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Zeeko Notus XLW 21m Review

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Created by bjornbswe > 9 months ago, 7 Aug 2013
bjornbswe
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7 Aug 2013 3:37PM
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Conditions: Steady 7-10kts gusts to 12, lulls to 5 (estimations, not intentionally into BS but you know how hard these estimations are). Wind meter at the local wind surf club said 10kts average, 5m above sea level, at session start which means 1-2kts more at kite height!?

Rider experience: 5years (Started off with cab contra III 14 and 17m, had the Zephyr2010 and Turbine2011, currently on core xr2 19m, current quiver xr2 19 and xr2 10)
Rider weight: 87kg
Expectations: No Miracles
Board: Surfboard(modified SS Arcane with 4x16cm fins) and Skimboard(strapped Shinn Waterbird)

Performance: 9/10
Quality: 10/10
Satisfaction: 9/10

Disclaimer: No affiliation whatsoever, i pay for my gear. I will refer to the core xr2 19m as 'the core'

I stumbled on a post here some 4 months ago or so about 'the biggest tube kite on the market' and being keen on getting out on the water whenever possible i decided to go for this big bad boy.

The first thing you notice when unfolding the kite is the lack of dacron reinforcements on the wingtip canopy which the core(as every other kite i've had) has. Second is the absence of one-pump, which adds a few minutes of inflation time. There are small velcro pockets at the wingtips where you can put the bridle lines, or part of them, which facilitates rigging. The 10/10 for quality is because i feel the quality is Right for this kind of kite, it is about 1kg lighter than the core(did not weigh them myself, feels like it's right) and still feels solid.

The Ultimate Bar has a nice grip and is simple and uncluttered, the only thing to have in mind is that if your arms are of average or short length, place the depower/stopper about 1/3 towards the bar at rigging. I immediately set the lines up to 32m with the 'Rallonges' provided. The ERA line came with extension lines as well but it was as long as the other lines so i was not able to fit that. I am thinking of a solution with two lines, one on each side so I can choose which direction i want to launch in.

The kite launced beautifully. In the air the kite is VERY stable. In the same winds that made the core fall out of the sky eventually, i had no problems keeping this one in the air. The kite stalled a bit a few times, i just sheeted out and it came back nicely. The size suggests it is a slow turner and it is, it requires full input at its low end. I am convinced though, that with the shortest line length of 20m for higher winds(with gusts at 12kts I was fully sheeted out, no depower) this becomes a different story. It reacts a bit differently to input: it moves when input is applied and immediately stops when you hold the bar straight so it's like you can alter the kite's position in 'precision steps'. Very stable indeed

I started off on a surfboard with some 10kts wind with gusts to 12kts. Totally effortless, no sining needed, sheet and go, immediate upwind. The kite responds fine to input even if a bit slow, like the cab contra III 17m. Upwind ability felt about the same as for the core, not much worse nor better. Bar preassure was just fine, firm without being tiring. Oh, almost forgot: once i fell from the board in a gybe and to avoid a crash i had to downloop it. So Yes, it loops with enoug input provided, not bad for a 21m

I didn't think of trying a water relaunch so maybe i'll get back on that also i did not test jumping.



Kite and Boards


The SS Arcane is not the ultimate LW machine but i don't have depht for race fins or hydrofoils where i ride most of the time.

The wind dropped to 6-8kts and i could just hold the line with the surfboard. I decided to try the skimboard. In the 8kts 'gusts' i was able to hold the line, planing, but in the lulls i sank through.

[ UPDATE: After three days with 0-5kts wind the wind finally returned today to a steady 12kts with gusts to 18kts according to meter at the local surf club. So i took my regular twin tip for a spin, a Spleene RIP HT 37(137x44) -09. I started off on 2/3 depower and standard line length(made the kite more responsive!) which i kept the whole session. I did short runs, like 200-300m, to test the jumping ability.

The key to jumping is timing and this is a very forgiving kite! the few times at the start when i completely mistimed and ended up with the kite far behind me, lines totally slack, it just drifted to stretch, i could give input and was going again. The core would at some of these occations have punished me with some hindenburging, rolling over and end of session.

