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Land Sailing ....Trailers

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Created by Gizmo > 9 months ago, 3 Nov 2011
Gizmo
SA, 2865 posts
3 Nov 2011 7:53PM
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There are some interesting trailer setups in the Lefroy WA Open thread www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Land-Yacht-Sailing/Events-Competitions/WA-Open-Lake-Lefroy-28-30-October-2011/

What would the "Ultimate Land Yacht Trailer" be? If you were to start from scratch what would it have? Or are you happy with your setup.
And to the Blokart people how do you deal with the wet, salty or sandy clothes if you carry everything in the car?

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
3 Nov 2011 9:31PM
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ours is a big work box trailer with bars that fit on to suit the yacht/occasion. the Sandgropers have developed a terrible habit of leaving their axles in when they travel.
its something I go to great lengths to avoid so I can fit more yachts in the trailer.
re the clothes , there is this amazing thing around these days called PLASTIC BAGS

colk2004
317 posts
4 Nov 2011 4:40AM
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If any one has got anything that's a 'must have' speak now. I'm just about to do the usual UK thing for a trailer. Find caravan, knock top off, build up into required trailer! And I'm at the just about to start building stage.

Cheers Col

hills
SA, 1622 posts
4 Nov 2011 8:37AM
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I use a small boat trailer that was previously converted to a canoe trailer. I then made up the mounts specifically for the Pacific Magic.


Gizmo
SA, 2865 posts
4 Nov 2011 9:00AM
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This is the 7x5 trailer built the top for years ago, class 5 on the roof a Mini yacht in pieces inside.



Very convenient for sails, wet clothes, tool boxes etc.... every thing inside.
The roof was made strong enough for 2 deck chairs as an elevated viewing platform.
Overall it was a bit heavy.
If I was to do it again there would be a BBQ mount on the side as well as a vice, for weekends away I would consider taking a small 240v generator that could run an angle grinder or drill.

Chook2
WA, 1244 posts
5 Nov 2011 7:16PM
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All sorts of transport at Lefroy last weekend.








landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
5 Nov 2011 7:25PM
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colk2004 said...

If any one has got anything that's a 'must have' speak now. I'm just about to do the usual UK thing for a trailer. Find caravan, knock top off, build up into required trailer! And I'm at the just about to start building stage.

Cheers Col

col , Im a great believer in at least 2 uses for everything, si I would rebuild the flat bed to about 400mm deep,with a drop tail, then make removable carry bars for the landyachts, get in the habit of removing the axles for transport and storage. i dont need to tell you what it is like when the axles corrode in[}:)]
. the trailer then becomes a really useful unit for transporting furniture,rubbish,camping gear, and when you change to a new yacht , or better 2 yachts, it all adapts, you could even fit dinghies on cradles

Clemco
430 posts
9 Nov 2011 8:20AM
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Something like this? Sails masts and booms are all in the box underneath.

colk2004
317 posts
9 Nov 2011 9:26PM
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Very definitively like that. You can't do me a close up of how you have the yachts stacked can you? Problem I'll have is the missus wants a mini (and it's a good excuse to get designing/tinkering/bodging/building). So I'll need to plan for a future expansion!!

Cheers Col

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
9 Nov 2011 9:31PM
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Clemco said...



Something like this? Sails masts and booms are all in the box underneath.

No, no ,no
if you pulled the wheels /axles off you could have happily sat 4 yachts on that trailer
Thats why the axles are removable

Clemco
430 posts
11 Nov 2011 5:59PM
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It can take 3. But you know what they say.. 3's a crowd.

IPKSA
177 posts
12 Nov 2011 9:50PM
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The Big Rig - Wheel Rack on the back takes about 16 17"wheels and locks down, - Sail box on the deck. Compartment in the deck which holds all the alloy axle tubes.
(wheels and axle tubes are behind rear axle so heavy stuff behind axle for balance and weight distribution) Mast rack down the centre for 6-8 Standart masts. Built by us Paddys !



