
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Juz M said...

Im gonna be purchasing myself the liquid force kite fish this season, looks the goods!


Is that a mutant?? or a straight out fish directional surfboard?

KIT33R
NSW, 1715 posts
21 Oct 2010 4:55PM
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eppo said...

A good idea too is to get a sliding hook spreader bar for your harness. It makers toeside much easier when you can have the hook on your hip.



Yes something like the Dyna Bar V5? I must admit,this board does intrigue me.I used to ride a full blown Airrush mutant back in 04 or something? Does it plane likea twintip in the directional stance? Did the underground fins stop the catching? How hard is it on the knees - is it soft through the chop? How does it land the other way (used to riding a tt now and land and jump both ways and want to keep at least of that in my arsenal?


Yes, I have a Dyna bar. The Shinn planes like a twin tip and goes up wind really well. The smaller Underground (140s) up front are better than the big ones that come with the board with less chance of catching in the chop. The footpads are really thin though and I do get sore feet after a long session. The board has a fair bit of flex in the tail and mid section which helps in the turns. My knees are OK in chop, you've got to pretend you're skiing moggles and try not to bounce around too much. I've jumped it both ways and it's fine but it's not something I do a lot of.

I've mainly ridden twin tip over the years and I also have a surfboard but I like the Shinn for agressive carving. I broke my foot jumping last year (January '09) when I hit the water a bit too hard so I've given up jumps.

If you want a board for hard carving in small surf or flat water with the ability to ride it backwards out through the break then the Shinn is a good fun unit. You can probably pick up one in the for sale section of Seabreeze from time to time but I know that Kitepower in Sydney has a new one (under $900) at the moment.

If you were in Sydney I'd happily let you try mine.



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