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Forums > Kitesurfing General

Waroo pulleys, pulling through knots

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Created by Darkside > 9 months ago, 10 Dec 2011
Darkside
WA, 27 posts
10 Dec 2011 8:27PM
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Guys,

Today i had both pulleys that are attached to the kite, have the knots pull through when powering the kite.The left side happened first, then after reattaching and testing, the right side pulled through. Anyone had this happen, and if so what did you do to remedy the problem

Bo
WA, 192 posts
10 Dec 2011 10:02PM
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Sounds like the bridle had an aftermarket job done to it? What year is the kite, did you buy it second hand?

Post a photo so Joe Millen can have a look at it...

Darkside
WA, 27 posts
10 Dec 2011 10:37PM
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It was an 08 and yes i did purchase it second hand, worked allright last season, today was the first day out.

puppetonastring
WA, 3619 posts
10 Dec 2011 11:13PM
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Bo is right - it does sound like something is amiss.
Bring it in to KSS Scarbs or Woodys on Tues.
Or phone me on 0430 966 937
Im sure we can sort it - somehow?

Edgeguts
WA, 69 posts
11 Dec 2011 3:47PM
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Darkside said...

It was an 08 and yes i did purchase it second hand, worked allright last season, today was the first day out.



Get a new kite Bob u tightass

Darkside
WA, 27 posts
11 Dec 2011 4:19PM
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Here are a couple of the offending pulley, knot


Greenfinger
WA, 239 posts
11 Dec 2011 4:31PM
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you are doing it wrong
try this

dave......
WA, 2119 posts
11 Dec 2011 4:34PM
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EDIT^^^^^^Beaten by the above....
You need to take the p-line off and feed the knot through the hole of the pulley then loop it over the pulley, creating a kind of half hitch. The pulley hole was not designed to be connected by a knot only. It looks like the pulleys were replaced and not attached properly. Hope this helps. a picture speaks a thousand words.

Darkside
WA, 27 posts
11 Dec 2011 4:37PM
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Thats what i was consdering doing, will check over the rest to double check.
Thanks

Adrenalin Rush
QLD, 876 posts
11 Dec 2011 6:48PM
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Wow!! Im amazed it lasted at all like that. Let me know if I can help at all, but I think you should have it sussed.

Joe

puppetonastring
WA, 3619 posts
15 Dec 2011 9:12PM
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How freaky is this..........
So Darkside brings his 2007 9M Waroo in as suggested. As expected some douche bag had sold him the kite with attachment points dangerously way off regulation.
We worked out immediately that the problem was a total DIY botch of the attachment of the outer pulley to the leading edge. Problem then was we didnt have a model of how it should be set up according to 'the book' (which doesnt exist but we are fixing that problem too now).
Awaiting return advice from the kite gods ... guess wot....
Another dude rocks in asking for a bridle line he had lost off (u guessed it) his 2007 9M Waroo
Very conveniently we were able to replace dude 2's missing bridle line (from our kite wrecking yard) while we checked out the standard attachment set-up of dude 1's problem pulley .
AND... This is probably the first 2007 Waroo I have seen thru the shop ever. 2 in the same day???? with the 2nd solving the 1st problem..... wooooooo

Sometimes u are just left wondering

Darkside
WA, 27 posts
15 Dec 2011 10:39PM
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The gods have at least done something right for me today

dave......
WA, 2119 posts
16 Dec 2011 6:31PM
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puppetonastring said...

How freaky is this..........
So Darkside brings his 2007 9M Waroo in as suggested. As expected some douche bag had sold him the kite with attachment points dangerously way off regulation.
We worked out immediately that the problem was a total DIY botch of the attachment of the outer pulley to the leading edge. Problem then was we didnt have a model of how it should be set up according to 'the book' (which doesnt exist but we are fixing that problem too now).
Awaiting return advice from the kite gods ... guess wot....
Another dude rocks in asking for a bridle line he had lost off (u guessed it) his 2007 9M Waroo
Very conveniently we were able to replace dude 2's missing bridle line (from our kite wrecking yard) while we checked out the standard attachment set-up of dude 1's problem pulley .
AND... This is probably the first 2007 Waroo I have seen thru the shop ever. 2 in the same day???? with the 2nd solving the 1st problem..... wooooooo

Sometimes u are just left wondering


Wicked puppet, you could have also figured it out using the latest Bullaroo kite. The latest bularoo is a highly refined version, and a sick kite, but same config. as a 2007. Dont fix whats not broke. Some parts eg P-lines are hard to get, I wish they would post the line length on the websites, it would make things a lot easier and guys back on the water, quickly. Customer service when things go wrong is when you keep a customer for life..

