Good advice Trant.
Must say IMO - it is often the experienced crew that cause a fair bit of trouble round these parts.
Cockiness and overconfidence are fatal in this sport.
Everyone fks up some time - but newbs often expect to and take extra caution - whereas know-it-alls never expect to fk up and wind up involving others in their arrogance.
"How many people have to tell you it was your fault before you actually realise it was really your fault." (Saffer) -- like get over the 'fault' thing dude.
It is your opinion and shared by many here it seems -- but it is not mine. And until it is tested at law neither you, nor I, can be 100% certain.
You can rant on till space runs out on the server for all I care. The 'no blame .. all at fault' paradigm is in your head -- not out here in the real world.
Come on down and we'll do the extreme scenario again (on paper). This time I might snap my neck and so bankrupt your business and personal estate through a civil action that you'll wonder what happened to your little dream world on the waves.
It has nothing to do with being distracted while driving on a road. Totally different situation.
I claim it would have been a difficult but safe launching without being interrupted. You are not in a position to know otherwise. How do I know? I did several in previous days under similar (but slightly less) conditions with the express purpose of aborting and testing emergency features etc. This was, in part, continuing that series -- although I was planning to go out for a bit of practice in the water this time. Previously I might just pack up and go home. There are not crowds of people at this spot at that those times.
Gee rsc book a holiday man, im gonna stupidly say something here, why didnt you pull your safety bro? im too tired from a killer kite trip to type or read your dribble, gonna roll a wafer thin, have a swim and chill
maybe you should do the same
The secret to happiness - something to love, something to do, and something to hope for.
Crikey dude, I thought you said you had a life?
Plenty of worse things happen at sea, and when they do you wish everyone was you're friend.
Lawsuits? WTF...
What happened to kiting? It used to be fun, just a few blokes who came from 'extreme sport' backgrounds, who knew the risks of strapping into oversized traction kites. Went hard, went big, show ponied for the crowds on the beach. Chicks used to dig us. Now its full of overweight, oversafe, overly verbose dumbasses. Can't you and your type (rsc) just **** of back to the golf courses and bowling greens and leave the beaches for us real kiters?
thanks
I was patient but can no longer hold my breath
The mind set of wanting to share responsibilities and the threat of suing is the saddest change to Australia.
I migrated to Australia 17 years ago from Europe and loved the freedom, unlimited access,easy going people and wilingness to resolve any issues with a cold beer or a punch up.
Now, it has been destroyed because of the americanism and idiots like some clearly inhabiting this forums are suing right left and center for the purpose of making money.
Now public liability insurance are so expensive that 99% of all activities are gone and kids will be very bored in the future (can't rent quads,jet slis.beach buggies,para gliding......).
I for one think that you should swallow a big shovel of concrete, grow some balls ,become a man and take 100% responsibility for your own actions.
You may find it liberating.
Rsc was there any other kiters on the beach within the area of you that could have given you a launch. In QLD where we kite it docent matter if the guy next to you is your mate or not they will 99.999% of the time give you a launch or land, no questions asked if you ask them nicely. As you walk up the beach towards any land area, if there are guys on the beach (nearly always if there is wind) they always acknowledge you and all you have to do is put your hand on your head and someone will land you. Is this not the case in WA ?. One of the things other than the kiting itself that drew me to this sport was the way everyone looks out for each other, friend or not. We only self launch if there is absolutely no other option and if the wind is really up there or sketchy then you wait till someone can help. The sport isn't full of self centred law analysing finger pointers and it is best we all keep it that way.
I can’t resist either....
rsc ... whether intentional or to raise havoc, you ignore your wisely worded first sentence-
“I'm relatively new to kiteboarding and note generally high levels of anger and outrage with low levels of mature effective communication skills.”
Your anger and didactic pedantry obscures whether you actually learnt anything from your launch disaster. I’ve had many laucnh stacks and all were due to my launch error including once with incorrectly tied lines. 100%.
If you were launched 10m and snapped a line, you were dangerously overpowered, lacked competent control (including keeping the kite on the beach until you were sure the timing was right) and/or had old or faulty equipment. Doesn’t sound like you even now understand what you did wrong
Blame the “young lady dressed as an instructor”, and blame everyone in this discussion –unless they support your rant, but your appeals to academia or litigious determiniation for eveidence based settlement, show a markedly “low level of mature effctive communication skills”. Take on board some of these comments, man up, and leave off playing the rationalist matyr
rsc what are you thinking man, you are just going to put your self in a corner and no where to go.
breath out and let it go.
rsc - Does the sheer scale of anti sentiment towards your views seriously NOT ring any alarm bells for you???!!! Think most here would agree that a seriously good LONG look at yourself in a full length mirror is well in order for you mate....
hahahaha LMAO
This is hilarious hahahahaha
Been at work all day,cant believe this is still going,I thought it was clear cut an dried.
rsc.....mate have a beer or 2 an some serious chill pills an try looking at it from a diff perspective it will all become clear
If that doesnt work maybe a good ..... will do the trick !!
failing that, smoke some weeeeeed hahaha