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Scored a downwinder from Hampton to Port Melbourne

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Created by Peterc150 > 9 months ago, 1 Jan 2012
Peterc150
VIC, 710 posts
1 Jan 2012 10:15AM
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Got lucky and scored a nice downwinder from Hampton to Port Melbourne at last. The water is definitely better at Hampton and Brighton compared to the top of the bay.

www.peterskiteboarding.com/2011/12/downwinder-from-hampton-to-port.html







kanister
VIC, 40 posts
1 Jan 2012 1:04PM
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Wow. That's amazing. Have to try it one day!

sleek1
VIC, 672 posts
1 Jan 2012 1:47PM
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kanister said...

Wow. That's amazing. Have to try it one day!


Are you going to dress up like robocop aswell?

Gorgo
VIC, 4982 posts
1 Jan 2012 4:35PM
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Why didn't you turn around and ride back again?

Peterc150
VIC, 710 posts
1 Jan 2012 11:42PM
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Why didn't you turn around and ride back again?


The wind dropped out at St Kilda, so going back was out of the question and around 20km is a long way to go upwind.

I find downwinders great fun as I can relax, go for a tour and not worry about holding ground and going upwind. Its a bit like ski touring compared to downhill skiing.

Peterc150
VIC, 710 posts
2 Jan 2012 8:03AM
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Here's the video:

sleek1
VIC, 672 posts
2 Jan 2012 9:23PM
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Peterc150 said...

Why didn't you turn around and ride back again?


The wind dropped out at St Kilda, so going back was out of the question and around 20km is a long way to go upwind.

I find downwinders great fun as I can relax, go for a tour and not worry about holding ground and going upwind. Its a bit like ski touring compared to downhill skiing.



I agree, downwinders are great! ski touring=staying upwind,downhill=downwinder.

kanister
VIC, 40 posts
3 Jan 2012 12:21AM
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Nice vid mate!

Gorgo
VIC, 4982 posts
3 Jan 2012 11:35AM
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If you're into ski touring then get into upwinders. It's the equivalent of starting off at the base station, shuffling to the summit, playing around on the summit, then taking the long down trail back.

On a TT you can make easily 6kph distance going upwind. Get the right surfboard or raceboard and you can more than double that pace. Saves all the dicking around with car shuffles or public transport.

sleek1
VIC, 672 posts
3 Jan 2012 10:40PM
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Some people just dont get it when it comes to downwinders.

Gorgo
VIC, 4982 posts
4 Jan 2012 6:06PM
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The second half of an upwinder is a downwinder. I get to do a downwinder on almost every session I do.

Try it. The more you ride upwind the better you get at it and the faster you can ride. Once it's easy and fun to blast upwind you can have a downwind session any time you want.

sleek1
VIC, 672 posts
4 Jan 2012 6:54PM
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congratulations

campatrol
VIC, 76 posts
5 Jan 2012 9:53AM
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cool vid mate thanks for sharing.
looks like fun.
You could try Rye to your neck of the woods st kilda??
on a southerly.
not sure how long that one would take

Is there such a thing as kite touring? like they do on jetskis and sail boats?
eg
go from one place to another have lunch and a drink and head back??
cheers cam

Peterc150
VIC, 710 posts
6 Jan 2012 1:47PM
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You could try Rye to your neck of the woods st kilda??
on a southerly. not sure how long that one would take

Is there such a thing as kite touring? like they do on jetskis and sail boats?
eg go from one place to another have lunch and a drink and head back??
cheers cam and


Cam, Rye to St Kilda (or Brighton) is possible, but getting launched in a southerly from Rye would be difficult due to the wind shadow.

Going the other way, launching at Brighton in a northerly would be pretty easy.

The distance is around 57km.

Here is a map for a possible route:



And a link to the map: www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=14aeQVcYFkzehSc3uSX3HraGAfKs&msa=0&iwloc=0004b57f0cf1f6f9637f6

I am not sure whether anyone has done this yet. I think Natalie Clarke did a downwinder similar to this when she was training for the Bass Straight crossing.

Some factors to consider re safety:

* Use a board with flotation (race board or surfboard)
* Carry an EPIRB (or Spot) + waterproof mobile
* Buoyancy vest & wetsuit - in case the wind drops
* Staying close to shore where possible
* Want a good wind forecast for the duration - around 2.5 hours I think
* Let someone know before you go!

