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Willy Nilly Land Yacht Build: Advise Welcome

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Created by WillyNilly2 > 9 months ago, 26 Aug 2011
WillyNilly2
19 posts
26 Aug 2011 11:44AM
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Hey new found friends:
I am starting this post to ask questions that may have already been answered on the forum, but if you have time to respond to anything you see, I welcome it.

Thanks in advance.
Ron







sabydent
360 posts
26 Aug 2011 1:04PM
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If you want a metric tape measure, send me a PM, I will send you one. Canada is officially metric, just that the older crowd has not yet coverted. Both imperial and metric are readily available. As I understand it the US was going to convert to metric and join the rest of the world...then they realized that they owned most of the guns and therefore it didn't matter.

Don't forget to allow for your brace aft of your mast step and to add a reinforcing strap.



Brian

WillyNilly2
19 posts
26 Aug 2011 2:17PM
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Thanks Brian ~ I will add those braces that you suggest. Ron

Nikrum
TAS, 1972 posts
26 Aug 2011 5:25PM
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Yeah Ron,
Lookin' good! You have gone about a some things a little differently but so long as it works who cares. Yu doin' a nice job for a novice..
Go for it,
Ron


Oh Yeah! Brian, I like your thinking ------About the Yanks and guns an all.

cisco
QLD, 12321 posts
26 Aug 2011 6:16PM
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WillyNilly2 said...

Hey new found friends:
I am starting this post to ask questions that may have already been answered on the forum, but if you have time to respond to anything you see, I welcome it.

Thanks in advance.
Ron





Might I suggest you wear leather gloves, long sleeved shirt buttoned up at the neck and maybe a cloth cap while welding. Apart from being burned by flying weld sparks you could also give yourself UV ray burns.

I also wear safety glasses under my welding hood because when you lift it to look at the weld, the slag sometimes cracks off and could send a hot piece straight into your eye.

I am sure none of us want to see the newest member of our fraternity become blinded before he gets to ride his hot yacht.

The way you are crouching does not look very steady. If you had a short stool to sit on when welding at that height you would probably get better weld quality.

Apart from that you look to be doing very well. Have fun brother but please be SAFE. Cheers Cisco

EDIT:- When you are building your next yacht it would be a good idea to drill the bolt holes in your rear x member BEFORE you weld it to your spine tube. A lot easier and more accurate.

WillyNilly2
19 posts
27 Aug 2011 7:30AM
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Hi Cisco
Yes I agree with you on the safety issue. This is not me in the photo although I did offer all of the safety equipment to him ... well you know kids these days

WillyNilly2
19 posts
27 Aug 2011 12:26PM
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More Photos from Friday Night







WillyNilly2
19 posts
27 Aug 2011 12:27PM
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More Photos from Friday Night





cisco
QLD, 12321 posts
27 Aug 2011 3:09PM
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WillyNilly2 said...

Hi Cisco
Yes I agree with you on the safety issue. This is not me in the photo although I did offer all of the safety equipment to him ... well you know kids these days


Aaah!! Say no more. Say no more.

Love the bonnet badge. Are you going to incorporate it as a sort of rigid foil sail.

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
27 Aug 2011 9:25PM
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its a bit freaky that the mini logo was so close to the PMF winged winking ,grinning pig

WillyNilly2
19 posts
28 Aug 2011 3:11AM
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err... how do I delete images from my post... I think I got "click-happy"

sabydent
360 posts
28 Aug 2011 4:08AM
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I like lots of photos.

Nikrum
TAS, 1972 posts
28 Aug 2011 10:06AM
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WN, I wouldn't worry about it! You satisfied the criteria Lots of photo's
Just be a little careful next time, we all get caught at some time or other.
Ron

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
28 Aug 2011 10:11AM
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as the author of the post you should have some extra iconsthat we dont see, like delete and edit.
they last a few days

WillyNilly2
19 posts
8 Sep 2011 10:10AM
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Hi again ~ I have a photo of the Yacht construction up to this point that I wanted to share with the class. Tonight I am learning how to fiberglass.


harleyd
183 posts
8 Sep 2011 12:03PM
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Looks verrrry nice..... One question .. If the mast slides over the mast suport, what stops it when it comes to the angled brace? Not sure what everyone thinks but i am a little concerned with the mast splitting. The mast slips inside my support...
I guess we can see what happens... keep me posted on your thoughts,
the seat looks really nice. Have you thought of a name for your dirt boat?
I tried calling you but got no answer.. ill try again sometime

Nikrum
TAS, 1972 posts
8 Sep 2011 8:37PM
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Duuuuuude! Lookin' Good. I assumed that the mast was going inside. Best had tell us what you're up.
Ron

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
8 Sep 2011 8:09PM
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all seems to be going to plan,some good clean woodwork happening there

grlynch
QLD, 208 posts
8 Sep 2011 10:53PM
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Nice work.

