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Thank you for mini ideas (no pun intended)

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Created by oldMXer > 9 months ago, 3 Feb 2010
oldMXer
130 posts
3 Feb 2010 12:23AM
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Just wanted to drop a note from Indiana, USA to thank all the contributors to this site. Middle of winter here, snow on the ground, more falling at this moment. Have had an absolute blast with landyacht constructed with ideas presented on this site. I would classify mine as a class 5 I suppose. (8'6" x 5'8" with 6m? sailboat sail, steel frame construction, stayed mast). Friend built a mini (dimensions?, windsurfer sail 4-5m?, entirely wood frame, 20" bicycle wheels and 3 forks). We cannot get over how close racing has been. About dead even most days if the wind is blowing (15-20mph). Still trying to figure out tuning my sail. Will post pictures and video, have to figure out how and shoot in a lower resolution I think. (pictures are blurry present res) There's nothing quite like a powerslide when a gust hits on a layer of snow and ice! Destroyed a pair of wheel barrow tires in two hours last Monday sliding around.
Difficult in this area to come up with windsurfer parts, but next build will be LLmini with 2 inch drill tube and wood composite rear axle. Feel that stored energy return from gusts will really help acceleration.
Curious to know how Clemcos rubber tire steering head worked out. Looked simple and promising.
Once again thanks and have a good day.

cisco
QLD, 12337 posts
3 Feb 2010 6:26AM
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Hi Eric,
Welcome to the forum. With all that snow and ice you talk about I wonder you do not have an ice boat.

Your comment about stored energy in flexy rear cross members/axles and stayed masts is interesting.

Most of our yachts tend to be the other way around having fairly stiff rear ends combined with flexible masts. The thinking here tends to be that the flexy masts "smooth out the gusts".

Stiff frames can give a rough ride at times. Some of the other guys who have built many yachts have done the science and experiments and would be more qualified to comment than myself.

If your photos are blurry you would need to go to a HIGHER resolution camera I believe.

If you have photos, please post plenty. We love them. Cheers Cisco.

P.S. I think a few of the guys here are finding that a well designed and built mini will give a class5 a good run for the money.

The rubber steering is actually Gizmo's idea.

oldMXer
130 posts
3 Feb 2010 4:48AM
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wonder how gizmo's rubber tire steering head is working? sorry about that.

oldMXer
130 posts
3 Feb 2010 6:08AM
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i think i figured out pic posting











j murray
SA, 947 posts
3 Feb 2010 9:08AM
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Hi Oldy, great shots , gutsy looking machine, welcome down under

Gizmo
SA, 2865 posts
3 Feb 2010 9:58AM
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The "Atom" mini ( with rubber steering) is on hold at the moment.. work super busy for me at the moment. But dont worry its high on my "to do" list

blewbyyou
12 posts
3 Feb 2010 11:43AM
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Just wanted to post apic of his competition.

j murray
SA, 947 posts
3 Feb 2010 8:40PM
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Gidday Blew.....have to comment.....best welding i have seen featured here

in this forum since i've been around. Love to see that square metal being used, it add's

form and line, mostly round used here ....cheers

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
3 Feb 2010 7:10PM
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blewbyyou said...

Just wanted to post apic of his competition.




Now that is a nice mini.
i do love a blond



piece of plywood
all your dimensions look nicely balanced.
fascinating idea of sailing on icy bitumen

kiwi307
488 posts
5 Feb 2010 2:27AM
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oldMXer said...

wood composite rear axle. Feel that stored energy return from gusts will really help acceleration.


I believe that you have picked up on something here. IMHO a large number of the components being used , particularly for axles have been way too stiff.



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