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The new red thing

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Created by desertyank > 9 months ago, 5 May 2011
desertyank
1262 posts
2 Jul 2011 2:48AM
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cisco said...

desertyank said...

I think I'll take a pass on the brick look.


Yes. A brick shytehouse in the middle of the Mojave Desert would be odd to say the least.




Actually....... at ElMirage, there are several of them, supplied and maintained by the BLM here...

desertyank
1262 posts
5 Aug 2011 8:53AM
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FINALLY!!!!! Got some time to finish the thing off. Pics show a 4.0 sail on it. I have additional sails too. the sail isn't high enough on the mast in the pic; it needs an inch or 2 to keep the wrinkles out.... Can't wait for a good day!





Let's ROCK!!!!!

Chook2
WA, 1245 posts
5 Aug 2011 9:07AM
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Love it !!!!!

Looks fantastic, Well done.

Keep us posted on how she flies.

Hiko
1229 posts
5 Aug 2011 11:58AM
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Wow! I especially like the sail Looks really good to me

cisco
QLD, 12346 posts
5 Aug 2011 3:35PM
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Kevlar sail, adjustable mast rake, alloy wheels, flash paint job and a Seabreeze sticker to boot.

Man this thing is just too sexy for words. Bring on the breeze!!

The usual conditions apply. Pics and video or it didn't happen!!

Nikrum
TAS, 1972 posts
5 Aug 2011 8:55PM
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DY,
All of the above and more. I doubt that you will need another Sail. I'd like to see what Paul has to say about it but I think you are gunna FLY, speaking of flying; Haven't you got a Flying Pig to fit???
Ron


PS; Ahh! 1033??

desertyank
1262 posts
5 Aug 2011 10:48PM
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Thanks all I'll update the link with some pictures from El Mirage when I go..

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
5 Aug 2011 10:58PM
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sail height is perfect, you just need to move the sheeting on the boom forward till its pulling evenly front and back, that will get rid of the wrinkles on the luff
didnt I send you the other sticker too?

desertyank
1262 posts
5 Aug 2011 11:54PM
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landyacht said...

sail height is perfect, you just need to move the sheeting on the boom forward till its pulling evenly front and back, that will get rid of the wrinkles on the luff
didnt I send you the other sticker too?


I haven't received anything yet, but it can take a while to get from lake lefroy to el mirage sometimes, depending on the wind.....

In the pic, the boom is actually hitting the support tube, so the downhaul stops. I have a mod in mind to do today that should cure the problem without raising the sail on the mast. I'll look at the sheeting on the boom also.....

desertyank
1262 posts
6 Aug 2011 8:30AM
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landyacht said...


didnt I send you the other sticker too?


Got the mail today; yes two stickers came Thank you Professor!!

Nikrum
TAS, 1972 posts
6 Aug 2011 10:57AM
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Yeah Well! DY Don't yak about it get 'em on and get the Pic's out there...
Ron

Hiko
1229 posts
6 Aug 2011 9:56AM
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desertyank said...

landyacht said...


didnt I send you the other sticker too?


Got the mail today; yes two stickers came Thank you Professor!!


Got mine too yesterday Thanks Paul!

Nikrum
TAS, 1972 posts
6 Aug 2011 2:46PM
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Ok! Paul that does it!! You're gonna have to start making more of the Stickers and marketing them.. WE ALL WANT AT LEAST ONE.. OK?? Capiche??
Ron

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
6 Aug 2011 6:09PM
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I see the rowlock now, in that case lift the head by 6" and sheet on again, your sheeting is almost bang on

dudevato
19 posts
7 Aug 2011 2:52AM
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DY, Wow, that is some nice work! With that decal you'll have people wanting to know where they can buy one. Again, that sure looks Nice!

desertyank
1262 posts
8 Aug 2011 8:15AM
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landyacht said...

I see the rowlock now, in that case lift the head by 6" and sheet on again, your sheeting is almost bang on


No pics, but I took the easy fix. I shortened the mast step pipe by a couple inches, and if I need to, I can raise the sail a couple more

cisco
QLD, 12346 posts
8 Aug 2011 9:00PM
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desertyank said...
No pics, but I took the easy fix. I shortened the mast step pipe by a couple inches, and if I need to, I can raise the sail a couple more


And of course you bell mouthed it while you were at it didn't you, or did you not??

If you did not you might have a snappy yacht with a snapped mast.

desertyank
1262 posts
8 Aug 2011 10:52PM
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cisco said...

desertyank said...
No pics, but I took the easy fix. I shortened the mast step pipe by a couple inches, and if I need to, I can raise the sail a couple more


And of course you bell mouthed it while you were at it didn't you, or did you not??

If you did not you might have a snappy yacht with a snapped mast.




The tube has the last half inch or so tapered out to the edge to create the flare. the outside diameter of it has to stay intact in order to fit in the base. There is also a carbon fiber windsurfer mast extension inside the mast to help spread out the load.... I hope...

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
9 Aug 2011 6:33PM
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it will barely flex

Nikrum
TAS, 1972 posts
9 Aug 2011 11:16PM
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DY, I don't know how far up inside the Lower section of the mast you have taken the inner reinforcing section but I hope it is at least 1/3rd of the length or perhaps 1/2. My foray into those realms lead to a catastrophic collapse of the lower section in a Spin out. My reinforcing only went 500mm and then a further piece was about 250mm inside that.. Not a show of crushing but the stiffness suddenly ceasing was the downfall. Which ever way you look at it I finished up with the mast snapping and tearing my sail.
Ron

Test pilot 1
WA, 1430 posts
10 Aug 2011 5:22PM
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In the spin out that snapped your mast, did you have your sail fully sheeted in or did you leave it loose as if left loose it is the sail snapping side to side that snaps the mast and/or tips the yacht over
Next time you spin out keep that sheet rope nice and tight. On my last spin out it was amazing how much time I had to think about what I was doing and to actively haul my sheet rope in.

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
10 Aug 2011 6:11PM
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Test pilot 1 said...

In the spin out that snapped your mast, did you have your sail fully sheeted in or did you leave it loose as if left loose it is the sail snapping side to side that snaps the mast and/or tips the yacht over
Next time you spin out keep that sheet rope nice and tight. On my last spin out it was amazing how much time I had to think about what I was doing and to actively haul my sheet rope in.

you might have had too much stiffening with the 2 pieces.
or as tp1 says did you have the sail out,and goosewing it.
tp1 slams his 30% carbon 2 piece , every time he smacks down, and im stuffed if i know how it survives

Nikrum
TAS, 1972 posts
10 Aug 2011 11:08PM
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Well then, I guess I've been GOOSED (I let the Hseet go) and when she went the Razor whipped around really quickly.
Thanks TP1 and Paul

Ron

desertyank
1262 posts
11 Aug 2011 7:03AM
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cisco said...

desertyank said...

I think I'll take a pass on the brick look.


Yes. A brick shytehouse in the middle of the Mojave Desert would be odd to say the least.




Not a 'brick shytehouse', but how about a 'concrete cr@pper'?



finally got her out to the dez, but not enough wind to sail as long as I could stay... I forgot to add the additional link to drop the sail head down; it should be perfect soon.. I still have larger sails in the building queue....[}:)]


Nikrum
TAS, 1972 posts
11 Aug 2011 10:00AM
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DY,
I don't suppose you got to lay in it and pray for the wind to come ?? Ain't nothin' like laying there and looking like some kinda Nut. Oh! Shut up TP1.
Ron



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