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Jump trick question: feet to the sky, head down

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Created by tom82 > 9 months ago, 22 Oct 2013
tom82
VIC, 13 posts
22 Oct 2013 3:49PM
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Hey guys- am wondering if this trick has a name, and if there is any secret to it..

I've seen a couple of people boost really high, and invert their bodies. So they extend their legs straight up and point the board at the sky, and their torsos / heads point down back towards the water. Looks awesome, and I imagine it must feel pretty incredible too. Didn't know how to search for it as I have no idea if it has a name. Am wondering if there is any trick to the technique, or if it's just about getting enough height and making sure the kite stays at 12, bar in, whilst you thrust you legs up? I'm picturing some pretty messed up landings whilst learning this one!

Thanks,
Tom

Gilly3
QLD, 799 posts
22 Oct 2013 3:02PM
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Dead Man - It's all about timing......

Google Airstyle

KIT33R
NSW, 1714 posts
22 Oct 2013 4:12PM
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eppo
WA, 9505 posts
22 Oct 2013 1:40PM
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You need a good stopper ball to take the hands completely off.

austin
671 posts
22 Oct 2013 2:22PM
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My favourite from freestyle days was a 180 one handed invert, loved it..........since retired from freestyle

sebol
WA, 753 posts
22 Oct 2013 2:26PM
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airstyle rocks

Beersy
TAS, 753 posts
22 Oct 2013 5:59PM
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It's good when your learning to jump as it gives you something todo other than dangle

tom82
VIC, 13 posts
22 Oct 2013 6:00PM
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Siiiiick!!!! Wow, looks crazy fun! :-D Will have to order me a copy!!

Thanks for heads up guys.

@eppo, curious about what you mean by a good stopper ball. I've got F-One Bandits, stopper ball always seemed to be in a very comfortable position when riding normally and pushing the bar out if overpowered. I notice that it is adjustable using an allan key as well. Should it be in a position where you are still have some power when you let go of the bar?

deanrobi
VIC, 641 posts
22 Oct 2013 6:24PM
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you want to slide the stopper ball down when you attempt a 'Deadman' as you will need to keep the kite powered up, check out the photo above and you can see he is using the stopper rather than letting the kite fully de-power

NR
WA, 516 posts
22 Oct 2013 3:51PM
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Hilarious video. The kick flips were pretty neat, but I liked the air guitar the most.

tom82
VIC, 13 posts
22 Oct 2013 7:30PM
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Yeah right, so I guess I should loosen the stopper ball slightly so that it can be slid up/down by hand, but can still hold the bar in place. Nice! :)

stabber
NSW, 1114 posts
22 Oct 2013 8:36PM
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just make sure you start to invert before you reach the peak of your climb......you must be inverted by the time you're at the top of your jump or you'll not be able to get back in time to spot the landing.....

gcdave
534 posts
22 Oct 2013 5:56PM
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Is a headfirst teabag still called a teabag with said stopper locked at full power?

dave......
WA, 2119 posts
22 Oct 2013 6:24PM
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@Tom82...

There are 2 inverted air-style jumps to learn. The first one is the Candlestick.

A Candlestick is inverted like austin has shown, but the hands are kept on the bar. As stated all you do is lift your legs and tilt your head back just before you hit the apex of the jump. Other variations are keeping one hand in the middle of the bar and try and grab your board with the other hand and do a styled-out inverted grab.

Dead men either require a stopper ball or a micro-hook. They were popular when kites had limited-or no-depower. With todays kites you need to learn how to jump using a C-kite technique.... you cant fly the kite to 12 and pull in the depower. Doing a deadman using todays kites as Eppo stated will make you drop like a stone.

Sounds like youre just getting into jumping. Be aware theres a difference between getting good vertical lift, and long more downwind jumps. try a candlestick or deadman on a downwind bust and your going to land very hot.

gesper
NSW, 517 posts
22 Oct 2013 11:56PM
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Got this photo of a mate back in 2007 using 12m Rhino . Not real high but still a great trick



Mark _australia
WA, 22420 posts
22 Oct 2013 8:59PM
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tom82 said..
........if there is any secret to it..



