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Lorne kiting

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Created by titalayt > 9 months ago, 27 Oct 2010
titalayt
2 posts
27 Oct 2010 9:01PM
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Coming down from Qld next week. What is kiting like around Lorne? I am a relative newbie. Is ther anywhere to hire some gear or should I bring my own. Appreciate some advice from locals. If it isn't worth it won't bother. If it is, which wind direction etc.

harry potter
VIC, 2777 posts
28 Oct 2010 11:44AM
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SSW - is probably the best direction, but most of that coast works in E - SW -

Most common wind direction is S -SW and most likely for next week.

It will mainly be surf riding if you are after some flat water try Point Roadnight ( Anglesea ) Really needs to be southerly though........ south west can work but launching and landing can be tricky.....

IT is a bit of a trade off on this coast as the predominant winds are SW and because the hills come all the way to the sea this can cause big wind shadows .....in which case you need to move away from the protected water below the cliffs to the more open beaches ie Fairhaven, 13th etc..... if the wind is more southerly thhere are more options.

titalayt
2 posts
28 Oct 2010 6:36PM
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Thanks Harry. Will have a think about it

JW
VIC, 46 posts
29 Oct 2010 7:17PM
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It's great kiting behind the pier at Lorne but a sketchy long swim if something goes wrong... Pt Danger at Torquay is about 40 mins from Lorne and is an awesome spot to hit.

tenno
QLD, 51 posts
30 Oct 2010 12:55PM
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Apollo Bay, takes most directions, local riders, school, its an awesome spot. Best direction e ne along the wall, brings good swell

harry potter
VIC, 2777 posts
3 Nov 2010 4:49PM
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tenno said...

Apollo Bay, takes most directions, local riders, school, its an awesome spot. Best direction e ne along the wall, brings good swell


Not sure I agree with you there Apollo Bay does not work in a westerly, SW is sketchy , S, SE are good easterly is average and anything with North in it is offshore.... And I'm not sure what you mean by E -NE bringing good swell as we don't get easterly or northerly swells for obvious reasons. Unless you are refering to kiting waves in cross off conditions where a E -NE wind will hold up the faces and open the rights, but the swell would be SW, S or sometimes SE

tenno
QLD, 51 posts
3 Nov 2010 6:09PM
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well you must not have spent much time down there otherwise you would know SW is very good at the falls. The east north-east always blows stronger on apollo bay side of cape pattern and riding along the wall which is a popular surf spot brings good swell. I have also had some really good kites in a north and north -west on the back beach next to the reef. Back in your box!

harry potter
VIC, 2777 posts
4 Nov 2010 11:16AM
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I agree a South Westerly is kiteable at Marengo ( at the end closest to apollo bay jetty ) West to North West is not, nor is North, or North east

East - North east does not bring swell !!! But gust $hitty wind the more north the worse it is, the more east the better it gets

If by the " back beach " you mean Johanna...... it is hardly Apollo Bay ..Joey can work in a west - south west but not a Northerly and is about 40 min from Apollo Bay.....

Back in your Box



tenno
QLD, 51 posts
4 Nov 2010 7:50PM
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haha, i was going to ask what experience you have had in the area Harry and if all you were doing was looking off maps. Im not going to argue the point any more, i often kite there and it works. come down for the weekend its gonna blow a rippin east-north east. Its awesome. Ill even take some photos of 10+ kites out.

tenno
QLD, 51 posts
4 Nov 2010 7:59PM
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Both pics in a north east 20knots not gusty!

pinball
VIC, 8 posts
4 Nov 2010 9:14PM
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Hey,

I used to live in Apollo Bay, I still go down there any weekend there is a strong SW, N, NE and Easterly. Back beach is good in North East, Falls is good in SW (only locals know about this one).

