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Kiting from Raffles to the narrows in perth?!?

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Created by beefarmer > 9 months ago, 1 Feb 2010
beefarmer
WA, 328 posts
1 Feb 2010 9:54PM
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Heading home this arvo over the Canning bridge, saw a kiter with a orange/pinky kite (couldnt have a close look, too much traffic) up in front of the Raffles hotel.

Very bad place to kite i think (nice flat water though ) so I figured he/she'd got caught in no mans land in the middle of the swan when the wind dropped this arvo.

I was near home and car access is difficult there so I jumped on my pushy and pedalled down, figuring the person would need a hand to land their kite.

Got to the river only to see the kite heading away towards the freeway narrows bridge.... doing loops downwind parallel with the freeway to keep board speed up. very very bad place to kite i think.

Sorry I couldn't help whoever you were, you were way too far away by that stage for me to be of any use and it appeared you had no wind or water left to play with.

Just wanted to check you'd made it back ok, and find out how.....

KnightKiter
4 posts
3 Feb 2010 9:45PM
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Hi, that was me!

Sorry for causing concern - I got my girlfriend to help me launch from just outside the raffles and then went from there down to the bit of beach down near Mill Point Road where my girl helped me land it.

Great fun, but I know its probably not a good idea so close to the freeway.

I did it again the next day from Melville Waters area, but I'll keep out of there from now on.

Thinking of trying another downwind from Freo way to the normal Kite spot at Melville Waters.

Thanks for trying to help out, would have looked a bit odd i guess!

dusta
WA, 2940 posts
3 Feb 2010 11:08PM
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beefarmer said...

Heading home this arvo over the Canning bridge, saw a kiter with a orange/pinky kite (couldnt have a close look, too much traffic) up in front of the Raffles hotel.

Very bad place to kite i think (nice flat water though ) so I figured he/she'd got caught in no mans land in the middle of the swan when the wind dropped this arvo.

I was near home and car access is difficult there so I jumped on my pushy and pedalled down, figuring the person would need a hand to land their kite.

Got to the river only to see the kite heading away towards the freeway narrows bridge.... doing loops downwind parallel with the freeway to keep board speed up. very very bad place to kite i think.

Sorry I couldn't help whoever you were, you were way too far away by that stage for me to be of any use and it appeared you had no wind or water left to play with.

Just wanted to check you'd made it back ok, and find out how.....


funny you should mention that . i saw the two kites yesterday at the end of hardy street and thought WTF , who is out there on a day like today . must be either someone blown downwind from melville or something .

I raced down to narrows thinking they would need someone to land em and there is someone there with a 4wd and they just did a downwinder from melville .

Crazy ****ers :P

Fat Mike
65 posts
4 Feb 2010 9:47AM
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I got my girlfriend to help me launch from just outside the raffles and then went from there down to the bit of beach down near Mill Point Road where my girl helped me land it.

Great fun, but I know its probably not a good idea so close to the freeway.


Direct onshore to a 6 lane freeway 10m from the water. With the volume of kite tourists in Perth this season hunting around for locations, you might want to give a little more thought to the precedent your setting...

Knight Kiter
19 posts
4 Feb 2010 10:01AM
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KnightKiter said...

Hi, that was me!


it certainly wasn't me. [}:)]

hicky
WA, 55 posts
4 Feb 2010 10:46AM
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IF THE MANS CONFIDENT ENOUGH TO DO IT,I SAY GO FOR IT !
SO STOP BEING SOFT COCK CITY SLICKERS, AND BAGGING THE HELL OUT OF SOMEONE WHO TRYS SOMETHING DIFFERENT!.OK

KnightKiter
4 posts
4 Feb 2010 11:12AM
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Again, sorry for making people panic.

But had a great time doing it!

Factory
WA, 266 posts
4 Feb 2010 11:14AM
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hicky said...

IF THE MANS CONFIDENT ENOUGH TO DO IT,I SAY GO FOR IT !
SO STOP BEING SOFT COCK CITY SLICKERS, AND BAGGING THE HELL OUT OF SOMEONE WHO TRYS SOMETHING DIFFERENT!.OK


I think the problem raised here is not confidence based. If by chance you have to bail your kite its going to end up on the freeway.

