9 tonne cement boat and pro built? seam very heavy for such a small boat.
I say but a st2000 no way you can hold that tiller that would be a killer. I would have a good inflatable, personal eperb, get rigging checked and I would install an AIS the poor mans radar $250 to see other boats or Whitworths had a full unit for 700 cheep insurance. and add navionics to your phone android or the other one [}:)]
Give it a go but do check out the boat if all checks out why not do the trip id prefer another person but you need to make it safe before asking that one and people will be more inclined to help if the boats safe.
Good luck Oh do you work on boats?
Did you say 9 tons, we talking about yacht or "icebreaker ".
-cheap insurance for cement- are we in Australia or is it joke?
did you hear about survey, most importantly conditions of wire mesh must be tested.
Just happen to read amateur testing of condition of the hull - go inside the hull with little hammer and listen if you hear hollow - mesh holding structure is rusted away.
cantswm, pushing too hard too many things is far from enjoyment having a boat
and go sailing ...one day...,
I find myself a few times into the sail, this is not sailing any more but fight for survival.
But guess what gusting 40 knots in the middle of Port Phil. Bay on T/ S is survival
but the same gusts + bullets in FNQ on 43 footer, all sweet we get there a bit faster.
IT IS A BOATS, the rest you can learn and a bit practice and IN.
Anyway one more suggestion, any chance to move the boat anywhere southbound,
where mooring is more affordable.
You get more time sort things out.
Just for sake of it, I was 3 day sailing Westernport
, sorry fishing because 5knt wind,
no fish, only satisfaction was a couple nights at N. tip French Isl.
I have just taken the estimated weight from the hartley site on other cement boats of similar size and design, maybe its not that heavy,
The only way I'd really know is if its lifted I guess
G'day Cantswim,
I was in a similar situation to you earlier this year. Plenty of experience with power boats, sailing dinghies and other peoples trailer sailers in Port Phillip Bay, can fix anything, but had never been out in the ocean on a small boat, etc.
Bought a 34' yacht in Lakes Entrance and had to get it to Melbourne.
Best decision I ever made was to engage (and accompany) a professional delivery guy.
It was a great experience - I had my own personal ocean sailing tutor on my own boat, had a lot of fun and learned heaps. I also answered the question of whether I actually liked (and was cut out for) coastal cruising - I was. I also found out whether I was vulnerable to seasickness on the ocean - thankfully, I'm not.
Don't assume that because you're OK in bay conditions, you'll be OK on the ocean. I have since seen several cases of people with absolutely no problem in bays, completely disabled on the ocean to the point where they had to be put off the boat.
In the inevitable hairy moments (which you can count on happening) such as negotiating sand bars in big seas, determining whether a ship (at night) was on a collision course with us, making critical decisions about the weather situation, navigating unfamiliar entrances in the dark, etc - it became very obvious to me that I had made the right decision to be with a professional.
I have since accompanied the same professional on one of his delivery jobs to the Whitsundays (at no charge to him), just for the fun and learning experience - and intend to do more.
I think you will be pleasantly surprised at the cost of a professional - you'll learn heaps, be safe and enjoy your first ocean experience.
PM me if you'd like more details.
Clicking on Can't Swim's (!) name, states "Sorry, member 'cantswm4****' not found!".
Mate, if you are out there - I am looking to get some more experience while helping you get your vessel to Melbourne. Am a Sydney area resident, have crewed Hobart - Sydney a few times + some Blue Water classics Gosford-LHI, Sydney-Gold Coast (so cold in 2008... ) + FWIW; kayaked across Bass Strait twice.
Man, that is cool, kayaking across bass strait just once is immpressive enough,
I suppose the second crossing was to get back home, lmao
sure, sounds good to me,
I can tell you where my boat is moored If you would like to have a look at her first,
Dont know why you couldnt get my name up,
Dang technology,
This is sounding a lot better now that you have a second person helping.
The long stretch is from Eden to Refuge Cove, be prepared to wait in Eden. If a SW comes in ate Eden, move over to the Woodchip terminal and anchor.