I originally was looking putting the mast step inside the mast as well. then after much deliberation I decided to cut it off and start again. My big concern was the mast splitting as well. You've essentially got point contact on the wrong side of a brittle tube from an engineering standpoint. My plan was to reinforce the bejesus out of the mast, then i realised it was easier/cheaper to replace the mast step with an old fence post from the recycle yard (still had concrete on/in it).

Like you i am using a smaller diameter tube for the spine. I realised it was easier to cut two holes in the mast step tube with a hole saw, (from memory offsetting the holes by 12mm gave about a 10deg rake). I had to cut the bottom out for the build in my thread, but it is very neat in the kids mini i am also looking at where i did it from scratch, (also you won't need the strap.

Let me know if you want me to detail with some photo's.

Glenn

cisco
QLD, 12321 posts
9 Sep 2011 8:57AM
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That seat is shaping up really well.

Only disadvantage with a fixed sear back is that it probably will not fit into the boot of your car like this.

WillyNilly2
19 posts
9 Sep 2011 12:51PM
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Thanks for your comments, I have a plan for the mast-over technique. When I get the photos I will post. D-Day is in a week and a half, I am anticipating smooth sailing. More later...

WillyNilly2
19 posts
9 Sep 2011 2:14PM
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One more photo before I call it a night

Nikrum
TAS, 1972 posts
9 Sep 2011 7:01PM
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WN,
if
you take any notice to them Queenslanders you sillier than they are..Hay! CISCO

Looks like you've been ousted as the Pilot WN.. Bleedin' Dog s will do that to you every time. Could come the time when you will have to build a tandem unit so the Lab' can go with you.
Ron

sn
WA, 2775 posts
9 Sep 2011 5:22PM
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Nikrum said...

you will have to build a tandem unit so the Lab' can go with you.
Ron



been done before- ask Paul (Landyacht) about Spot-T-dog and his "sidecar"

with a bit of luck he might even have a photo!

cisco
QLD, 12321 posts
10 Sep 2011 10:05AM
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Nikrum said...

WN,
if
you take any notice to them Queenslanders you sillier than they are..Hay! CISCO


I resemble that!!

WillyNilly2
19 posts
10 Sep 2011 2:30PM
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New post idea: Dogs on Land Yachts...

Nikrum
TAS, 1972 posts
10 Sep 2011 11:26PM
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cisco said...

Nikrum said...

WN,
if
you take any notice to them Queenslanders you sillier than they are..Hay! CISCO


I resemble that!!




Yeah! I know, I saw your picture[}:)]

WN2. "Why Not?"

WillyNilly2
19 posts
20 Sep 2011 6:49AM
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We launched! BlackRock Northern Nevada


desertyank
1260 posts
20 Sep 2011 7:42AM
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WillyNilly2 said...

We launched! BlackRock Northern Nevada



Beautiful

How did it sail! You have a smile on your face, so it must have been ok........

Mine's done too, been waiting for wind

More pics, and the story of the first sailing please... Also, where is the furry captain in the picture?[}:)]

Nikrum
TAS, 1972 posts
20 Sep 2011 9:49AM
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Desertyank,
I would loan you the missus to help with the wind thing but you don't needing to go breaking any records just yet.

WN2 your machine look good out there in the middle.
Ron

WillyNilly2
19 posts
20 Sep 2011 8:16AM
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Short version of the story: It sailed Great! I did not do the sheeting until I arrived at the lake bed ~ so I had no idea what I was doing. That will come later with a couple of minor modifications. The wind was gusting and we clocked it at about 20 MPH (or 32.2 KPH). I had a big grin on my face the whole time I was out there so I would say it was an enormous success. Thank you all for the guidance and I am sure I will have more questions as I get into the sheeting. My furry friend did not make this trip, she will be attending events in the future!

I am adding a couple of other non sailing photos. One of the rocket that hit my bicycle tire and a couple of shots of the palaya.
Ron (WN2)







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