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Naish Gear 2011

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Created by Weta > 9 months ago, 16 Jul 2010
Weta
WA, 893 posts
16 Jul 2010 12:15AM
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Some early pics







toppleover
QLD, 2055 posts
16 Jul 2010 9:24AM
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Shows all the new kites in here even the Park, unfortunately all the details are in Spanish...at least I think it,s Spanish.

http://www.thecornershopparis.fr/docs/ailes_naish2011.pdf

2011 boards

www.thecornershopparis.fr/docs/kiteboards_naish2011.pdf

Clintos
QLD, 88 posts
16 Jul 2010 10:25AM
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toppleover said...

Shows all the new kites in here even the Park, unfortunately all the details are in Spanish...at least I think it,s Spanish.

http://www.thecornershopparis.fr/docs/ailes_naish2011.pdf

2011 boards

www.thecornershopparis.fr/docs/kiteboards_naish2011.pdf


Awesome... but it's French...
>> http://www.thecornershopparis.fr/docs/ailes_naish2011.pdf
>> www.thecornershopparis.fr
>> thecornershopparis.fr
>> .fr

ewan kite
VIC, 928 posts
16 Jul 2010 10:39AM
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toppleover said...

Shows all the new kites in here even the Park, unfortunately all the details are in Spanish...at least I think it,s Spanish.

http://www.thecornershopparis.fr/docs/ailes_naish2011.pdf

2011 boards

www.thecornershopparis.fr/docs/kiteboards_naish2011.pdf


yeww thats sick, where do you find that stuff....the new park looks different, i spose its guna be kinda like a freestlye non c-kite.

ALso i think thats french

dusta
WA, 2940 posts
16 Jul 2010 9:42AM
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considering the domain is .fr it is defaintely french

Trent R
WA, 39 posts
16 Jul 2010 10:34AM
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Bar is the same stupid design as it was last year;



The line that I'm pointing at is a 2mm line which suppose to handle all your body weight + board + harness + kick from the kite for a jump.

1- 2mm Line will snap
2- You will go for warranty, they will tell you that you're to heavy (85kg) for your 12m kite.
3- You'll pay $30/week to replace the line once a week or you can "FIX THE PROBLEM" your self by replacing that line with a stronger line
4- Next year they'll release the same stupid thing which means; "we don't give a sh!t about our customers and we don't even bother to test the stupid bar before we sell it"

I'm done with Nasih. I've received a lot of good advises from kiters in this forum and I felt like I owe you guys so here is my pay back.

SaveTheWhales
WA, 1877 posts
16 Jul 2010 10:53AM
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Very interesting to see Naish has used a mix of Pacific tribal graphic designs..

Maybe they enjoyed playing that brunnotti kiteloop game so much they thought theyd use similar graphics

Sweetaz Brunnotti Bumble bee - might be my next board after I learn how to use one



see the face in the yello area and there is also the tradition fish hook - another angle gives you a pic of west island NZ oops i meant Australia
A great symbol of pacific unity



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The bolt has the traditional wave designs






Good onya cousy Robbie Bro

BrisKites
QLD, 1292 posts
16 Jul 2010 3:30PM
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Trent R said...

Bar is the same stupid design as it was last year;



The line that I'm pointing at is a 2mm line which suppose to handle all your body weight + board + harness + kick from the kite for a jump.

1- 2mm Line will snap
2- You will go for warranty, they will tell you that you're to heavy (85kg) for your 12m kite.
3- You'll pay $30/week to replace the line once a week or you can "FIX THE PROBLEM" your self by replacing that line with a stronger line
4- Next year they'll release the same stupid thing which means; "we don't give a sh!t about our customers and we don't even bother to test the stupid bar before we sell it"

I'm done with Nasih. I've received a lot of good advises from kiters in this forum and I felt like I owe you guys so here is my pay back.


Hundreds of other kiters have had no issue with that line, how much do you weigh?

If it is a genuine warranty issue your retailer should convey all the details accurately. We have had no issues with any genuine warranty claims through Windgenuity/Naish. This can only lead me to believe one of two things
1. Your retailer has failed to convey all of the information accurately
2. The line breakage was not from "normal use" and their was another cause for the breakage.

If you still believe it was the first then please contact me and I can assist you.

Trent R
WA, 39 posts
16 Jul 2010 3:33PM
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BrisKites said...

...how much do you weigh?
...
1. Your retailer has failed to convey all of the information accurately
2. The line breakage was not from "normal use" and their was another cause for the breakage.