Use the time at Eden to fix things up and get ready for the long haul. Eden has plenty of supporting businesses within walking distance and fuel can be had from a tanker at the wharf.
Kiama is too tight to get into, Woolongong the same. Having done this trip a couple of times, more to Tasmania. I personally would try for Sydney to Jervis Bay, then onto Ulladulla (maybe). Then an overnight run to Eden arriving in the morning.
If the wind is aft of the beam and there is a bit of a rolly swell, just use a large genoa. (poled out, if you have a pole)
Report to the onshore Coastal Patrols as you go down the coast.
If you have a paper chart, it pays to mark on the chart your position every hour for two reasons.
1. If the electronics go down you will know where you were within the hour.
2. You will get a very good idea visually on the chart how your yacht performs.
Keep asking questions, this is a very informative and positive forum.
Dusty
Just a thought GetaLife, it's obviously your nick of woods.
Any chance, if you need a little rest hide behind Gabo Isl.?
If yes, only for Easterlies of both?
Charriot,
Yes, we have tucked in behind Gabo on the Mallacoota side.
Protection would be good for NE thru to SE, maybe a bit swelly, but OK.
Mallacoota Coast Guard have a listening watch as does Lakes Entrance and Westernport.
Dusty
This is sounding a lot better now that you have a second person helping.
Alot of great advice but no mention of the anchor. I assume it has a good size winch for a vessel of that size and weight. Buy the biggest anchor that winch will handle and go all chain min 50m (forget rope & chain) , again as thick chain as the capstan will handle , but make sure you also have a big set of bolt cutters to cut the chain in case it foul hooks on the bottom. (So also carry a spare anchor)
Throw the old chain away it's potentially over 30 years old , check out the securing point for the end of the chain and make sure it's still solid. When you fit your new chain mark it every 5m with chain link markers or paint so you know how much chain you drop , very handy in tight anchorages. Wire off your shackles.
In my many years of boating I have seen more yachts drag then any other vessel. If Murphy raises his hand and takes your mask and drowns your engine the anchor is your last line of defense.
Hope you enjoy your trip sounds like a real adventure best of luck and safe passage.
Rob
Ummm..... Where is refuge cove, tried google maps, doesn't come up,
did a manual google search around the coast from eden to port phillip bay, couldnt find it.
I'll be bringing a couple of fishing 'poles', they'l have to do, ROFL
Performance?? performance you say !!
more like join the dots,
I don't think this model came with performance, 
thanks for the info.
CHEERS
This is sounding a lot better now that you have a second person helping.
Refuge Cove, is at the lower end of Wilson's Promitory.
S39.02.286 E146.27.931
There is a light at the entrance.
Super spot in any Westerley direction.
No so good in a SE oe Easterly. In these conditions beware of the incoming swell.
If you are having any problems and need a place to stop for awhile, detour up the Prom to Port Welshpool, the channel is well marked.
Dusty
Select to expand quotecantswm4**** said...
Performance?? performance you say !!
more like join the dots,
I don't think this model came with performance,
thanks for the info.
CHEERS
There is an old bloke who sails up and down the coast solo in a Hartley 32 ROHC. They sail well. Most people don't even realise they are concrete. Yours just looks like a later version with just higher topsides giving it the extra length.
Four concrete yachts and one old concrete trawler here. Only one looks like its concrete. People are surprised when I mention they are concrete.
The construction of the boat is less important than its condition (and the experience of the crew). In 2007 I two handed to Coffs in a home built 36 ft concrete boat. The owner built it himself in the early 70s and he was 77 when we went up the coast. He then went from Coffs to Port Vila single handed.
He had sailed his boat for many 10s of thousands of miles around the South Pacific bouncing off reefs and a cliff at one time. He knew his boat and how to handle it.
I was on watch at dawn when we were about 8nm off Stockton Beach. Just before dawn the offshore wind picked up from 10-15kts to 35-40kts in a few hours. The sea was white to the coast. It was difficult to judge the wind strength increase and it took the two of us a lot of effort to reef, me helming and him taking charge at the mast.
