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Old photos that made me smile

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Created by Chook2 > 9 months ago, 10 Jan 2012
Chook2
WA, 1244 posts
10 Jan 2012 7:19PM
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Doesn't take much to amuse me.

This one has potential on those low wind days.







These were all on the web and thought I'd share.

desertyank
1260 posts
11 Jan 2012 2:55AM
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Nice pics.

Been a while since we've flown a flag with 13 stars too

gibberjoe
SA, 956 posts
11 Jan 2012 9:42AM
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Thanks Chook........some of us dont realise that most things have been done

then lost in time. The biggest theme from old photos seems to be that it was a

multi person [family] passtime.....where now it is individual stress release

beachball57
SA, 538 posts
11 Jan 2012 11:56AM
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perhaps it should go back to it's roots then, and become a "mulit perosn" family past timeonce again, from the photo's they all seem to be enjoying they selves,, i bet there was no politic's back then

cisco
QLD, 12321 posts
11 Jan 2012 11:59AM
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Charley's rig cracked me up.

Nikrum
TAS, 1972 posts
11 Jan 2012 2:04PM
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Hey! That reminds me, There was someone on the Forum who had a massive Fiber Glass Body for a Passenger LY.. Is it one of those that has fallen by the Wayside??
Ron

PS; It was a low res image then so if it is still about can you ???? Upgrade the pic' and reload it..

sn
WA, 2775 posts
11 Jan 2012 11:55AM
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I think that fibreglass sailbus was a kiwi machine being built for a beachside resort or hotel, but was cancelled halfway through for some reason.

stephen

colk2004
317 posts
11 Jan 2012 5:15PM
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You've gotta love those old photos. Here's a challenge for you. A while ago I found a great photo of a huge Land Yacht at LLF with a guy sat on it wearing his Sunday best suit and a stockmans hat - can't find it anywhere now.....

Cheers Col

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
11 Jan 2012 8:38PM
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AD landyachts found it on the greenbird website

colk2004
317 posts
12 Jan 2012 2:22AM
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Thats the one.



It's the fred flinstone wheels that did it for me That must have been one rough old ride.

Cheers Col

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
12 Jan 2012 8:31PM
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desertyank said...

Nice pics.

Been a while since we've flown a flag with 13 stars too

I was sent acopy of this photo from friends in California
I believe the problem is that 13 stars predates photography?

gibberjoe
SA, 956 posts
22 Feb 2012 2:46PM
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landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
22 Feb 2012 2:45PM
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colk2004 said...

Thats the one.



It's the fred flinstone wheels that did it for me That must have been one rough old ride.

Cheers Col

Col I recall picking up the hubs of those actual wheels back in the 1980's and they took 2 people. the wheels,and mast step were rescued from being buried by causeway builders in the early 70's, but the remains were picked up by an environmental cleanup crew around1998 from the old clubhouse and ended as landfill. ther were 2 pulleys also recovered from the remains . the club has 1(sitting in a box in my office as we have no clubhouse) and I believe an ex-member who frequents this site may have the other one(not me or TP1)
Its a frustrating yacht to find info about as the owner of the photo album<which that image appears to have been scanned from,is relly hard to track down. the album has a collection of kodak brownie prints taken by a chap that worked in the area and passed on to his family, and is the only known collection from that area.
Our museum had the album for a short while and didnt copy,preserve or record the details of the owner. so all i have is a name -Fred Chambers.
I sat down one day and rang very Chambers in WA and almost worked out their family tree, with some help from one lovely lady in Busselton. I even found one of her missing cousins!!!!! but never did track down the album

sn
WA, 2775 posts
23 Feb 2012 6:49PM
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heres where I first got infected by landyachting

There was supposed to be 3 landyachts in the photo used for this publicity blurb, but some one managed to bend one of them by parking it between a concrete curb and a parked bus.

the remains of these landyachts are now with the kalgoorlie scout troop- but I was told today that they now have a bunch of Blokarts to mess about with.

stephen

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
23 Feb 2012 8:01PM
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they are manky bits in a pile under a tree. they approached me to give aprice to fix them up, but i said they were U/S
they have some blokarts but i think they may belong to the scout leaders.
they come out maybe once a year and play

Nikrum
TAS, 1972 posts
23 Feb 2012 11:50PM
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Yeah Paul,
What Breed of LY are those in the Pic?? LAN/Nelson has one over here and is still sailing it..
You and TP1 have been remarkably quiet the last week or two??
Ron

aus230
WA, 1659 posts
23 Feb 2012 10:13PM
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while we are at it







Gizmo
SA, 2865 posts
24 Feb 2012 9:15AM
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sn said...



