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Kiting to be restricted North of the path Brighton

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Created by ADS > 9 months ago, 29 Sep 2011
ADS
WA, 365 posts
29 Sep 2011 2:40PM
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I am concerned as to the suggested restrictions at Scarbs put forward by the local polies to Stirling Council.




Thread here:
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/Western-Australia/City-of-Stirling-Exclusion-Zones/?page=1

The area South of the blue line is suggested as the Kite area.
Having ridden at Scarbs for quite a few years now, I can say that I mainly ride North of the blue line up to where the Windsurfers congregate as this is where the best banks are.
If the Polies get their way with council, we will not be able to waveride there and will be relegated to the South where the waves are even more sh!tty.
Does anyone else have a problem with this? Seems like apartheid to me.
Is WAKSA involved and supporting this proposal from the Windsurfers?
If this is accepted, the Polies would have succeeded in basically inreasing the size of the area they ride while getting rid of the kiters completely - win for them and lose for us.
Not happy

eppo
WA, 9480 posts
29 Sep 2011 3:03PM
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Agreed about banks, but also a lot of people swimming etc here...

Mark _australia
WA, 22287 posts
29 Sep 2011 3:36PM
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According to the other thread there are sooo many other places to go (hundreds, apparently) and the polies should stop whinging

Maybe, as per my assertion which I have been flamed for, the Council should leave us all alone - and leave it as is which has been working.

ADS said "If this is accepted, the Polies would have succeeded in basically inreasing the size of the area they ride while getting rid of the kiters completely - win for them and lose for us."
Trouble is the current situation has totally wrecked it for windsurfers but also put them closer to kiters which will create agro at some stage.
So either way is bad.

Separate areas designated by agreement between WAKSA and WWA - YES (like what we had)

New bylaws passed to ban us from an area and create even smaller areas with increased conflict just to protect swimmers from incidents that have not happened - NO

ADS
WA, 365 posts
29 Sep 2011 3:48PM
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Mark,

So, like I mentioned, we will be banned from the best area? Win for the Windsurfers no?
Can't see it working...

"Separate areas designated by agreement between WAKSA and WWA - YES (like what we had)"


WAKSA may have recommended Kiters stay out of this area, but this certainly wasn't law or regulation.
We shouldn't just roll over and cop this. Once an area is lost, it may well be gone for good.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
29 Sep 2011 6:09PM
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I read Marks report card from school , from 35 years ago.
It said he was a good student, but , dosent play well with others.

Nothing has changed in his senior yearsLOL

Mark _australia
WA, 22287 posts
29 Sep 2011 5:40PM
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ADS said...

We shouldn't just roll over and cop this. Once an area is lost, it may well be gone for good.


Yeah I said that about the windsurfer ban but was totally smashed by 90% of the kiters.

A ban for windsurfers is another step toward a ban for kiters and vice versa. Maybe we should all oppose it together but given the sniping online I doubt it

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
29 Sep 2011 7:46PM
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I dont think you got smashed by the kiters??

might have been the usual light hearted mucking around that always goes on between the sports. But you have been here a hell of a long time and know its all in fun.Dont take it to heart,,,we do love you.

Most just said it was a good idea to keep fast moving windsurfers/kiters away from swimmers which is the number one priority.

Mark _australia
WA, 22287 posts
29 Sep 2011 6:14PM
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lotofwind said...

I dont think you got smashed by the kiters??

might have been the usual light hearted mucking around that always goes on between the sports. But you have been here a hell of a long time and know its all in fun.Dont take it to heart,,,we do love you.

Most just said it was a good idea to keep fast moving windsurfers/kiters away from swimmers which is the number one priority.


True? I love youse all then

BTW it is true you saw my report card from 35 yrs agao - I was 3 then - very advanced

MIKO
QLD, 408 posts
29 Sep 2011 9:51PM
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Most just said it was a good idea to keep fast moving windsurfers/kiters away from swimmers which is the number one priority.


Not my sandpit, BUT why not move the swimmers on to another beach if this place is heralded as a wind location, if this so called risk (kiter/poley smashes swimmer) that councils are ****ting them selves about move the swimmers on, litigation blah blah blah.
Have we accepted that swimmers have more rights than others ?
and yeh pollies listen to numbers and there own self survival and nothing else so we are all f....d.

hitch_hiker
WA, 385 posts
29 Sep 2011 8:06PM
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Always stay well clear of swimmers and surfers, but as for the councillors they can get ****ed!! Come and get me on my downwinder Bitches!!

stamp
QLD, 2770 posts
29 Sep 2011 10:24PM
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MIKO said...

