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Created by IPKSA > 9 months ago, 17 Apr 2010
IPKSA
177 posts
17 Apr 2010 6:12AM
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Well it is an Island too, with lots of beaches , wind and short on people but long on pubs !

Some good debates here, interesting stuff -

Long live the European miniyachts - barrow wheels and it must fit inside a 5.6m long loop of rope - after that anything goes !

Welcome to the world of land sailing or sandyachting as we call it in Ireland - please consider a link to our small association. www.ipksa.info , The Irish Power Kite & Sandyacht Association

You might even like to link some of our videos or join us for our annual international Miniyacht holiday in Kerry from 26th May -



















Regards

IPKSA Chairperson
Alan

Gizmo
SA, 2865 posts
17 Apr 2010 8:56AM
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Welcome to the forum, the videos are great.
I have noticed most of the yachts are purchased rather than "home" built.
As you and your fellow sailors have noticed on seabreeze there are some plans for the Lake Lefroy Mini yacht.

cisco
QLD, 12321 posts
17 Apr 2010 11:17AM
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Hi Alan,
Rest assured you guys and your Pottys have not gone unnoticed. I think I posted one of your videos to the forum some time back.

Your 5.6m rope loop rule is very appealing to us as well.

I, as well as many other Australians, am of Irish descent and visiting the Emerald Isle is something I would love to do. It will have to go on my bucket list of things to do before I go to the hot place.

Your beaches look really great but the air temperature has me worried. Can you tell us a bit about when your windy season is and what conditions are usual.
Cheers Cisco.

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
16 May 2010 8:45PM
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Long live the European miniyachts - barrow wheels and it must fit inside a 5.6m long loop of rope - after that anything goes !




last time the 5.6m of rope rule was mentioned we immediately had all the armchair experts telling us what the definitive way is to apply that measurement.
Perhaps as Alan is a chairperson of such things, he could give us a more definitive answer. the photo ,below of my mini , has the rope set up in 2 ways , which would you use to measure the yacht , As us Aussies and kiwis couldnt agree on how it would be done




IPKSA
177 posts
17 May 2010 5:15AM
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Hi all,
Well we are adopting the KISS approach re miniyachts and hope to keep it that way for a while as do the French, UK and other Europeans. KISS !
Keep It Simple Stupid !

The idea is if the footprint of the wheels is within the loop of rope , well thats it !

SO in the pictures above photo 1 is closest, because all the rope needs do is keep outside the footprint (where the wheel touches the ground).

X-sails also fit into this. So you can have whatever you want once the wheel foot print fits the loop ! Simple If you want a 3m or 10m sail its up to u !

We used to make em but it works out better to buy and keep them similar- materials cost too much and getting sails made one off is crazy dear, Who needs to buy several different diameter 5m lengths of expensive aluminium for every mast section you want to make, sod that leave it to th eexperts!

Our windy season is Oct - May - sometimes more but we generaly stay off the popular beaches June July August and head for the quieter ones. SW Ireland and the Dingle peninsular area in 2 weeks, last week the very top of the North at Benone - Castlerock, August - Donegal in the NW, April - Bettystown on the East 30 km N of Dublin. We dont mind !

Throw in trips to De PAnne in Belgium, La Franqui in France and Racing at Hoylake, Liverpool so far this year - we are up for it .!

Worlds in Belgium in OCT , bring it on.

Great debates guys - come over to us too www.ipksa.info

Some recent Irish Video -



landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
17 May 2010 8:47PM
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Thank you Alan , your answer was music to my ears . witha skinny front wheel or a tiny bit off the front I reckon my Lake lefroy mini should just squeeze in

aus230
WA, 1659 posts
18 May 2010 6:57PM
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paul you should shoe it in, my understanding it is where the wheel touches the ground at the bottom on the widest --longest contact point, not half way up the rim.
cheers

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
18 May 2010 8:53PM
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the yacht is still in the backyard , so i shall take a photo for alan to comment. I havent heard the word contact point used so far
now go catch a fish vic

aus230
WA, 1659 posts
18 May 2010 9:14PM
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On my way there, heading for mt magnet at the moment and then up to karatha.


extract from alans post

(the idea is if the footprint of the wheels is within the loop of rope , well thats it !

SO in the pictures above photo 1 is closest, because all the rope needs do is keep outside the footprint (where the wheel touches the ground).

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
18 May 2010 9:25PM
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My humble apologies , amigo.
yes I just reread it , will measure tommorow
all smiles here

bazl
WA, 700 posts
23 May 2010 11:27AM
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IPKSA said...

Hi all,
Well we are adopting the KISS approach re miniyachts and hope to keep it that way for a while as do the French, UK and other Europeans. KISS !
Keep It Simple Stupid !

The idea is if the footprint of the wheels is within the loop of rope , well thats it !

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Worlds in Belgium in OCT , bring it on.



Can't find a reference in FISLY rules for miniyachts, is there one?
What rules will they use at the Worlds?

IPKSA
177 posts
23 May 2010 4:39PM
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Correct - No FISLY rules for miniyachts ..yet !

We bring it up at every FISLY meeting for the past few yrs.
So as a side ba,r countries have been meeting and have discussed the need for simple rules to get the ball rolling- hence the 5.6m rope.
Its on the agenda again for a FISLY meet in July.

No miniyacht class in the worlds either, only C2,3 ,5,8 Standart,Promo - but european countries now have regular miniyacht races - at most events. Great way to get people involved in the sport- its a fun class. Mind you when you use google translate to translate mini chars (miniyacht in french) from French it says mini tank !

for example look at the classes here in the upcoming French Championships,

http://www.bessincharavoile.com/index.php



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