Best is considered not a top end kite in Australia, yet one of the biggest brands in the rest of the world, ever heard of Neil Pryde????, thats who they do R&D with. Ford, Holden, ha, Id rather buy a toyota or subaru

Best, Shannon Best a Coori (SP?) Aboriginal, that invented the S-bend, peace out!

Rattlehead
QLD, 555 posts
16 Dec 2011 8:57PM
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Darkside said...

Here are a couple of the offending pulley, knot





Do yourself a favor ,undo those pulleys and throw them to the sh1thouse.had one of those cheap ronston ones explode on me a couple of weeks ago .Nearly drowned me and nearly destroyed my kite . Was on a 12 m in about 30 kts just landed a huge boost the kite loaded up ,the rope actually pulled throughout ( ripped through ) the plastic eye part of the pulley ( not the sheave end , the other).this caused the kite to go into the dreaded death loop.lucky for me is a fifth line kite so I hit the safety . Ended having a big swim back to the beach.

Have changed all pulleys on my kites the the newer 20mm to ronstan ones (like the ones naish kites come with) .harken have also just released a nice little 18 mm block which would also do the job.

Bo
WA, 192 posts
17 Dec 2011 7:16AM
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Geez Rattlehead in 30knots I'm fully lit on my 7m. You, out on a 12? I guess the type of kite it is and body weight plays a role, but a 12 of any type really would give you minimal control over your destiny there mate? I guess there's a thrill in that for you?

Anyhow the point is that this kind of "overclocking" of your kite's gonna increase the likelyhood of meltdown. Following manufactur's ratings and using original parts would be what Id advise above all.

My opinion for what its worth. Could be wrong of course.

dave......
WA, 2119 posts
17 Dec 2011 2:55PM
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puppetonastring said...

How freaky is this..........
So Darkside brings his 2007 9M Waroo in as suggested. As expected some douche bag had sold him the kite with attachment points dangerously way off regulation.
We worked out immediately that the problem was a total DIY botch of the attachment of the outer pulley to the leading edge. Problem then was we didnt have a model of how it should be set up according to 'the book' (which doesnt exist but we are fixing that problem too now).
Awaiting return advice from the kite gods ... guess wot....


Hey guys, Puppet and darkside. The manuals are available online, I forgot to mention. 2006 onwards, all products..... this is a great resource for anyone wanting to DIY and for kiteshops doing repairs, etc.

www.bestkiteboarding.com/en-us/gear/accessories/

Hope this helps with any issues for anyone.

Rattlehead
QLD, 555 posts
17 Dec 2011 7:43PM
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Bo said...

Geez Rattlehead in 30knots I'm fully lit on my 7m. You, out on a 12? I guess the type of kite it is and body weight plays a role, but a 12 of any type really would give you minimal control over your destiny there mate? I guess there's a thrill in that for you?

Anyhow the point is that this kind of "overclocking" of your kite's gonna increase the likelyhood of meltdown. Following manufactur's ratings and using original parts would be what Id advise above all.

My opinion for what its worth. Could be wrong of course.




When I went out it was about 25 kts very solid not gusty at all , a nice sea breeze ,at 115kgs 25 kts is perfect for me on the 12 ,I love sailing over powered ( bigger boosts ) . The wind picked up , rather than waste time to come in to pump up a 9 ,stayed out on 12m.30 knots is about the top end of the 12 for me.
No matter what size the kite , the amout of power they can potentially make is unbelievable , my post was not to brag on how big a kite I can hold down , was to warn people of the weeknesses of these particular blocks.

Jay



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