If you still believe it was the first then please contact me and I can assist you.



I'm 85kg and it is in my first post and I had a 2010 12m Helix and it snapped 2 times, both when I was trying to boost so no "normal use" for a free style kite is it?

I've gone to my dealer here in Perth and they contacted Naish, guess what was the answer?

Hundreds of other kiters have had no issue with that line, how much do you weigh?


85kg

If you expect that a single 2mm line should handle all the force I need to get my self out of the water and jump with it maybe you expecting too much.

I spend that $30 to replace it, it snapped again so I replaced it with a thicker line and I've sold the kite.

Instead of closing your eyes to logic defending the brand you're selling just think about my claim for 10 seconds and then maybe you can send an email to them and they replace that line before they release all their 2011 bars.

Or you can assume that I'm another forum troll and I'm trying to sand bag Naish to sell another brand

Lu
14 posts
16 Jul 2010 3:37PM
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Trent i know multiple ppl who ride naish including my 105kg partner and when its windy he rides my 9m cult (i cant say it works for me cause the fact im 55kg kinda doesnt add to my argument) and has tried the 9m bolt in windy conditions and its all been fine...
i don't think windgenuity would have said it was your weight through normal usage and if it happened to multiple ppl it would have been mentioned by lots of ppl here, which i have not seen, and they would have changed it.

toppleover
QLD, 2055 posts
16 Jul 2010 6:24PM
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Definitely trying the new Charger, hope it,s one pump this time.

mofo
QLD, 91 posts
16 Jul 2010 6:39PM
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Is this new from Naish ..



.Cool tribal graphics.>>

BrisKites
QLD, 1292 posts
16 Jul 2010 9:07PM
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Trent R said...

I'm 85kg and it is in my first post and I had a 2010 12m Helix and it snapped 2 times, both when I was trying to boost so no "normal use" for a free style kite is it?

I've gone to my dealer here in Perth and they contacted Naish, guess what was the answer?

Hundreds of other kiters have had no issue with that line, how much do you weigh?


85kg

If you expect that a single 2mm line should handle all the force I need to get my self out of the water and jump with it maybe you expecting too much.

I spend that $30 to replace it, it snapped again so I replaced it with a thicker line and I've sold the kite.

Instead of closing your eyes to logic defending the brand you're selling just think about my claim for 10 seconds and then maybe you can send an email to them and they replace that line before they release all their 2011 bars.

Or you can assume that I'm another forum troll and I'm trying to sand bag Naish to sell another brand

No closed eyes here, if you look closely the line is thicker and stronger than the others. I am 84kg and have had no issue on my Torches, nor have any of our other Naish customers.
FYI- Using a single front line from the bar is a common practice used by a number of brands including North.

Either way I wasn't trying to argue with you, I was offering assistance.

Jason

terryzarmzof
QLD, 336 posts
17 Jul 2010 12:29AM
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i would say naish has one of the better quality lines after seeing what happens with some of the other big brands. change brands to cabrinah and see how u go with pulleys and lines. any decent kite shop will have it sorted for you. i have a couple 2010 naish kites and the lines are still perfect after heavy use

whatiswhat
11 posts
17 Jul 2010 3:44AM
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anyone who's been through anything knows naish is nothing. its a hard think to say cause there'e wierd seppos trying to say otherwise but they've not done a thing for a year. no way brands like north and naish should be able to peddle **** like they're trying to now. I don't care cause i wont buy it- your thoughts?

KiteNutt
QLD, 280 posts
17 Jul 2010 7:39AM
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whatiswhat said...

anyone who's been through anything knows naish is nothing. its a hard think to say cause there'e wierd seppos trying to say otherwise but they've not done a thing for a year. no way brands like north and naish should be able to peddle **** like they're trying to now. I don't care cause i wont buy it- your thoughts?


Rabble of the week award for you mate...



I have had a 10.5 helix for 10 mths, it gets flogged every time I use it. I'm 86kg and regulary max it out in over 25 knts.

I've had/have 8 kites and it's by far the best flying and built kite and bar system I've tried.

toppleover
QLD, 2055 posts
17 Jul 2010 8:30AM
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dont feed the trolls !!!

koma
VIC, 760 posts
17 Jul 2010 8:00PM
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Trent R said...I'm 85kg and it is in my first post and I had a 2010 12m Helix and it snapped 2 times, both when I was trying to boost so no "normal use" for a free style kite is it?