Most just said it was a good idea to keep fast moving windsurfers/kiters away from swimmers which is the number one priority.

Not my sandpit, BUT why not move the swimmers on to another beach if this place is heralded as a wind location, if this so called risk (kiter/poley smashes swimmer) that councils are ****ting them selves about move the swimmers on, litigation blah blah blah.
Have we accepted that swimmers have more rights than others ?




move the swimmers on? for a handful of kiters/poleys you think the council should prohibit locals from swimming at a city beach?





MIKO
QLD, 408 posts
29 Sep 2011 10:34PM
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stamp said...

MIKO said...

Most just said it was a good idea to keep fast moving windsurfers/kiters away from swimmers which is the number one priority.

Not my sandpit, BUT why not move the swimmers on to another beach if this place is heralded as a wind location, if this so called risk (kiter/poley smashes swimmer) that councils are ****ting them selves about move the swimmers on, litigation blah blah blah.
Have we accepted that swimmers have more rights than others ?




move the swimmers on? for a handful of kiters/poleys you think the council should prohibit locals from swimming at a city beach?








is there only a handfull ?

tgladman
WA, 500 posts
29 Sep 2011 9:36PM
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MIKO said...

Most just said it was a good idea to keep fast moving windsurfers/kiters away from swimmers which is the number one priority.


Not my sandpit, BUT why not move the swimmers on to another beach if this place is heralded as a wind location, if this so called risk (kiter/poley smashes swimmer) that councils are ****ting them selves about move the swimmers on, litigation blah blah blah.
Have we accepted that swimmers have more rights than others ?
and yeh pollies listen to numbers and there own self survival and nothing else so we are all f....d.

Miko the WHOLE WA coastline is a wind location over summer. Moving swimmers from this location is not an option at all. If the d/winder crew stays away from the blue zone (myself included) over summer the poleys and kiters should be able to utilize the current area without much problem. IMO

spikeysteve
WA, 84 posts
29 Sep 2011 11:04PM
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anyone else noticed scarboro slsc tagged wrong in the google earth image?

Underoath
QLD, 2432 posts
30 Sep 2011 1:29AM
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spikeysteve said...

anyone else noticed scarboro slsc tagged wrong in the google earth image?


Yeah, at first glace- I thought - struth there taking the whole beach........

You couldnt store too many budgie smugglers in that building.

getfunky
WA, 4485 posts
30 Sep 2011 1:09AM
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Yaaaawwwwnnnn..

Wake me up when it's actually windy.

tightlines
WA, 3475 posts
30 Sep 2011 1:19AM
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getfunky said...

Yaaaawwwwnnnn..

Wake me up when it's actually windy.


Yo wake up Funky, it's been the windiest winter since I started kiting and the best winter for surf in years!!!!

and better still summer is just around the corner.

Toots
WA, 271 posts
30 Sep 2011 2:04AM
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Spewn

default
WA, 1255 posts
30 Sep 2011 9:00AM
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October, even most of November is too early for the exclusion zone to commence.

Water temps are still bloody cold in October/November. Good, dense, cold seabreezes just add to the chill.

I dont expect to see many swimmers in October. They stuffed up with the dates.

ADS
WA, 365 posts
30 Sep 2011 9:13AM
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The original council exclusion zone (not the proposed one above) starts December 1.

getfunky
WA, 4485 posts
30 Sep 2011 9:28AM
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tightlines said...

getfunky said...

Yaaaawwwwnnnn..

Wake me up when it's actually windy.


Yo wake up Funky, it's been the windiest winter since I started kiting and the best winter for surf in years!!!!

and better still summer is just around the corner.


It's sooo cozy under my doona watching footy with a nice cup of warm cocoa.

Some of us had an interest in footy during September after all.

Yeh - had a great sesh a couple of weeks ago.. but BRING ORN SUMMER!!

default
WA, 1255 posts
30 Sep 2011 12:04PM
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ADS said...

The original council exclusion zone (not the proposed one above) starts December 1.


yes, however Dec is just the "kick off" date this year, to allow stakeholders time to adapt, create signage etc. Next year and every year after, 1st October is the commencement...bit early in my books.

ADS
WA, 365 posts
30 Sep 2011 12:32PM
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True



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