Transports up to 5 Standarts and 2 miniyachts ! --Frequently ! Easy to tow having 4 wheels and brakes. We purpose built this ourselves from a box trailer that was wrecked in a rear end shunt. Great to start building from a raw chassis .


www.ipksa.info

Hiko
1229 posts
13 Nov 2011 4:48AM
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Well I did think of posting a pic of mine but I am absolutely not going to now !!!

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
13 Nov 2011 9:58PM
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I concur, you win, one for the paddies

colk2004
317 posts
14 Nov 2011 7:01AM
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Bringing things back to reality. Hers the start of my trailer.



Cheers Col

IPKSA
177 posts
14 Nov 2011 8:12AM
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Thanks guys -

Col, thats a great place to start - it looks like it has brakes too.

If its galvanized your onto a real winner - If we were doing it again we would use light aluminium cheker plate from the start. ( we used ply and it rotted so changed it for the alu checker plate). Also, using large diamater waste pipes for sail storage , keeps the weight down. Better still if you can get a sail box/locker from a catamaran trailer they are great - waterproof and light !

We have another trailer for the miniyachts only ! Its a 7' x 4' single axle galv with a ramp and baloon type road tyres (great on soft sand). We extended the sides to a height of just over 4' all around and have a tarp cover that fits perfectly snug over it . Its the home for 6 or 7 miniyachts with mast and sails !

Keep us updated on progress Col

Alan

sn
WA, 2775 posts
14 Nov 2011 12:01PM
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I dont know where I saw the pic.- but it was from ages ago.

the trailer carried a couple of landyachts of (IIRC) about the size of a sandgropers club 88, but I think with motorcycle wheels fitted- but as a bonus, the trailer itself was a monster sized landyacht when unhooked from the towing vehicle.

someone here will probably remember where to find the pic!

stephen.

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
14 Nov 2011 8:15PM
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sn said...

I dont know where I saw the pic.- but it was from ages ago.

the trailer carried a couple of landyachts of (IIRC) about the size of a sandgropers club 88, but I think with motorcycle wheels fitted- but as a bonus, the trailer itself was a monster sized landyacht when unhooked from the towing vehicle.

someone here will probably remember where to find the pic!

stephen.

it was an ingenious chilean design

Gizmo
SA, 2865 posts
15 Nov 2011 6:03PM
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IPKSA said...
If we were doing it again we would use light aluminium cheker plate from the start. ( we used ply and it rotted so changed it for the alu checker plate).


Just a question with the ply, was it open to the weather or was it covered by a box etc, I was actually thinking replacing a rusted floor with a ply floor on a covered box type trailer for a friend.

Hiko
1229 posts
15 Nov 2011 3:46PM
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Regarding ply my trailer was pulled out from under a farm hedge a chassis,
springs and running gear and a sheet of ply for the deck It was old then.
I derusted the frame etc and decided the ply deck was not too bad and reused it That was 25 years ago
I just replaced the ply deck this year so I think if the ply is good exterior grade it can have a long life especially if the end grain is sealed
It spends its life outside in all weathers
Regarding brakes have had a bit of experience with brakes on boat trailers
Drum brakes, beaches, sand, salt are bad combinations IMHO unless you love maintaining these things

Chook2
WA, 1244 posts
15 Nov 2011 7:19PM
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Brakes are a real pain on trailers as they are seldom used all the time. Boat trailers are a classic for this.
I use mechanical disc brakes on all the trailers I build, that require brakes.
They have a stainless steel cable that is activated with a galvanized mechanical override hitch to the galvanized discs/hubs on the axles.
The disc rotors/hubs are fully galvanized except for the braking surface and the pad assembly is all hot dipped galvanized with stainless steel bolts, pins and bushes.
They are easily adjusted in seconds with a shifting spanner and run friction free when not activated.
They are reasonably priced for the job they do and are easy to fit and set up from scratch on the axle. They come with galv backing mountings that you weld to the axle to carry them.
Mine were obtained from "Martins trailer parts" in Perth.