I now currently kite in St Kilda, and Apollo Bay seems to have much cleaner air, and the waves are all-time.

so id have to say tenno can come out of his box and Mr. Potter can hop back in.

ps.. potter you cant look at google earth and make an assumption, locals always know best

oldcrow
VIC, 4 posts
4 Nov 2010 9:29PM
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Well amazing how many people kite in Apollo Bay, specially the ones I never see! We have been kiting here ever since it was invented, and we would not have bothered if it was no good. We don't kite every day like a on the bay, but several days a week for sure. On and off there is about a dozen kiters here and we kite in southerly, south westerly, south easterly, east, north east and sometimes northwest. The back beach is not Johanna but is at Marengo it takes south and southeast and east, also northwest. I don't mind if you want to knock it, it leaves more for us.

harry potter
VIC, 2777 posts
5 Nov 2010 12:54PM
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Ok..... thankyou for all your comments and advice....... I have spent my life Surfing and the last 5 years kiting on this coast with some of my best sessions being at Boneyards and Castle Cove ( I am sure some of you guys would recognise either myself or my vehicle ) I was not as someone suggested just going off maps ....I was simply using the maps to demonstrate the wind angles you guys are claiming...... you guys made the assumption I was going off maps only

If you refer to my original post I agree Apollo BAy is kiteable in a SW - S - SE - E I do not agree that it is kiteable in a W NW or N even NE is dubious as it is gusty and $hitty

OLDCROW : please explain to me how MArengo works on a North West ( If you are kiting waves in cross off conditions I agree with you ) ? if not ...not

PINBALL : please explain how Marengo works on a Northerly.?

TENNO : those photos are clearly not NE ! ( Photo 1 you are clearly headed towards the camera, edging .......NE is almost directly behind you ( not behind the photo but behind your angle ).

( photo 2 : looks more like a E -SE ans is probably the same day )

Please also explain how a E - NE brings "good swell"
( Quote Tenno : Best direction e ne along the wall, brings good swell )


The Falls pffft ....is not a secret spot but is well known as it is the first to get the cleaner wind with a bit more fetch

I am seriously doubting these claims of you guys " being local " or is this just one person hmmmm

pinball
VIC, 8 posts
5 Nov 2010 11:08PM
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you are a tosser potter,

there is nothing more that I hate than those losers that come down the coast for a weekend and think they lived here all thier lives.
if we are talking about kite surfing I dont know why you even mention the yard and castels, they are surf spots.. notorious ones.. as in join the other 3 million people a year that surf them.
and im still not even convinced you'd know what falls is, even though its not a secret you still dont know what your talking about and its evident.



if you have ever spent any time down the bay, you would realise that it wraps around at the harbour.
I have been kiting all day today in an east, i will kite this weekend also in NE.. if your so sure how come we kite in all these directions at every possible chance and have never seen anyone else trying?

because your full of it, and a waiste of my time, stay behind your screen and find someone else to annoy..

in ya box

pinball

harry potter
VIC, 2777 posts
6 Nov 2010 11:00AM
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Pinball I use to live in anglesea !

I never said easterly was not rideable and I agree NE can be ridden but gusty

you still have not told me where you can ride in a N or NW as per my original question

harry potter
VIC, 2777 posts
6 Nov 2010 11:16AM
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pinball said...




if we are talking about kite surfing I dont know why you even mention the yard and castels, they are surf spots.. notorious ones.. as in join the other 3 million people a year that surf



pffffft ...... you must be thinking about somewhere else never been more than 3 people out at either spot 90% of the time no one is there. And I mentioned these places as evidence I Was not going off maps ffs.. Re read the posts answer my questions about your claims of N and NW wind directions .....

Also increase the scale on your " provided map " so people can see just where that north easterly is coming from !!! and I'm happy fir people to make up their own minds .

tenno
QLD, 51 posts
6 Nov 2010 7:43PM
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Harry Harry, your a time waster. NE Today, out most of the day. 800+ posts maybe you should less cyber chit chat and more time on the water hahaha loooooooooooooser!

oldcrow
VIC, 4 posts
7 Nov 2010 12:59PM
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Let's keep it in perspective, people will always try to make the best of their own kiting area, and find new ways to use different places and wind directions to boost their kiting time. Of course not all of these directions give us perfect directional surfing conditions with our kites but certainly riding and boosting conditions.
these guys are getting hot under the collar because they are actually kiting in all those wind directions, I see it almost every day . It makes very little sense to say that they can't when they're doing it.
For the last two days they, we, have been ripping up our area in a predominantly northeasterly direction mainly in a place called Skenes creek for about 10 hours all up, you are going to tell us that could not be done.
The local surfers and spectators probably thought it could not be done but enjoyed the spectacle. This is my last posting on the subject there is no reason having to justify how and where you ride, we just do it. Why don't you take the boys up and actually come for a ride. I agree 800 Odd postings on one forum alone don't add up to a lot of time for kiting. Get out there and do it.