I can already see the news headlines...

"20 CAR PILE UP ON FREEWAY CAUSED BY ROGUE KITE!!"

I saw the kites from my office and thought WTF are these guys doing!?!?!....obviously didnt really think it through too well.

and seriously, hicky you are simply another one of those ignorant, only think of yourself types that are fkn everywhere these days. Grow up mate!

KnightKiter
4 posts
4 Feb 2010 11:21AM
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a kite could get lost from anywhere and still end up in the same spot.

Cops that went past didn't seem too concerned.

We had back up etc, waiting for us and plans for if stuff went wrong. Did Monday on my own, and the next day with a mate, both times had a ground crew.

Gonna try a new spot anyway soon just giving it a go, obviously don't want to cause concern. Nice to know though that there are so many people willing to rush to try and help out thinking that we were in trouble.

Juddy
WA, 1103 posts
4 Feb 2010 11:36AM
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"a kite could get lost from anywhere and still end up in the same spot..."

WRONG.

And you honestly think that this line of thought justifies kiting next to a freeway???
Regardless of how many people you've got backing you up, & being there 'just in case' this is just lunacy...

Kiting 101...stay away from people; buildings; power lines & poles, cars (parked or otherwise) blah blah blah...and you go kiting along side/near a freeway??? FFS...

Sure, I'm going to get burnt for being a party pooper, but everyone on this forum talks about kiters doing the right thing to protect spots & our sport. Sure, nothing happened to you this time, but that was this time.

FYI, a few years back a young Teuro's kite ended up in the traffic on the Narrows Bridge during peak hour simply because he thought he was good enough to kite up to the spot you did.

We talk about 'self regulation' in this sport. How do we regulate this crap...

Andrash
WA, 637 posts
4 Feb 2010 12:11PM
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KnightKiter said...

Nice to know though that there are so many people willing to rush to try and help out thinking that we were in trouble.


KnightKiter
....you missed part of it: they were not only concerned about saving your bum, but also to prevent bad publicity to the sport....


Something for you to consider:
During the history of kitesurfing hundreds of kiters either died or seriously injured....and they all thought they were confident and they could make it...

Danger Mouse
WA, 592 posts
4 Feb 2010 12:52PM
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Factor 5 said...

hicky said...

IF THE MANS CONFIDENT ENOUGH TO DO IT,I SAY GO FOR IT !
SO STOP BEING SOFT COCK CITY SLICKERS, AND BAGGING THE HELL OUT OF SOMEONE WHO TRYS SOMETHING DIFFERENT!.OK


I think the problem raised here is not confidence based. If by chance you have to bail your kite its going to end up on the freeway.

I can already see the news headlines...

"20 CAR PILE UP ON FREEWAY CAUSED BY ROGUE KITE!!"

I saw the kites from my office and thought WTF are these guys doing!?!?!....obviously didnt really think it through too well.

and seriously, hicky you are simply another one of those ignorant, only think of yourself types that are fkn everywhere these days. Grow up mate!




Couldn't agree more F5, pull your head in Hicky, it's guys like you that only give a cr*p about yourself and due to this when things go wrong (as they inadvertantly do from time to time) there's no margin for error and another spot gets banned or those wishing to impose regulations on us get one more piece of ammunition to use against us.

D

mistify11
WA, 1 posts
4 Feb 2010 1:45PM
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I think its about etiquette and respect for for the sport. If the sport is shown to be a problem or risk to other river users and the surrounds it may end up being cornered in to specific areas like jetskiing has. They should be up for a challenge but not at the risk of others. I guess these guys are fairly new and didn't think it through first!

dusta
WA, 2940 posts
4 Feb 2010 2:27PM
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Andrash said...

KnightKiter
....you missed part of it: they were not only concerned about saving your bum, but also to prevent bad publicity to the sport....




i must admit when i saw a kite shooting to 12 oclock at the end of hardy street and watching it struggling i was concerned . I only went down to narrows to make sure they were ok and were relieved when i saw someone there to land them

hosh
WA, 236 posts
4 Feb 2010 2:28PM
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That's what the fella a few years back was thinking. Looks like a good place to kite and we all saw the pics of his Takoon sitting in the bus lane on the narrows in peak hour.

