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FASTEST EXCITING MONHULL BRAND ?

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Created by ozsail > 9 months ago, 2 Feb 2011
brett221
QLD, 128 posts
7 Feb 2011 6:52PM
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If someone who was 100kg gave me 5k to get a boat simply to hoon around on I would go and get a nethercott International Canoe. This will keep you smiling for a long time, it will take some practice at first to learn to sail it, but in a straight line it is simple enough.
I am around your size and I do currently sail a contender so I am a bit biased that way so it would definately be the second choice but the IC would be a first choice for the hoon factor!
PM me if you want some contact details for guys in the IC class who will be able to find you a boat or for details on the contenders.
Brett

ozsail
40 posts
7 Feb 2011 5:29PM
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hi brett
yeah,they look interesting thats for sure!!
keep em in mind
cheers
glen

smc
VIC, 10 posts
11 Feb 2011 1:54PM
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Contender can be fun, singlehanded with trap, older boats can be had cheap.

jezcol
WA, 23 posts
3 Mar 2011 7:51PM
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Might be a bit late but there it a Fast single hull one person and its not that pricey and it's biggest down poor is not very many numbers (boat and not a big fleet) but its a "International Canoe"
They are a fast single hull FUN boat.

AUS12762
3 posts
4 Mar 2011 4:36PM
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Jez - perhaps you should sail a canoe before you go making those sorts of claims.

Oz - IC's are fast, but at the same time they're a boat for people who are very on top of their boat handling techniques. They're not easy, but when you get your head around how to sail them, they're quite rewarding. Also, 100kg's is getting towards the heavy side of IC sailing; I've seen big boys snap planks before and it's not pretty! Also, a good development hull (post-2006) IC tends to be more expensive than some people on here think. Older Nethercotts can range from about $1500 to $7000 and they are quite varied in condition and pedegree.

For you, I'd go looking into the senior monos around the place such as Contenders or Finns (word of warning: you must have a serious masochistic streak to you and simply enjoy pain for pain's sake to sail a Finn :P). Both can be had fairly cheaply 2nd hand. I'd aim at finding an old Contender for blasting purposes - saw a dinghy sports hull (circa 1994) not long ago asking $1500. Can't really go too far wrong there.

Alternatively if you are into cats and want a singlehander... try and find an old A class perhaps? Around the $5k range you should be able to find an AusCat Mk3 in OK nick, don't go looking for anything older than AUS 650ish, before that most boats were ply. Good fleets of A's in Vic at McCrae, Merricks and Port Melbourne. Inland lakes - well, they used to be built in Bendigo if that helps.

Vic doesn't have much of a NACRA following so 16sq is out of the question... and I would also say Mosquito but 100 kegs is a bit much for a cat rigged one.

Otherwise, have you considered crewing? You sound like you'd find a very happy home on the pointy end of a Sharpie or FD??

jzattelman
VIC, 7 posts
9 Mar 2011 8:27PM
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Hi check out the Formula 15, they are easily the fastest monohull out the boats mentioned below. They are a twin trapeze skiff with an asymmetric spinnaker.

They are extremely well built by the well known high performance boat builder, Jim Scott of Formula Sailcraft in Williamstown, Victoria.

Formula 15's have a very clean cockpit, self draining hull and more freeboard than most boats designed in Sydney so you don't get swept off the gunwhale in large waves. These characteristics make the boat idea for sailing in anything from light wind to strong winter blows in large seas. We have got these boats up to 22+ knots of boatspeed with ease downwind in flat water conditions.

These boats require a little more skill than a catamaran but the excitment is amazing when the conditions test your skills.

There are plenty of really crews that would love to sail regularly on a Formula 15 so if you have a boat thats no problem whatsoever!

Check out www.formula15.org to view details about the class.

New boats are available at $23,000 turnkey and currently half that price second hand. There are some very good second hand boats available at this time.

If you would like to chat to the owner of one call Justin on 0407 333 478


jzattelman
VIC, 7 posts
9 Mar 2011 8:44PM
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Sorry me again... Have a look at the following Youtube Clip. This is very poor quality and skips to me snorkelling (don't ask me what I was think)



This is the very first Formula 15! I now own number 08.

Easy to sail and would suit your weight. A sabre would be a bit small for you I'm thinking... and underpowered.

Justin 0407 333 478

brett221
QLD, 128 posts
10 Mar 2011 12:45PM
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And a formula 15 is a single handed boat? It might need to be if you are sailing it at over 100 kegs but I dont think it was designed that way. BTW, isnt a Formula 15 slower than 12, 13, 14 and 16 ft skiffs, VS's, a well sailed 29'r, and the actual single handed boats like the Musto Skiffs, RS700's, IC's. Guess why there have only been a dozen of them built? Not because it is a bad boat, just it is a mediocre boat trying to compete with some great ones.

jzattelman
VIC, 7 posts
10 Mar 2011 10:45PM
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Sorry no...the Formula 15 is not a single handed boat. It is however a really great boat to sail. In comparision to the 12, 14 and 16 foot skiffs The formula 15 is much cheaper, the boats are one design, the boats don't break easily and they can be sailed in strong conditions. I sailed a 29er in Perth for the Nationals a couple of years ago and they are very slow in comparison. The guys that win are tiny young teenages as well.

If you ever want to try one out for fun feel free to give me a call.

0407 333 478



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