Albos
VIC, 162 posts
7 Nov 2010 7:55PM
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In Potters defence he has been a member since 2006 so thats about 200 post a year which isnt massive.

I wish i kitesurfed when i was living in apollo bay... the wind always killed my surf session, now i love the wind

sleek1
VIC, 672 posts
7 Nov 2010 9:39PM
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tenno said...





Both pics in a north east 20knots not gusty!



that looks sweet.get ready for the crowds.

Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
8 Nov 2010 11:11AM
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Albos said...

In Potters defence he has been a member since 2006 so thats about 200 post a year which isnt massive.

I wish i kitesurfed when i was living in apollo bay... the wind always killed my surf session, now i love the wind


My experience with apollo has been the opposite. My timing has always been terrible so never any wind.

BTW, the one thing people here may be forgetting is that wind on the charts isn't necessary the same as wind on land. As an example, in my general experience of Brighton, technically according to the map, a N is perfect cross shore, but if you kite at Brighton, you'll find the wind wraps differently around the coast and it actually ends up being slightly offshore and bloody gusty. Apollo bay may be the same in a NE. According to the charts, the wind is offshore and not kiteable but because of the mountain range behind it, chances are the wind actually funnels down the mountain range making it more easterly and less offshore so if you measure the wind direction on the beach, you may find its not quite NE, and maybe a ENE or similar.

P.S. you're making the assumption that Harry Potter has a regular job and not leaving the option that he may have his own company and therefore be able to kite and post online whenever he wants.

sleek1
VIC, 672 posts
8 Nov 2010 2:47PM
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i think it is a valid point that maybe some people do spend a bit to much time on the internet. The other guys do seem to me to be locals. If i had twice the posts that i have, i doubt that i would have as much kiting as i would want.

I have found its a good idea to be friendly with the locals.Spec in the country as a lot of hospitality is offered and its good to find out directions for good kite spots.

Hope to have a kite at Apollo one day it looks good.

Big eeeZeee
NSW, 1100 posts
8 Nov 2010 11:46PM
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get out a compass, a flag, a video recorder and record yourself kiting. That'll settle that... Seems quite petty really. Enjoy the stoke and get out and kite. peace

tenno
QLD, 51 posts
9 Nov 2010 3:57PM
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Its not worth the hassle mate, be good to catch a few crew passing through or dropping down over summer. Bass straight forecast is our most accurate and you will find at times when its not blowin in melb on an east or north east it is in Apollo. Not sure what it is but it seems to nearly always come in strong.
Peace out!

harry potter
VIC, 2777 posts
10 Nov 2010 8:54PM
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tenno said...

Harry Harry, your a time waster. NE Today, out most of the day. 800+ posts maybe you should less cyber chit chat and more time on the water hahaha loooooooooooooser!


Average direction for Saturday 6th November Cape Otway ENE
9am - ENE. 3pm - ENE

Average direction for Saturday 6th November Aireys Inlet E
9am - ENE. 3pm - E

Now neither are Apollo bay ... Otway is closest but it was not a NE. And as I said earlier more east the better the more north more gusty

harry potter
VIC, 2777 posts
10 Nov 2010 9:02PM
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tenno said...

I have also had some really good kites in a north and north -west on the back beach next to the reef. Back in your box!


........ And I'm still waiting for a full explanation of these N and NW kiting sessions you are having
and the photo which you claim is NE but is clearly not .... I'm often down there surfing in a N or NW ( because it's offshore ) so I will keep a look out for you ripping it up in these winds. Lol

sleek1
VIC, 672 posts
10 Nov 2010 10:58PM
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yawn

pinball
VIC, 8 posts
10 Nov 2010 11:00PM
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once again harry too much time behind the PC pal, the wind on the beach isnt always the same as the wind around the coast at a beacon surrounded by mountains..

this will be my last post on this, i believe you have been more than put in your box..

later time waister

pinball



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