95% of my time is spent on my sector and when i want to have a blat around the twinnie
so thats why i /jason suggested 11 /15m in the edge for more racing purposes and 8m cat for high wind days .
100kg / sector
Personally I find the cat a bit disappointing , if your a bigger bloke and like to really lean into your ride it is no where near as good as the edges, which simply just sit there allowing you to lock into your stance, the cats may allow this if your riding less aggressive or a lightweight but i have found they give in even in very solid winds.
Yep...that makes sense now. With a sector even at 100kg, wouldnt need a 17m really unless you want to get out in stupidly low winds, 11m a decent gap as those sectors can actually hold down a fair degree of wind (owned one for a while - V3), and yep on a TT in crazy winds 8M cat awesome....
at 100kg you could take that 11m on ya TT pretty high man...would be sweet.
yep you got it hey...anyhow I doubt jasons advice all the time, then I come back a couple months with my tail between my legs asking for the same thing he suggested a while back.
I wish sometimes he was more forceful...his kind of ...maybe this, maybe that! LOL
Yeh I thought that about the cats until I got on the 14m in stupidly light winds and watched jason scream upwind on nothing on a skim board...we both agreed it had as much or more power than the C4...until you unhook then the C4 kills it. I'm talking about 2013. The cat in high winds would be awesome and more controllable than a small edge...but when I do the dash up to dongara might ask nicely to have a go on cauncies 7m..plus he'll probbaly be on his 11m when I'm thinking 7, cause he's a mid westerner animal!
8m cat gives me big grins (82 pies). i have done the most insane and completely controlled boosts in 35 knots. heaps of fun. stupid gusts. who cares.
that is what the cat is for stupid conditions. sub 30 is ok but not mind blowing. wave riding is good tho. so its a nice boost and wave ride option 25-30.
Though i desparately want to hook into a 7m edge in 35-40 knots and see what sort of insane world record breaking top speed I could do on the landboard.
Mick, Steve and Eppo,
Thanks for all your input. I got out today to try the set-up and tuning you suggested. I spent three hours in 24 kt average wind on my 9 m 2013 Edge.
Altona, Apex Park end.
The kite has not had a lot of use. I'm only a lightweight 70 kg.
I checked the line lengths (ok as expected) and left them standard on the 2nd knot under the floats. I set to the lower bar pressure / minus setting on the wingtip tags.
From my observation it didn't seem to me that the steering lines needed any shortening so I didn't try it.
The amount of bar pressure reduction was undetectable and the looping didn't seem any different. If there is a difference it's to subtle for me.
Great session, fantastic kite but no different to standard settings.
24 knots for a 70kg guy you'd be pretty lit. Try it again in lighter winds, you'll definitely notice it loops and turns quicker. In those winds at your weight the kite would be developing a fair amount of apparent wind that would somewhat hide the change. Get it out in lighter winds then you'll also notice it in those kinds of wind.
Q lines
You can buy them from Kite power.
They make a very big difference to the feel of the kite, regardless of rider weight. Much more direct feel on the kite even for a light weight. But if you a bit heavier then they dont stretch like standard lines and require adjusting or tuning.
The kite turns faster and responds quicker. The difference is more noticable as you go up in size of kite.
You have to cut to length and tie yourself pm me if you want more info got to tie 2 knots on each end, bit of a job but not that hard. easy to make extensions aswell so you can easily set up fot different line lengths. Big kites on short lines in big winds......
....the tricky bit is getting the safety to operate as normal...( mine doesn"t but i perfer it that way. (Normally you would have a stopper ball about 1 leading edge length up one line to stop the bar going all the way to the kite.... mine only goes about 1m)) However i do have a standard set of lines for other people to try my gear on.
they are noisy ...they whistle, but its kinda like a rev counter when they start to whistle.... its boost time.
Hope this helps.
so going to bite the bullet and get the 8cat , 11 and 15 edge end of the month .
11 and 15 with race bar and 25m lines
yer sorry cat i am getting a seperate bar , race bar for the 11 and 15 and sector . If i am on the cat then i'll be on the tt not sector .
ozone have released a 10m and a 19m edge .... now available in Australia
10m will be sick......cant wait to fly one of those in a decent wind .....woohoo
19m has been testing in 5knots with a race board......
good question
my current set is 3 seasons old........
its worth undoing the knots and redoing them each season .
i thought when you bought kites there was supposed to be ****all wind. woohoo time to crack out the 11
Definitely go the q power - make sure it is the pro edition which is thinner and less noisy/tangles etc. I have two bars and same sets for the past 5 years now - absolutely awesome. Any other kite lines feel like rubber bands.
Riding the 11/13/17 edges myself and swapping out the 11 for the 10 next week.
Also selling the 17 as I have a light wind board now as well.
Also run 55cm bars on all kites and 24m line sets.
I also use my own custom depower setup with a cobra cleat to give full range of the kite between oversheeted and and can't turn it scenario. No need to worry about any knots or tuning etc - one knot any conditions.
Agree the kites are fantastic.
Prices are shocking and people are just taking advantage imo.
Kurtz let us know how the 10 goes compared to the 11 please.
Also any chance you could post a picture of your custom depower setup.
Cheers
Eppo