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where should I hold my kite on a wave ?

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Created by Main > 9 months ago, 14 Oct 2013
Main
QLD, 2327 posts
14 Oct 2013 8:08AM
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when in onshore conditions going right on my backhand. holding the kite with my left hand and LE going right. when I bottom turn and hit the lip (whether a carve or a reo) and come back down the face of the wave (straight) im heading for the kite at speed and the lies will do slack and somethimes the kite will stall. I also hold the kite quite low when Im on a wave as per a Ben wilson video tip I saw once. The kite is also sheeted right out.

question is - should i be turning the kite hard to the left when I turn off the top and then turn it back hard to the right as i bottom turn again OR should i be holding the kite much higher at say 45 degrees OR just moving the kite upwards from down low during the bottom turn OR What?

SaltySinus
VIC, 960 posts
14 Oct 2013 1:23PM
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That's a good question... and I don't know. But if you watch Kiteboarding 101 with Shane something or other, they step through it at the end of the dvd, after the credits (maybe find it on youtube?).

I think it's the subject of Kiteboarding 201... but I've not seen it.

Good luck.

Dl33ta
TAS, 461 posts
14 Oct 2013 3:05PM
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Stall as in head backwards towards the water or just out of power? I found the first one is related to the type of kite you fly, I haven't had that issue since I switched over to wave kites. The second one where you run out of board speed and have forgotten about the kite I've found just to be a timing issue, especially on smaller waves. Having the kite high sucks as it kills your turns, pulling you up when you want to be digging in the edge. I've found having the kite going in the same direction as the board works best for me. The wave kites turn fast enough to make this a natural thing.

Main
QLD, 2327 posts
14 Oct 2013 3:04PM
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Dl33ta said..

Stall as in head backwards towards the water or just out of power? I found the first one is related to the type of kite you fly, I haven't had that issue since I switched over to wave kites. The second one where you run out of board speed and have forgotten about the kite I've found just to be a timing issue, especially on smaller waves. Having the kite high sucks as it kills your turns, pulling you up when you want to be digging in the edge. I've found having the kite going in the same direction as the board works best for me. The wave kites turn fast enough to make this a natural thing.


The kite stalling as in lines go slack and kite falls out of the sky - normally backwards. it gets uncomfortable if the wind then catches the falling kite and rips you forward. its because the kite is downwind and Im charging at it faster than its moving away from me...

Dl33ta
TAS, 461 posts
14 Oct 2013 4:47PM
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With my Rebels they would always fall straight back towards the water trailing edge first whenever the wave picked me up and I started heading towards the kite, was pretty consistent behaviour so I got rid of them. The wave kite just hovers there and drifts back in the same situation. What sort of kite you using, someone may be able to offer some bridal adjustment tips?

Main
QLD, 2327 posts
14 Oct 2013 4:00PM
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Either the rebel 9 or the dice 12. It only happens when I come off the top of the wave and straight back down the face of the wave towards the kite before I bottom turn again. What its doing is stopping me from drawing out the bottom turn and making me turn sooner and sharper than I want to.

SaltySinus
VIC, 960 posts
14 Oct 2013 6:13PM
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Dl33ta said..

With my Rebels they would always fall straight back towards the water trailing edge first whenever the wave picked me up and I started heading towards the kite, was pretty consistent behaviour so I got rid of them. The wave kite just hovers there and drifts back in the same situation. What sort of kite you using, someone may be able to offer some bridal adjustment tips?


Hey Dl33ta, as a rebel and vegas owner, I'm curious what kite(s) you moved to, please? 4 lines, or 5?

Dl33ta
TAS, 461 posts
14 Oct 2013 7:11PM
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Main: I've never seen a Dice in any serious action but from all the hype surrounding that kite you would think they had the drift covered. My 9 Rebel would do exactly as you described though. Tough call to put the power stroke on when you're dropping down a sizeable wave to stop it from stalling. Maybe have to send it the other way to keep it busy?

Salty: I bought a quiver of Switch Methods 7, 9 and 11 which run a 4 line bar. For the price couldn't be happier, the sale of the 9 covered two new ones. Couple of cosmetic things with the bar that they have responded to through warranty.


SaltySinus
VIC, 960 posts
14 Oct 2013 7:19PM
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Interesting... thanks for the info and the heads up re Rebel's stalling. I've long since been on the receiving end due to minimal skills ;-)

NickT
WA, 1094 posts
15 Oct 2013 6:06AM
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I sometimes loop my kite when I head straight downwind. A bigger kite or more powered this will happen less, but you'll be more powered when riding across the wind.

Nomadhazza
24 posts
21 Oct 2013 7:11PM
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I used to have this slack line problem. Then i discovered wave kites!
I can hold my kite at 12 on land and run towards it and the kites just keeps drifting back with me!
Highly recommend!

mvdv
NSW, 74 posts
26 Oct 2013 7:27PM
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Watch this video and practice this.


You will need to set up a bit earlier on the wave as it will whip you onto it but then the kite will drift easier. The lower you do the figure 8 the better.
The Dice will drift fine if you get it up right as goes great for me. Can't confirm on the rebel as haven't used it in the waves to much.

Main
QLD, 2327 posts
28 Oct 2013 10:11PM
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OK thanks will work on this. Think I got this drifting without pulling once today. Had no idea how though...



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