Don't assume that conditions will always be benign or that your impatience won't take charge and you go or stay out there when you shouldn't.
Plan well, go with an experienced person and enjoy the trip. This time of year will be the best you can expect.
We have a few Bass St. expert here. My guess only - listening experten.
But considering Eden to Refuge and giant oil fields of 90 mile beach in between,
that stretch of water deserves a bit of respect. Just listening a few boaties next to me,
Feb-Apr. we leaving Westerport. But there is another option, use small windows, stick closer to coast and hide if need it- Gabo, Lake Entrance and Mallacoota.
Charriot,
That bit of water called Bass St., deserves A LOT OF RESPECT!
You would try and leave Eden on the tail end of a low, if you are lucky enough, you need a large low in the Tasman Sea blocking a high over Victoria. This will give you the weather window you will be looking for.
NE swinging into a SE would be a dream run.
In a strong W to NW shelter can be had in Waratah Bay also, near the old furnace chimney.
I would suggest suggest downloading and printing this cruising guide.
www.seabreeze.com.au/Members/Content/View.aspx?g=News&c=Cruising&id=3423138
I have Rob's 2006 version and it only goes to Eden in the South. Its mainly for NSW and Qld.
Buy an older version of Lucas's guide for the NSW coast off eBay and update it from the update site.
Be advised the Coastal patrols/Marine rescue associations are all amalgamated now so some info may have to be checked.
was anyone able to get to the 16 pages ??
Sweet... what a great resource
brought back memories of past passages
and made me dream of the next
DAMN damn ....damn, I would like to thank everyone on seabreeze for the great feedback I have received from you all, (even the negative pessimists, you know who you are)............only joking, It's all good
Anyway,
to cut along story short, very short indeed,
I had a fellow member Wollemi offer to come with me, and help sail her.
As he lives up near sydney he went and inspected the boat I have been planning
to sail back yesterday,
(never..... I repeat NEVER ever ever buy a boat on EBAY sight unseen, )
I grilled the boat broker for about an hour or more over the phone on her condition,
He stated that she was fit for sail with minor, that was only MINOR work to prepare her,
My friend Wollemi has done a pretty thorough inspection,
and she has fallen way short of expectations 
BAD POINTS
1. cockpit needs sanding and reworking,
2. steering wheel is undersized (steering gear cover missing)
3. no tiller, control hole boarded up
4. main sail missing battens...(no storm sails)
5. nasty crack in lower transom and hull
6. no anchor winch
7. rust on sheaves, cables and fittings
8. much rust on engine mariniser
9. bilge full of rusty water,
10. no cushions, no power outlets
11. water pump not working
12. engines harmonic balancer needs replacement.
13. she still floats (was a good point once)
14. I could go on all day,
GOOD POINTS
1. .ummm.......still thinking..... um,....she floats.?...(could be a bad point,)
cost $100 a week to float,
mooring on the sea floor is free.
Very dissulusioned, sigh (easy come...easier go)
A Road trip is beyond my budget
Will update soon with decision on what to do with her.
Thanks again for all your input,
(seems these boat brokers are like used car salesmen)
They couldn't care If they risk your life to make a sale
SHAME...SHAME...SHAME
hey can't swim,
followed your thread, can I ask just to help me put this in perspective, an approx price range you paid for her? (the boat that is..)
only $1100
but thats allot of money for 33 foot of used footpath, rofl
CHEERS
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yeah, ok.
it's a lot of boat for $1,100, and the pic from your first post look ok so I can see why you were interested.
for my 2c, the rigging doesn't excite me, especially the home-made turnbuckles, the rest on your list I'm not too fazed about.
I't's hard to tell from the photo's, if youlooked casually at the deck,toe rail, staunchions etc. it's not too bad
deal breaker though for me is the stern.
Ferro boats can take a bit of abuse, but I'm sure there's a limit.
Where you able to have a look under the cockpit to see how bad the impact may have been?
If you wanted something to compare to, there's a local club with a Sonata fixed keel boat (fibreglass) that will shortly go on the market to be sold to highest bidder (probably circa $2,500)
