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Kite Stacking

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Created by prea > 9 months ago, 28 Apr 2010
prea
QLD, 184 posts
28 Apr 2010 5:35PM
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Seeing the wind is quite light at the moment!
Has anyone had experience stacking kites
in theory 2 x 8 metre kites stacked should fly fast enough
while the 16 square metres should generate ample low end power to get you up and going in light winds.

getfunky
WA, 4485 posts
28 Apr 2010 3:42PM
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Try some helium in em.

Mr float
NSW, 3452 posts
28 Apr 2010 5:53PM
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Used to do it with c kites . Does generate lots of pull but hard to go upwind.Gave up in the end but haven't tried it with SLE 's . Perhaps this is one worth revisiting .Works with low ar deltas (in the old days low ar c kites had good pull but not enough depower )

jkiter
QLD, 139 posts
28 Apr 2010 6:22PM
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yeah it works but not well enough to bother. also don't drop your kite, it ain't relaunching!

suface2air
QLD, 701 posts
28 Apr 2010 6:28PM
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If anyone trys post up photos sound like it would be cooll to look at .

GalahOnTheBay
NSW, 4188 posts
28 Apr 2010 8:10PM
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^^^^^^^ Yeah what float said.

Stacking kites stopped around about the time big kites became the craze and you were a nobody unless you owned an 18m kite or bigger. Either way those monsters truck you downwind and do not relaunch... oh the swimming...

I have not seen it done for SLEs and I wonder if it works better / worse than for Cs / arcs.

Hardcarve1
QLD, 550 posts
28 Apr 2010 9:51PM
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We use to do it with Arcs around 2001 - 2002 and would place a 1120 over a 840 with 6m extensions and the back lines about 100mm longer. It was a great light wind tractor and made you use the apparent wind to great effect. You had to know how to edge to control board speed and avoid the down wind speed crash as the faster you went the more down wind you were pulled. Relaunch was in most cases very easy believe it or not as most of the time at least one kite was trying to fly off the water and lifting the other. Arcs are next to impossible to crash anyway.
I dont think today it would be too cool unless you were to do it unhooked with kite low on a directional with no fins in the surf wearing bindings.

sir ROWDY
WA, 5353 posts
28 Apr 2010 8:02PM
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Stackin kites is like stackin sluts... You can only feel what the first one is doing anyway.

pynnee
WA, 164 posts
28 Apr 2010 8:41PM
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love it sir rowdy.

As much as i dont want to start a verbal riot, I have seen Alex Sanz do it a few times and he seems to do it well. not sure where he is now but if you can get hold of him I'm sure he would be more then happy to tell you why his way is better and is going to make the sport so much more then it is now

79Boarder
NSW, 93 posts
30 Apr 2010 2:14PM
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A few guys at mambo experimented with this a few years back. I will dig up the photos when i get home. I think they used two small cabs.

Bigwavedave
QLD, 2057 posts
30 Apr 2010 2:17PM
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Stickerman at Maroochydore set a world record for stacking foils a few years ago. Part of the requirement was to actually kite for a certain distance.
I'll get the details and post them here.

Bigwavedave
QLD, 2057 posts
30 Apr 2010 2:36PM
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in the meantime...

firiebob
WA, 3158 posts
30 Apr 2010 12:51PM
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suface2air said...

If anyone trys post up photos sound like it would be cooll to look at .


Here you go, an unknown (to me) Teabagger visiting Yorkey's November 2004, will say it looked impressive...








getfunky
WA, 4485 posts
30 Apr 2010 1:23PM
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79Boarder said...

A few guys at mambo experimented with this a few years back. I will dig up the photos when i get home. I think they used two small cabs.


Quadruple chances of ending up in the shrubbery? (someone had to say it)

Desperate situations demand desperate acts but below 12kts is really like swapping hands. Sure it's differant but it's still not the real business. Stacking kites is strictly if you are super starved and have waaayyy too much time on ya hands (left and right )

30 Apr 2010 3:33PM
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Lach aka Mr Float, in light wind hell Vanuatu 2004 (?)
48 Sq M of Peter Lynn venoms!! (19+16+13), the 13M was on the bottom of the stack total length of lines was around 40M!!!
Still only just got us going a little better than the 19M.
Stacking does not really work for light winds, but its still fun to do.



ewan kite
VIC, 928 posts
30 Apr 2010 3:50PM
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79Boarder said...

A few guys at mambo experimented with this a few years back. I will dig up the photos when i get home. I think they used two small cabs.


yea that was us...it was a 6 and a 10.. worked fairly well, could ride, kiteloop and all...but we probs got the same power as a 12m and if u crashed them they would never go up, i rekon it would work better with C's

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
1 May 2010 12:53PM
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sir ROWDY said...

Stackin kites is like stackin sluts... You can only feel what the first one is doing anyway.


Lots of fun trying though

GalahOnTheBay
NSW, 4188 posts
1 May 2010 4:35PM
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Kitepower Australia said...

Lach aka Mr Float, in light wind hell Vanuatu 2004 (?)
48 Sq M of Peter Lynn venoms!! (19+16+13), the 13M was on the bottom of the stack total length of lines was around 40M!!!
Still only just got us going a little better than the 19M.
Stacking does not really work for light winds, but its still fun to do.


Wow - those pictures are hilarious!

In another thread folks are talking about being a "legit" kiter, and I reckon taking out 48sq for a sail and getting them back in dry gives you a good claim at it...

1 May 2010 5:10PM
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GalahOnTheBay said...

Kitepower Australia said...

Lach aka Mr Float, in light wind hell Vanuatu 2004 (?)
48 Sq M of Peter Lynn venoms!! (19+16+13), the 13M was on the bottom of the stack total length of lines was around 40M!!!
Still only just got us going a little better than the 19M.
Stacking does not really work for light winds, but its still fun to do.


Wow - those pictures are hilarious!

In another thread folks are talking about being a "legit" kiter, and I reckon taking out 48sq for a sail and getting them back in dry gives you a good claim at it...


Hey I'm so legit Galah, I'm awesome, you know that!
Actually I only flew the stack when it had the 13 take off so it was only 35M for me, but Lach is a lot fatter (LOL's) than me, and we got about the same bottom end anyway.
In the middle pic the wind was definitely not stronger than approx 6-8 knots and Lach still rode back upwind to where he started from, at no time did we end up downwind with the stack. Kites do work and fly in 6/7 knots, but I would not call it fun, unless you are marooned Beachcomber resort on Vanuatu like we were.
Downwind at this spot was the most terrifying coral anyway, but they were desperate times, and we were very desperate.
I had an amazing make all other kites obsolete 13M Hellfish there too, and it was sh1te in those light winds.



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