If you think it could be the wrong place to kite it probably is.

graceful
WA, 773 posts
4 Feb 2010 2:41PM
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There's a reason your only one doing It dude

Poida
WA, 1916 posts
4 Feb 2010 2:56PM
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heres an old photo, back in the day
unknown kiter

gruezi
WA, 3464 posts
4 Feb 2010 3:02PM
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If you want to challenge yourself with your new found kite skill of actually going up wind, then head out to the ocean and do your thing out there. The river can get crowded with all sorts of boats not to mention the urban infrastructure.

What you all did was lame to say the least. Go out in the ocean for this sort of adventure. River metro kiting adventure is asking for trouble and you look like a nit wit to the locals. If you are afraid of the ocean then stick to the spots the locals are using. Believe me, it has all been tried and done and that is why there is certain spots on the river where we all congregate.

Too many people out there with new found skills who think that they can now go anywhere.................use your kn heads, esp. if you are a tourist.........use the location guide at www.hugedomains.com/domain_profile.cfm?d=waksa&e=com

And for gods sake if you are going to kite Peli or any other river spot then ask the locals how to most safely launch and land............the things I am seeing these days are simply frightening. Credit goes to all the locals doing what they can this year and so far no major screw ups.....touch wood.

Perth is kiting mecca, and all locals must remain vigilant and intervene when we see stuff going down that is shocking and really stupid. I know it gets tiring, but until we have some sort of regulation it is up to us.

poor relative
WA, 9089 posts
4 Feb 2010 5:35PM
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Poida said...






I remember that everyone who owned a green Takoon left Perth for a couple months.

Poida
WA, 1916 posts
4 Feb 2010 9:13PM
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poor relative said...

Poida said...






I remember that everyone who owned a green Takoon left Perth for a couple months.


I think the debate on the forums then was you had to learn to kite on a C kite so you could get punished and respect the kite, and you were not complete until you were punished by a dragging. hehehe

ashkiter
QLD, 431 posts
4 Feb 2010 11:31PM
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Juddy said...

"a kite could get lost from anywhere and still end up in the same spot..."

WRONG.

And you honestly think that this line of thought justifies kiting next to a freeway???
Regardless of how many people you've got backing you up, & being there 'just in case' this is just lunacy...

Kiting 101...stay away from people; buildings; power lines & poles, cars (parked or otherwise) blah blah blah...and you go kiting along side/near a freeway??? FFS...

Sure, I'm going to get burnt for being a party pooper, but everyone on this forum talks about kiters doing the right thing to protect spots & our sport. Sure, nothing happened to you this time, but that was this time.

FYI, a few years back a young Teuro's kite ended up in the traffic on the Narrows Bridge during peak hour simply because he thought he was good enough to kite up to the spot you did.

We talk about 'self regulation' in this sport. How do we regulate this crap...



Do you kids want the access to kiting on the river taken away from us???? I agree with Juddy here on this one.

And to the people who think its a god idea to kite from the raffles - maybe you should read some of the Melville Posts and locals - or are you just metrosexual bloke who wants to show off to the boys at the raffles..........

hicky
WA, 55 posts
4 Feb 2010 9:45PM
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HE HE HAHA ! THAT GOT YAZ GOIN. LOVE TO STAY AND CHAT BUT IM OF TO SHOOT SOME KANGAROOS AND ROAD SIGNS OUT ON THE HIGHWAY WITH ME REDNECK MATES ! YEEHOO!

japie
NSW, 6815 posts
5 Feb 2010 12:50AM
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Bollocks to all the negative comments! If you are a competent kiter go where you like providing it is not prohibited. That section of water is almost useless to other water craft. If you have to kite in the cesspit it is a great spot. You should organise races up and down there, it will give those on the varicose vein something to look at. If it causes a twenty car pile up it will give people something to talk about.