Nikrum said...

What Breed of LY are those in the Pic?? LAN/Nelson has one over here and is still sailing it..


Ron, the yachts were made in Adelaide by Colin Clark of "Free Flight" hang gliders they are a copy of the American "Manta" yachts.
They were sold as kit form yachts using hang glider aluminium high tensile tube and fittings. They worked very well although not super fast the rig had good low down grunt.
The only 2 problems they seemed to have is the back axle bent if treated harshly... but by inserting a large wooden in rear axle solved the problem, the other problem was the pivoting point of the front forks wore out quickly as it was just a brass bush.
One of these set up as a twin seater was my first yacht and had it for about 3 years.... great memories

The idea of a kit form yacht that could be built easily certainly has its merits.

Here are some construction details...... (it makes the LLMini look SUPER simple)







Nikrum
TAS, 1972 posts
24 Feb 2012 10:37AM
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Thanks Gizmo,
If it ain't one of them then it's one of the other Either way it is very much like a Manta.
Ta,
Ron

sn
WA, 2775 posts
24 Feb 2012 10:24AM
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Gizmo said...

The only 2 problems they seemed to have is the back axle bent if treated harshly... but by inserting a large wooden in rear axle solved the problem, the other problem was the pivoting point of the front forks wore out quickly as it was just a brass bush.


the one I was in did both- almost ripped a rear wheel off, and twisted the steering up pretty bad.

we (the scouts/ venturers) were just pointed towards the landyachts for some static photos, then were "asked" by the photography mob to have a go at sailing the things.
We used them at South Perth foreshore, and City Beach in a large carpark.
estimates were approx. 12000 or so scouts and visiting cubs, guides and parents had a go over the jamboree.
I am not sure how many landyachts my dad purchased for the jamboree, but there was only a couple left in one piece afterwards and a pile of salvaged parts.
Last I saw of any of them was in 1995- but I had spotted one hanging from the rafters in a storeroom at the back of scout HQ in Perth in 1992.
Kept bugging them to let me drag them out and overhauling them but they didnt want to know.
It was a pity- the scout troop I was running had free and open access to the RAAF secondary airstrip near GinGin for camping and activities. Even had a lock-up storeroom big enough for 6 cars offered to us. Able to leave our bulky camping gear there instead of carting it around. Perfect spot for landyachts until the Singapore airforce borrowed the place.

stephen

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
24 Feb 2012 10:37PM
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Nikrum said...

Yeah Paul,
What Breed of LY are those in the Pic?? LAN/Nelson has one over here and is still sailing it..
You and TP1 have been remarkably quiet the last week or two??
Ron



I will try to get a photo of the remains of theose scout yachts.
meanwhile TP1 and i have been doing what you folks call WORK !!!!!
5.15 starts and 40+degree days.
today was the day when i almost fell over from heat stroke.
buggered if I know how TP1 can work in overalls

Chook2
WA, 1244 posts
24 Feb 2012 11:32PM
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buggered if I know how TP1 can work in overalls


Because he practices, by wearing "Alfoil" when he sails!!!

gibberjoe
SA, 956 posts
25 Feb 2012 6:54AM
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mistery solved........my scouting troop were at that jamboreee in perth. they must have come back east with the thought implanted. Thay built at least two, which are probably [stored] somewhere. these things loose enthusiasm over time. I have seen them in the flesh, interpreation..... slightly aggricultural

Nikrum
TAS, 1972 posts
25 Feb 2012 9:53AM
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Now there is the problem with Kids.. They have a fairly low adhesion level and don't seem to stick to anything for too long, then cars and the opposite sex (Usualy) get involved. Then Families etc etc etc.. It is only when we get older that we suddenly remember "Now Shoot! There was a lot of fun" Many of us have developed skills over the uears we never had in our youth and we find ourselves Welding and scrounging and grilling. In some cases we steel the Missus's Sewing Thingy (OUCH! Love! Come cut the threads that are tying me to this piece of cloth).

