no need for a chill pill. send harry potter a demo, we melburnians can ride it, and you'll either be vindicated for your claims and sell a bunch more kites, or you'll be flamed back to obscurity.
metalmongrel - you didnt say you where planning upwind but I thought if you were boosting 5ft, then you would be. My bad.
I have owned flat kites before, such as the 07 ocean rodeo one. It was heavy so its bottom end wasnt as good as the new 09/10 kites but was great for its time and the hang time was ridiculous because of the flat profile.
I have no doubts these kites will perform great in lighter winds and I say this because I have seen them several times doing better than anyone else on the water when its light.
But there is just no way I can buy that a 12m will get going in 5-7kts, considering everyone else's kite will be almost falling out of the sky.
I don't care who rides what, but this is a review and potential buyers will be reading and the keeping ground at 5-7kts is just unheard of.
Sometimes the wind is 5kts at ground level and you can barely launch the kite but 25m up the wind is blowing a good 15-20kts. I was having a kite about 4 days back and someone had a wind meter which read 10-12kts yet I was planning up wind with with ease on a 12m - so that tells me its not 10-12kts because I know I cant hall my 100kg ass upwind that easy without at least 15-16kts.
10-11 knots on VID is not 5-7knots as claimed !
Still BST.
Just send a demo kite to Melbourne.
Have a look from 2 minutes on for a true reflection of the wind. The glassy spots are just where the wind isn't close to the water. Then compare it to the flysurfer light wind videos where it's glassy but not shallow and all the water is glassy.
I need to get one of these, just went down the beach and had the 19m flysurfer out yet couldnt get moving, the closest wind meter said it was 6-8 knots so if I only had the 12m hydra i would of been right.
Hi Genetrix.
2 weeks ago you were going to send a demo kite to the Potter,
so...did you?
. P.S. have another look at the year of the hydra metalmongrel used.
Huh........ at no stage have you guys agreed to send over the kite etc.........
agree to do so..... and I will PM you my details as well as a copy of drivers licence passport credit card etc..........
NO EXCUSES
General Marketing 101
If a prospective customer expresses interest in your product, take action to give them a positive experience of it. Do not publicly post photos that could be perceived as offensive to the prospective customer.
Kite-specific Marketing 101
Other companies post kites for people to try. There are precedents, so catch up with your competitors.
Victorian Inside Scoop 101
Harry Potter is one of the most fluid, energetic and fun kiters to watch in Melbourne. If I was a kite company, I'd want him happily riding my kites for all to see.
If the kites are as good as you say, you would have some pretty good publicity getting some of the more visible and vocal Melbourne kiters testing them.
I can't believe you would not make the most of the opportunity to turn this into a positive outcome.
As a micro-business owner, I know that I have to treat every hint of interest in my business seriously and follow up any inquiry that may generate new customers.
Still, business philosophies aside, if there's an opportunity to try one of the kites in Melbourne I'm up for it. PM me or post a demo session on the forum.
H & G, you guys should take a customer service lesson from Alex at Stonker, Torquay, he regularly sends new demo kites australia wide and always lets the local guys or anyone else who asks, borrow kites and boards to test.
Why piss potential customers off just for challenging your claims, prove you're right by actions not insults.
Potter has offered you all the id u need and put his own credibility on the line.
Send a couple down via Stonker, Im sure he'd be happy to assist.
************* update ********************
It has now been two weeks since I PM'ed all my details to Genetrix and requested that he send me his email address so that I could scan and send him copies of all the required documentation.........
Suprise suprise ......... no further response. 
Although I did receive several other Pm's from people who have had dealings with them ( not one was favourable ).
I think we can safely say that their claims are total Bull$h1t and they are just pimping a product that they are stuck with and are unable to sell...... I have never seen one.
If i do hear anything back I will let you guys know what the result is and if we can still get them to send over one we can organise a group demo ( at Altona or similar ) so we can all establish for ourselves what these kites can do.
Please check the last results in GPS speed
4 Genetrix on the Top ranking
www.gps-kitesurfing.com
Please read the PM below that was sent to Harry Potter in response to his last post:
"The hydra is a great kite with a big wind range and very stable , we do want people to use them to see for them selves. The hydra is not dedicated to freestyle , its a speed kite which is why genetrix have the origin for quick turning and freestyle .At no point have I said the hydra could go in under 8 knots with me behind it, I have seen some younger lads riding them in very light winds before but it may have been around the 7 to 8 knot mark . If you like big air and hang time this kite can deliver.
like I said on my last post we will try and get down your way first to talk to you guys face to face and demo the kites.
James hasnt got any 2010 hydra kites for demo as I didnt intend bringing any over for stock, i have one 12m for myself and a 7m on the way for my trip to luderitz , I have a old 2007 12m which we sent to metalmongrel to try but also that is my own kite which my wife uses"
James would be happy to respond to any queries regarding these kites, as both he and I have been doing despite comments to the contrary.