Any kiter who cannot release thier kite the moment he gets into trouble should not be kiting any where near people or obstacles be they 10 meters or 200 meters. For ****s sake you have thousands standing on the banks when that bloody stupid air race is on. One **** up there and potentially hundreds killed. Do you write to the paper about that?

Yes there is a danger that someone will get hurt, probably very soon. It is not contingent on kiting along the freeway.

And think of the publicity. The mind boggles we could advertise! PM me!

graceful
WA, 773 posts
4 Feb 2010 11:41PM
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japie said...

Bollocks to all the negative comments! If you are a competent kiter go where you like providing it is not prohibited. That section of water is almost useless to other water craft. If you have to kite in the cesspit it is a great spot. You should organise races up and down there, it will give those on the varicose vein something to look at. If it causes a twenty car pile up it will give people something to talk about.

Any kiter who cannot release thier kite the moment he gets into trouble should not be kiting any where near people or obstacles be they 10 meters or 200 meters. For ****s sake you have thousands standing on the banks when that bloody stupid air race is on. One **** up there and potentially hundreds killed. Do you write to the paper about that?

Yes there is a danger that someone will get hurt, probably very soon. It is not contingent on kiting along the freeway.


And think of the publicity. The mind boggles we could advertise! PM me!


what a loser, common sence dikk head

hosh
WA, 236 posts
5 Feb 2010 9:45AM
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graceful said...

japie said...

Bollocks to all the negative comments! If you are a competent kiter go where you like providing it is not prohibited. That section of water is almost useless to other water craft. If you have to kite in the cesspit it is a great spot. You should organise races up and down there, it will give those on the varicose vein something to look at. If it causes a twenty car pile up it will give people something to talk about.

Any kiter who cannot release thier kite the moment he gets into trouble should not be kiting any where near people or obstacles be they 10 meters or 200 meters. For ****s sake you have thousands standing on the banks when that bloody stupid air race is on. One **** up there and potentially hundreds killed. Do you write to the paper about that?

Yes there is a danger that someone will get hurt, probably very soon. It is not contingent on kiting along the freeway.


And think of the publicity. The mind boggles we could advertise! PM me!


what a loser, common sence dikk head




+1 to that

hicky
WA, 55 posts
5 Feb 2010 11:59AM
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hosh said...

graceful said...

japie said...

Bollocks to all the negative comments! If you are a competent kiter go where you like providing it is not prohibited. That section of water is almost useless to other water craft. If you have to kite in the cesspit it is a great spot. You should organise races up and down there, it will give those on the varicose vein something to look at. If it causes a twenty car pile up it will give people something to talk about.

Any kiter who cannot release thier kite the moment he gets into trouble should not be kiting any where near people or obstacles be they 10 meters or 200 meters. For ****s sake you have thousands standing on the banks when that bloody stupid air race is on. One **** up there and potentially hundreds killed. Do you write to the paper about that?

Yes there is a danger that someone will get hurt, probably very soon. It is not contingent on kiting along the freeway.


And think of the publicity. The mind boggles we could advertise! PM me!


what a loser, common sence dikk head




+1 to that


so true.on ya Japie!

japie
NSW, 6815 posts
5 Feb 2010 4:30PM
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I love this forum. Perhaps it is the kid in me but some people are so predictable, more so than throwing stones onto the hen house roof at night to get a cackle.

"what a loser, common sence dikk head"

Only a cretin whose brain is battling for oxygen that has been displaced by testosterone and inflated opinions can come up with that. If you were a fish your species would have been extinct shortly after man learned to thread a hook.

I was taking the piss, ( best copy and paste that when you do a search for it's meaning as your communications skills are obviously sorely lacking).

Hook, line and sinker!

Anybody who sails anything knows that the locals know the best spots and if you are willing to kite the Swan effluent system the place to go is Applecross, Pelican point or point Walter.

But you are laboring under and illusion if you think one accident in an unusual spot is going to get the sport banned in the event of an accident. Sure, if people break the rules on the beach it may well have an impact, and rightly so. Locals are then justified in telling you what to do.

But this mass hysteria that boils over when anything unusual happens becomes very tiresome and one has to forgive a bloke for having a bit of fun.



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