After a little time and much adjusting and twiddling we find ourselves out on a Beach or Desert Going Like the Clappers..

"Life gets tiresome. Don't it"

Ron

Chook2
WA, 1244 posts
25 Feb 2012 10:30AM
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Kids, well not just the kids either, seem to live in an instant world.
They are devastated if their text isn't answered in seconds.
I find the same thing with the yachts.

My spare yacht "Saltern", has now done over 100 hours of sailing. (Of that I've used it for about 15 mins with the hand steering on it)
I always take it to the lake on the trailer and someone gets their bum in it.

I get heaps of interest about it, as they have had such a great time.
The question is always the same. How much would you charge to build one?
There is no way I would do this, as it defeats the whole purpose, and I don't have enough time anyway.

I have photocopied Pauls plans off seabreeze (inappropriate use of government equipment I know) and tell them to check out this forum.
All the phone numbers and addresses are there to source what's required locally and home they go with these plans, along with the offer of the use of my jig to weld them up when they get to that point.
So far, not one phone call and 8 packs given out.
The question is always the same. How much would you charge to build them?
They just want to pay the money and go sailing.
I'm stumped as to what the answer is

sn
WA, 2775 posts
25 Feb 2012 12:36PM
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It was the same with a lot of my mates when we were kids,
A few wanted thier billycarts to be the best, and right away- so dads were out there welding you frames up and buying flash wheels, and then they were usually rusting away in the back yard before long, but those of us that nailed together scrap wood and "borrowed" shopping trolley wheels or scrounged bike parts or old golf club cart wheels had heaps of fun over the holidays continually building, crashing, rebuilding, recrashing, and scrounging for more bits.

Half the fun is in the building! same goes with landyachts- they want it now, but soon lose interest.
If they have had to do some of the work (without realising its work)- the interest hangs around a bit longer.

stephen

Nikrum
TAS, 1972 posts
25 Feb 2012 7:56PM
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That sn has been the Barrow I've pushed for years..
To reiterate an old but very true story. When I was managing a farm up on the Sassafras in NSW we never had much money and my little boy he was little then but big for his size wanted one of those Robot Toys made up of 5 Lions. The Bloody thing was $90 and we never had the cash. Anyway I said "OK, you save the money and you can buy it, which he judiciously did by helping Feed Out the Cattle and every week I gave him $5 for his troubles.. He saved his 90 Bucks and so bought his Robot. This in itself was a good leson for him.

What happened next is the Story! Some weeks later my B-in-L, who worked for a Cab Company found another identical Robot in a Cab which they bought down and gave to Our Little Trav' who promptly put the one he bought to one side and treated the one he was given like crap until it no longer was of use to Man Nor Beast..

Moral of the Story?? Well figure it for yourself>> He had the Robot he payed for, for many years...

Ron

colk2004
317 posts
25 Feb 2012 6:12PM
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Here's another little tale from the UK of why making things yourself is a problem. In the office I work in more than half the staff cycle to work. If any of them get any problems they pay for it to be fixed at the local cycle shop - brake adjusting, punctures, every thing. I offered to do it for them.. but no takers. I let it drop. A few months later I overheard a conversation that was along the lines of - don't let Colin do it, he doesn't work at a bicycle shop so how on earth can he know how to fix a puncture

Pick the bones out of that one. There was a word that sprang to mind on hearing that to describe them.

Cheers Col

gibberjoe
SA, 956 posts
25 Feb 2012 9:22PM
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colk....well, youd'v had to go out and jump from a tall building to impress that

mob, what line of business was it, just so i can avoid it forever.[}:)]

let them all know...dont bother immigrating, we need better than that!!

Nikrum
TAS, 1972 posts
26 Feb 2012 9:45AM
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So Col,
They sound like a Great Bunch of Work Mates.. Aren't you the Lucky Sod then People like that aren't worth knowing.. Would Be if they Could Be types. I will Bet you London to a Brick ON that they are social climbers as well, just check the end of their noses and if they have a small or even large Brown Patch then you will know where they have had it and how far up has been..
Ron

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
26 Feb 2012 8:35PM
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have you considered that they simply dont know any better



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