Yes.
Don't land in same position.

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
22 Oct 2013 11:37PM
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Hands off the bar - dead man
One hand on the bar, one hand pointing down - DISCO MAN!!!

SaveTheWhales
WA, 1877 posts
23 Oct 2013 1:36AM
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tom82 said...

I notice that it is adjustable using an allan key as well. Should it be in a position where you are still have some power when you let go of the bar?


Hey Tom - the stopper ball with allen keys is not what you adjust !!!!

Look up 'sliding kite bar stopper' that you use your fingers to slide up n down as your riding...

You need to pull it to full power as you jump - or youll crash down on your head, lean right back - lock your board against your lines to stop you from 'rotating' n let go of the bar both hands same time, drop the hangloose fingers style for a split sceond.

Then grab bar sheeting in hard with front hand, spotting landing then push sliding stopper out with back hand - grin n ride away - fark yeah :)

tom82
VIC, 13 posts
23 Oct 2013 10:00AM
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STW- ok, got it. Thanks. Sounds like the kind of adjustable stopper I used to have on my 2009 North bar. I'm suspect I'm unlikely to construct my own homemade sliding ball, so Disco man will have to suffice for now. :)

KIT33R
NSW, 1714 posts
23 Oct 2013 10:14AM
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tom82 said..
STW- ok, got it. Thanks. Sounds like the kind of adjustable stopper I used to have on my 2009 North bar. I'm suspect I'm unlikely to construct my own homemade sliding ball, so Disco man will have to suffice for now. :)


Photos to follow?

SaveTheWhales
WA, 1877 posts
23 Oct 2013 10:43AM
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Hey Tom what bar do you have ???

tom82
VIC, 13 posts
24 Oct 2013 5:16PM
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Disco man selfie? An inspired idea...

@STW: Have a 2013 F-One Bandit bar

VB MAN
1156 posts
24 Oct 2013 3:48PM
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Sorry guys couldn't help meself



austin
671 posts
24 Oct 2013 4:56PM
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Ill raise you a deadman triple clap!

kitcho207
NSW, 861 posts
25 Oct 2013 12:34AM
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teabaggin said...
Got this photo of a mate back in 2007 using 12m Rhino . Not real high but still a great trick






Hey. Isn't he facing the wrong way?

captainkaos
WA, 247 posts
24 Oct 2013 11:44PM
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I was gonna say ask VB (aka Big airman) for an explanation. I think he invented the single, double and triple clap deadman?

SaveTheWhales
WA, 1877 posts
25 Oct 2013 3:23AM
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tom82 said...

@STW: Have a 2013 F-One Bandit bar


Tom - you may be able to get a Naish sliding stopper that comes in 2 halves, place over your lines and just screw together... depending on the bar hole size.

Or the north one but put the ball on the bottom side to fit any hole shape..

gesper
NSW, 517 posts
25 Oct 2013 7:36AM
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kitcho207 said..

teabaggin said...
Got this photo of a mate back in 2007 using 12m Rhino . Not real high but still a great trick






Hey. Isn't he facing the wrong way?



That's because he was doing a backroll / spin as well, he felt that it was easier to do deadmans that way.

Big eeeZeee
NSW, 1100 posts
8 Apr 2014 4:10PM
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anyone make their own stopper ball? Want to retrofit one to my ozone and naish bars (both have tubed depower lines). I'm hanging up the boots and slapping the sandals back on. Oldskool is back baby!

Dave Whettingsteel
WA, 1397 posts
8 Apr 2014 2:16PM
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austin said..



My favourite from freestyle days was a 180 one handed invert, loved it..........since retired from freestyle



Retired Austin?

Pretty sure I saw you pulling a few of them at Horrocks back in January! Maybe it's not full time retirement haha

austin
671 posts
8 Apr 2014 4:04PM
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only on very special occasions



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