So big for jumping! Probably did my highest jump ever today, but that was more luck, it will take some time getting the timing right. Upwind is easy though it requires heavy edging. ]

Summary: Don't be put off by the number on the kite, it is a nice kite! It gets me going 1+ knot earlier than the core with the surf board, it stays in the air like the Turbine and with better bottom end. For winds between 7 and 12kts this is a session saver for me. For winds between 11 and 16kts the core will still be my goto kite.

After the second session i realized that the standard line length improves the top end and responsiveness. Gusts at 18kts were manageable, i would say my limit is 20kts(survival).

Regards
/bjorn (from Sweden)

radman4
678 posts
7 Aug 2013 4:15PM
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Very curious as to how much you weigh.

bjornbswe
2 posts
7 Aug 2013 6:31PM
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Hi Radman!

I weigh 87-88kg non-outfitted. The UDS bar, which i believe is a race bar has a very long throw. so depending on your arms length you get a very large depower range. At 18kts i was on full depower, fully sheeted out and could still just edge enough for going where i wanted although i must admit it started to get scary!!! With the 8m extension lines the top end drops, can't say by how much, but probably 2-3kts since the kite will jolt you more in the gusts with the extensions. Haven't been out in more than 12kts with the extensions though.

/bjorn

BendigoPete
VIC, 13 posts
25 Aug 2013 12:35AM
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Hi, just registered with Seabreeze and this is my first post. It's great to see a post on a Zeeko kite - most kiters and shop assistants I've come across haven't heard of them.
Zeeko distributor used to live in Bendigo so I fly a full quiver of Zeeko kites - support the local guy (FYI. ignor the prices on the Zeeko web site in Euros, your 12m kite costs about AU$1,400). I got my lessons from him and am in my second season - why did I start this sport during winter? As you can imagine, we cop lighter gusty winds inland on the lakes in Central Vic. I own a 9, 10 and 12m Krush (2013) and a 17m light wind Notus (current model). To add to your review bjornbswe - I dont use the Easy Relaunch Assistant (ERA) line on any of my kites... I find the relaunch is as good as an Argo or Rebel and I don't like the slight drag that the 5th line produces (nor the weed collection ). So relaunch on this kite is great ...and I deep water relaunch almost all the time. I did a fair bit of homework on light wind kites before purchasing the Zeeko... I knew it wouldn't turn as quickly as some other light wind kites, but I agree, I seem to get 1-2 knots more than my buddies on their light wind gear, which is what I wanted. I see the R and D that kite companies are throwing at light wind gear this year (and last year) and am encouraged, in fact I have some light wind demos to play with this week to see how they stack up. Gusts on this kite can be punchy, but the bar throw is what you want it to be and I have long arms so it works well enough - the Zeeko bar is quite unique with adjustable throw on the fly - not too impressed with the latest freestyle bar Zeeko have though - just my opinion. All up its a good light wind kite - looking forward to seeing how it stacks up with the likes of the Epic Infinity 4G, LF NRG 2014 and Griffin TRX and Argo! P.S. I am 85 - 90kgs and ride a Nobile 140x46 board in light winds - Zeeko Booth in normal conditions. Hard to measure light winds inland due to the gusts, but I can get out in the 10 knot region - no white caps. I find the kite sensative on the bar - i.e. you can't just pull the bar in, point and shoot, the kites' wind range is excellent and I think this results in more of a "let it breath" low end and then sheet in as you build speed approach. Yup, hangin around a lot when you jump in 12-15 knots! Have had the kite in gusty 20 knots... it's more like paragliding - again due the the bar setup I was able to hang on ok - I have measured 15cms more throw and depower ability than a North bar. Having said that, with the very last bit of depower on the Zeeko bar you have the kite flagging - gives me that bit more confidence with a big kite. Yes the kite will loop, but, it's a big kite so don't expect it to turn like a 12.

junglist
VIC, 701 posts
27 Aug 2013 3:00PM
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BendigoPete said..
Hi, just registered with Seabreeze .


Hey Pete, good to see you have finally made it to the 'Breeze

Had some decent sessions at Richards lately. Give us a call next time you are down.

BendigoPete
VIC, 13 posts
29 Sep 2013 11:34PM
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Sounds good - looking forward to a great season!

RAL INN
SA, 2890 posts
10 Oct 2013 8:15PM
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Hi guys from my new home, 25min drive from Shallow Inlet
I have the 2014 info for Zeeko for those that want it. So pm me for it.



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