I can understand that it's getting crowded in places such as the Pond or at Woodies where people gather up for the precious flat water but apart from that the coastline is massive. Anyone that don't mind some chop can just kite out a few 100 meters and get as much space as they want.
There is a few beaches where there is teaching going on but none of them offers something especially good. So why not just stay away from them? Cause beginners tends to come back to the beach where they learned(which I recon is a good thing cause then it's usually instructors around that can help out if something goes pear shaped)
And if you insist kiting on a beach full off learners, just launch and kite out a little. No need to show off next to the beach or in front of a body dragger that need to focus 100% on the kite to not crash it.
How long do you have to kite to forget how life was as a newbie? Give the learners some slack, they just wanna get in to the sport we all love.
I rather kite next to(and feel safer) a learner than a show pony....
I certainly don't insist on kiting next to a learner. The kiting area is pretty small at Mullaloo and a couple of people practicing body dragging combined with a few people doing the walk of shame with kites out to sea is enough to block the beach completely. That's without the guys standing with kites at twelve at the waters edge (just staring at them)for extended periods.
Combine the above with the latest craze " the euro tack" and it's pretty frustrating to anyone hoping to catch a couple of Mullas tiddlers or enjoy a nice carve on some of the flat water close to shore where a wave has just broken.
What's the answer?
Learn at Pinnaroo. Plenty of room up there for all the kite gazing and dragging you could ever want.
When you have the basics and can stay upwind without having to stare at your kite the whole time then come to the loo
Respect.... No euro tacking, no teaching your mates( when you clearly don't know yourself), No kite gazing, kite out over the water,
Ride in , do what you want ( jump, transition, search for a little weeny wave etc) then ride out. Keep away from people on the beach. Don't try anything stupid in with in double line length of the beach.
BTW that's not localism just recognition of the size constraints of the Mullaloo kiting area and the fact that kiting at Mullaloo was very nearly not allowed at all ( and that was before it got crazy)
Abuse it and we all lose it.
I certainly not encouraging irresponsible behavior. I kite mainly in the pond and there is certainly enough of it there(see separate thread...)
But I really don't like that "locals" think that they have rights over the newcomers(it's kind of ironic in a country where the natives have been pretty much extincted...) I recon most beginners that do something wrong listen up when you tell them something. Everybody don't have kiting friends that can help them out and advice(and some get's **** advice's) I never got a unfriendly word back(I have even got request for kite lessons after a few friendly words of instruction)
If u go down to woodies beach 1 there is some locals that find enjoyment in kiting close to bodydragging learners, I find that absolutely retarded. Woodies beach 1 is crowded of beginners and learners but don't offer anything especially good so why someone that actually have developed some kind of kite skills chose that beach goes over my head.
I think the only solution to the problem is communication. If that does not help there can be time for other actions. Maybe WAKSA can recommend a few certain beaches to beginners?
Imagine if 2 french surfers spent all summer dropping in on locals at trigg point????? that's right, it wouldn't happen all summer, they'd be punched out after the second drop in.
You blokes need to grow some balls and sort it out. Not sure if you realise, but these french blokes aren't on Seabreeze, and wouldn't care if they were.
They are getting away with it because you blokes are letting them, you blokes need to manage your local spot, there need to be some rules that are enforced in a way these fellas will understand.
For F sake, taking their photo and pin it up??? what kind of solution is that, are you serious!
o.k. in 7 years of kiting i witnessed a first today, saw a kiter get punched by a swimmer on the beach nevermind hay, kitestock next week
nevermind hay, kitestock next week
nevermind hay, kitestock next week
on one of those hot perth days with marginal winds when you look at the kiting zone and think to yourself, oh ****, how many incidents involving kiters and general beach users will we see today. Several minor incidents were observed while supping a cold frothie with two other, more experienced kiters. then, 20 metres upwind of us a fired up swimmer approached a kiter (not a local) who had just landed his kite, something had happened out on the water, heated words from the swimmer, shoulder shrugging from the kiter, then kiters mate comes in (also a kiter) more heated words, then a local kiter comes in to try and calm things down, fails, then kiters mate uses the "c" word,, he then kops a better than average right-hander on the breathing instrument .
Far better entertainment than the tv, but i fear all of the onlookers, kiters, clubbies, mums, dads and kiddies may look at it in a different light.
As for the answer, no idea, but i fear for the future of metro kiting 
Walks...pack your bags and head this way to Sunny Coast....You'll need a bigger kite though my friend!!!
Parf
Wow cool idea. Kiter mates deserves all he gets. But yeh not a great scene for families to see.
I love community justice, was the kiters mate some smart ass y gen who can say what they want at school nowadays and never cop a flogging due to the anti bullying policies etc. ??
Just asking because only last year I saved an x student at a bar, mouthing off to some old timer I know used to be in a boxing troop in his earlier days.
Boys who don't know how to be men, a generation of soft cock ****ters with a mouth to go with it.
yeah sorry eppo, the guy who got what he deserved was prob early 40's, his mate who started the whole thing was prob mid 20's.
Not sure if swimmer was to aggro but as a kiter we're bottom of the food chain so STAY CLEAR of all other beach uses, if and when we get to close, forget about ego's and chips on shoulder, defuse the situation with honest apologies
Agreed, diffuse is a good word. Man few posts about crazy metro happenings hey.
The last two years has seen a tremendous increase in population even down my neck of the woods. Included in this is kiters and beach goers. More rats in a cage, gonna be more incidents.
Two wrongs don't make aright.
if you throw the first or the second punch it is still assault.
A JEDI master once told me NEVER pick on some one you dont know.
