Yeh try the rebel then you can generate a fantastic review....no wait on let me help you, you will either write
It is a good kite and I like it
Or
It is not a good kite and I don't like it.
Let me save you the trouble. 
The new noise kite.... its a refinement on the old noise kite, just like any other model of kite like the fuel, rebel, torch etc. It changes canopy shape slightly and changes bridal positions, or line setups (C-kites) based on team rider feedback.
Wave riding is something quite new. 2002 Lou was showing wakestyle beyond belief on a 2 line kite, and Mark shinn was wave riding, not at the hightest level, Mutu was.... High depower kites that dont pull you off your board when arcing them across the wind window were the future. Riding a wave with a kite is like playing drums, It you cant use the snare, kick drum and the high hat and get it right its not the kits fault.
Wave riding in anything besides cross, cross/offshore aint easy and requires the rider to understand the biggest variable.... THE WAVE. "Only a surfer would know" a marketing quote.
To say a kite is crap s saying you are crap, most kites can drift without hindenburging, yet specific wave kites drift better than others. The issue is in high/low aspect and projected area of a specific brand, the wind it is flown in going downwind, in low wind a kite with high projected area will not stall, yet the same shape on a smaller kite, with more wind will rip you off your board given the same input.
to truly surf on a wave you need 2 techniques.... 1) use the kite to get around sections... whip it in low wind. 2) actually learn how to surf and drif the kite and if it falls in the water, blame yourself, not the board or the kite
Eppo, honestly you are a PIMP, yet your brother rides BEST???? you have so much to say after kitesurfing for "25 years". why are you not on the PKRA or the KPT? You test f all yet know everything..... try testing the ego (fluid)
Never said I know everything Dave. I was asking the guy for an informed opinion just like puppet on a string was. Not sure what your beef is with me, nor why you are being so aggressive. Your last post called me an elitist cocksucker. Where the hell did you get that from.
Yet you seem to think it is alright with your little lessons like above.
When we met I assumed you were a decent bloke with a good sense of humor and I am still trying to stay that way. But you are making it really hard.
Again not sure why you choose to adopt such an aggressive tone, infact I am quite perplexed.
Also what the hell have I been pimping on this thread. I actually want to hear a decent review as a friend has asked me about them to start kitesurfing with. I haven't said a bad thing about them.
Mate you need a reality check buddy, your attitude towards me has very little basis. Nor the verbal attacks are warranted.
What exactly am I pimping, what is gods name has gotten into you?.
Why the fluid? Thought you were onto best ts. Love to try the Peter Lynn's.
An "elitist cocksucker" is a dog..... I can t do it and Ive tried, Im not that flexible, are you Branding youself as eletistly flexible
^^^^^^ So whats about the deflate part on any kite pump???? It only adds to connfusion. has anyone purposely put it on deflate and deflated their kite, what a waste to an extra bit of plastic.
, Im not that flexible, are you Branding youself as eletistly flexible
GREAT WORK SEABREEZE--- logging onto Seabreeze these days is what I imagine a mothers group chat page to sound like,, full of awesome feed back and information that all can use !!!!,this thread got side tracked after the 2nd post- awesome work girls !
Hmmm..
Toppleover and Trotam both from Buderim Qld.. Now where does Ben and his loyal band of payrolled positive vibe spreaders run from again?
If you are on the payroll guys (and you may well not be) or getting free/discount stuff from the company in question - put it out there and be honest. Others here on SB do.
The opinions that don't go in BWS favour are (usually) from punters on no-one's payolla but sooo many pro BWS posted are by/about/asking rhetorical Qs from fellow BWS employees.
Good way to pizz ya cred away.
You can fool some people some times..
Funky before you go making accusations like that I think you should do a bit more research.
I know Toppleover is a Reo rider and before that Fuses and if I were him I'd be pissed with your post..
u do dribble on non stop about your rebels and contribute pretty much nonsense here on SB Eppo..
An aquaintance told me that your part of a semi scamming multi level marketing scheme?
is this untrue?
And Eppo calls me a "time waster" for referring him to his own post referring to biased opinions, it appears that this is eppo's little "blow me " session and it would be remiss of me not to draw some conclusion to the previous (quote) elitist cocksucker comment ha fkn ha
Why do you think I cut my salary by 2 3rds from extractive metallurgy?. Oh sorry it was because of the love of teenage kids and I thought I could make a difference. Lol.
You can fool some people some times..
LOL, fair nuff - my error.
There has been quite a record of blokes from Qld (and Perf) firing off rhetrical questions to each other and talking up BWS but somehow forgetting to mention they get paid/sposored to comment on BWS (and also forgetting they were all together at the team cam0p the week before trying out the gear tthey are asking each other questions about ). Forgetful bunch it seems.
Hard to know what is genuine when so many threads and contributers have been full of pimp juice in the past.
So, let me get this right. If you like a BWS kite you can just say the kite was FULLY SICK!!!! and that's cool, but if you dare to say you don't like it you have to write a 10 page essay on the technical reasons of your experience with said kite, only to be shot down in flames by all the BWS retailers and mates rates crew because you are clearly wrong, what a croc of sh1t. I really don't get all the protection for the brand, yes Ben is a cool Australian and a sick wave kiter, but his kites are still made by small underpaid Asian workers......
few pics of the new kites for those interested, they look sweet and the built quality is great- now for some wind! different colour graphics for each size.