Some sort of boat backup would be nice too. Planning in progress . . .

kanister
VIC, 40 posts
7 Jan 2012 1:09PM
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Wow this sounds great! I would love to do it one day as well ...

campatrol
VIC, 76 posts
9 Jan 2012 11:15AM
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Ahh right'o
thats a fair haul.
Looks like it would be a good trip if a few did it

What do you mean by wind shadow??

Gorgo
VIC, 4982 posts
9 Jan 2012 2:29PM
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Where the wind is offshore and trees/hills/buildings block the wind from the surface of the water making conditions ultra-gusty and launching difficult/impossible.

Some guys did a downwinder from Rosebud a few years ago. They drifted out until they could launch then off they went.

I have ridden upwind to Brighton-St Kilda and back in a due N and the wind is not too bad 800m off the beach at St Kilda. Others have ridden Brighton-Port Melbourne return in a NW.

For a pure downwinder in S-SW wind Frankston to St Kilda would be the go. You could stay within 500m of the shore the whole way. Lots of beach activity to look at and self rescue is easy. You generally want to go fast downwind (out to sea) then carve crosswind back towards the beach, or slightly upwind. You get to ride faster, hit the waves at a better angle, rest your back leg, and get a closer look at the beach and the reef waves.

My plan is to do Hampton-Frankston and return in a S anything. My longest trip is Hampton-Mentone-Brighton-Hampton for a 20km circuit. I got a bit chicken/sensible as I passed Ricketts and found myself having to ride far from shore or cut back a couple km into the coast. The Brighton-Hampton leg was a blast because there was no risk or urgency and I could hit the waves upwind the whole way.

BTW For kite touring, we've done Hampton-Ricketts return numerous times. We often stop at Ricketts for a chat and a drink. I usually get toey and want to keep riding. It feels wrong to be wasting time sitting on the beach when there's wind and waves to be bashed. On a recent trip I stopped several times and changed knots on the kite when the wind lulled a couple of times.

sk1nner
VIC, 181 posts
9 Jan 2012 3:54PM
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To Kite from Torquay to St Kilda must have been amazing.

If any of you are looking to get a few people togeather for a downwinder let me know, moved from WA a couple of months ago and whilst im loving kiting on the bay im missing the epic downwinders. Confident with longer trips (30km+) too if theres the opportunity.

Peterc150
VIC, 710 posts
16 Jan 2012 12:30AM
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The upwind then downwind option is a good one - we have done this at Brighton in northerlies, and from Hampton up the Half Moon Bay and back.

The Torquay to St Kilda trip was epic, especially negotiating the rip. Big eddies and currents there. It was an incoming tide presumably, which would effectively have reduced the apparent wind speed.

If you are interested in doing some long downwinders in and around Port Phillip Bay - and possibly the 90 mile beach - PM me and advise your email & mobile. Or you can contact me via here: www.peterskiteboarding.com/

JW
VIC, 46 posts
20 Jan 2012 5:13PM
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Peter

I've done the downwinder from Brighton to Rye and its very sketchy.
I did it with a couple of mates on a solid northerly and we were tacking down the bay in the shipping channel. The wind dropped in and out a number of times and its not a good spot to get stuck. We made it but I wouldn't do it again as i dont trust northerlies! With no waves to hit its better to wait for the strong southerliy winds like last Wednesday!

dusta
WA, 2940 posts
20 Jan 2012 4:04PM
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started to watch the video but after 5 seconds the poo stance, helmet, purple wetsuit and unstable yawn-pro footage made me hit stop .


the robocop comment made me laugh . Unsure why you would need to dress up in combat gear to handle the conditions in the video but whatever floats your boat in vic

Peterc150
VIC, 710 posts
22 Jan 2012 10:01PM
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JW, thanks for the info on the downwinder from Brighton to Rye you did. Its not surprising the northerlies get patchy out in the middle of the bay.

Sound like southerlies from the other direction is the better option - as long as you can get a launch - and some sort of boat backup to be on the safe side.

Peterc150
VIC, 710 posts
24 Jan 2012 11:23PM
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Hey Dusta, I don't normally feed trolls, but for the benefit of other readers:

I wear the 1mm suit mainly for sun protection, but its handy when there are jelly fish about too.

I like wearing a helmet. I figure my brain is worth a fraction more than $140. I sometime mount a camera on it too.

The NPX vest is great for reducing impacts from jumps gone wrong.

And sunglasses are nice for reducing spray and glare.

And yes, my tongue is sticking out.










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