http://www.trailerparts.net.au/assets/catalog.pdf Page 35

C2303A CALIPER MECHANICAL - TRIGG or
C2303C CALIPER MECHANICAL - ALKO

Then choose your hubs to suit.
C2106B STANDARD HOLDEN MECHANICAL DISC 260mm
C2107B HQ HOLDEN MECHANICAL DISC 260mm
C2108B FORD MECHANICAL DISC 260mm
C2110B VELOX WHEELS MECHANICAL DISC 260mm
C2112B JAP MECHANICAL DISC 260mm
C2114B L/CRUISER 6 STUD MECHANICAL DISC 280mm

You won't be disapointed with these beauties!!!!

Hiko
1229 posts
15 Nov 2011 7:44PM
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Good advice there chook!

IPKSA
177 posts
20 Nov 2011 6:30AM
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Gizmo said...

IPKSA said...
If we were doing it again we would use light aluminium cheker plate from the start. ( we used ply and it rotted so changed it for the alu checker plate).


Just a question with the ply, was it open to the weather or was it covered by a box etc, I was actually thinking replacing a rusted floor with a ply floor on a covered box type trailer for a friend.


We used what we call WBP Ply (water boil proof- or something like that ) and used aluminium paint on it. The deck of the trailer only lasted 4 years ! It lives outside and I suppose our climate is perhaps a little bit harsh at times - biggest problem was that the ply deck was holding water which started to attack the edges and ingress between the ply. Anyway the checker plate was not much more expensive and we should have done it first time. The Sail box now needs to have the ply top surface replaced it too is delaminating and bad drainage is the cause - 5 yrs it lasted - will also replace with alu checker .

Was sure the ply would last much much longer but alas no.

Alan

harleyd
183 posts
28 Nov 2011 9:51AM
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my ride !!!!


harleyd
183 posts
28 Nov 2011 9:53AM
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this way i can set up camp and still use jeep to shuttle

cisco
QLD, 12321 posts
29 Nov 2011 1:00AM
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Classic Teardrop Van there harley.

desertyank
1260 posts
21 Jan 2012 9:43AM
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I just broke this mini trailer in today. Chinese made thing, assembles easily, and held the Mojave Magic rig nicely. I added rollers on the back to assist solo loading, and added the wheel holder on the front. My LLM will also fit on the side opposite the giant sail bag with the quiver in it. The tongue weight is almost nothing, and the Mighty Fit had no problem getting it to the playa.






Now I need to make something to hold a tool box.....

Nikrum
TAS, 1972 posts
21 Jan 2012 1:48PM
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Strewth! Yank,
I ain't knocking it but the Trailer is surely basic, isn't it?? I don't know as we'd get away with the overhang here, at least without Clarence Flags. Mind you some of the drivers over here should have their eyes properly tested, pedestrians as well.

Now How's about some sailing footage??
Ron

colk2004
317 posts
21 Jan 2012 8:03PM
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Just about finished my trailer and I have to say Ron is right (picks up shotgun, walks outside, and shoots self). My trailer is covered in reflectors for the front, back and sides, forward and rear lights. The UK's road worthy-ness test now covers the towbar electrical hook up. Fail and it's a re-test after fixing and car off the road in the mean time. I need to move to a different continent!

Cheers Col

colk2004
317 posts
21 Jan 2012 8:04PM
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colk2004 said...

Just about finished my trailer and I have to say Ron is right (picks up shotgun, walks outside, and shoots self). My trailer is covered in reflectors for the front, back and sides, forward and rear lights. The UK's road worthy-ness test now covers the towbar electrical hook up. Fail and it's a re-test after fixing and car off the road in the mean time. I need to move to a different continent!

Cheers Col


Thats forward position lights and a fog light as well as all the other normal cr*p.

Cheers Col



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