I've spent the last 2 years on Naish kites (mostly Torches and Alliances) and have never heard of that issue before. There's also a fair few quite enthusiastic Torch riders at my local beaches who are competing at state and national level who push their kites harder than i do, who have also had no issues. Probably best to take the discussion to another thread, but have you got a photo of how the line failed? Just thinking possibly damage to the line or fraying might have weakened it... but even still those lines are rated to... what... 400kg, probably more for that thicker section.

Anyway... back on topic...
Looking forward to seeing what the Park is like. 3 strut, 4 line, shallow canopy C'ish, hopefully with a bit of Torch-style mixed in. Should be a good kite for the GF. ;)

cel23
QLD, 175 posts
18 Jul 2010 7:07AM
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Hell pumped for the park!!!!!! Some fasttrack time like a month...
thanks :P

Taurus
VIC, 189 posts
18 Jul 2010 9:35PM
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I'm disappointed the bar hasn't changed this season. The trim line doesn't last very long and I'm also not happy with the current safety system...when the forward line connected to my safety snapped I found myself in a very uncomfortable position when I had an out of control powered kite that I couldn't release because I had others downwind of me. Design needs to be improved.

mthomo
VIC, 34 posts
18 Jul 2010 9:49PM
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hope they have fixed the leading edge porblems on the 12m torch

marco
WA, 324 posts
18 Jul 2010 9:42PM
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Taurus said...

I'm disappointed the bar hasn't changed this season. The trim line doesn't last very long


My trim lines are fine, I used it the whole season....

Torch
WA, 521 posts
18 Jul 2010 10:45PM
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only problem with the bar is that they need to change the angle of the cleet for easier sheeting of the depower ( pulling on the depower for unhooked riding takes me a couple goes, but im a bit slow..)
other than that, love '10 models so '11 can only be better

terryzarmzof
QLD, 336 posts
19 Jul 2010 6:58AM
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i agree i have been through 1 trim line as well and i am used to the cleat now, overall i think its one of the simpler and better designed systems and not bulky.

captian
39 posts
19 Jul 2010 6:19AM
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just get a North





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BrisKites
QLD, 1292 posts
19 Jul 2010 9:10AM
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Torch said...

only problem with the bar is that they need to change the angle of the cleet for easier sheeting of the depower ( pulling on the depower for unhooked riding takes me a couple goes, but im a bit slow..)
other than that, love '10 models so '11 can only be better


The Safety attachment has been moved so it no longer aligns with the depower cleat.

loverboy
WA, 614 posts
19 Jul 2010 9:48AM
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great- that was one of the issues I had with last years kite, the safety and the depower getting tangled....have to question why people come on here with very few posts and bleat about a brands unreliability- especially Naish, even though their move to Sigma has been unsuccessful imo they have always produced quality gear that is strong and robust.

Kadkhah
WA, 381 posts
19 Jul 2010 10:47AM
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I have a Helix 2010 12m and my center line couldn't handle the weight and I had to replace it with a thicker line.
Airush have the same center line too.

Main reason I didn't complain till now is because the resellers are attacking the users here and accusing us for trolling. I'm just a user, I've been with Naish since 2006, I'm happy with their kites but I always had issues with Naish bars.

(Note: Torch is a 5 liner and your load will divide into 3 center lines)

ewan kite
VIC, 928 posts
19 Jul 2010 3:17PM
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Kadkhah said...



(Note: Torch is a 5 liner and your load will divide into 3 center lines)


NAh the torch has 5 lines but they split half way up and the 5th line doesnt take load.

Charl dv
WA, 2485 posts
19 Jul 2010 9:11PM
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i just dont see the point of systems like that, much simpler and cleaner just having the lines end near the CL line. Kite feels better, lot simpler replacing broken lines as you dont need to buy brand specific kits or get lines cut to length, and safer as mentioned above with when the centre line snaps ur only attached to your two back lines or a 5th and two backs if your on a torch, where as if something snaps on a bar set up in the LF or Slingy method when one snaps you still have a front line attached and can use that to kill the power and bring your kite down.

another thing i noticed with this system is:
it makes the kite turn faster (**** for unhooking)
it makes you lose feel of the kite when unhooked (also **** for unhooking).

^not just referring to naish but to every brand which uses that y split front line system.

vader
NSW, 418 posts
21 Jul 2010 8:53AM
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kite gear is at the end

nice vid



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