Hi to all
Wondering if anyone has any experience with a Hutton 28
Any thoughts or information would be appreciated
Thanks in advance
Regards Don
Hutton were one of those companies that appeared in the 70's and 80's in Sydney if I recall correctly. They started with a 24 footer from the moulds of a french quarter tonner, a Dufour 24 which was a nice little boat. The 28 I'm not sure of but I think it was some one else's mould as well. I notice the one for sale in Tasmania mentions a lead filled steel keel coated in epoxy. I would always go lead keel personally but was always tempted by the Doven's/Knoop 30's that use the same keel configuration. For Tasmania I would consider something a little more heavier displacement.http://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/knoop-30/128002
That is a lovely yacht.
Best of luck trying to hand start that engine. Make sure your health insurance covers broken hands, arms and dislocated shoulders.
I looked into buying one 5 years ago. Not entirely certain but Peter Cole may have been the designer, similar to the Bounty 28. Roomy boat for 28' and they sail well. Side decks a little on the narrow side.
Hi Nick
It looks ok on the net and I am going to have a look at it tomorrow
Do you know of any issues they have that I should look out for
Regards Don
This is the boat I am looking at
www.boatsalestas.com.au/sail-monohulls/hutton-28-sandy-t/95876/
It is quite expensive for what it is but because it has had a lot of recent work I figure it is worth a look
Regards Don
That price in my opinion is a big ask Don, a lot of the stated work is in my opinion nothing more than normal and regular maintenance. Looking at it another way, it's a 1982 model boat and even if you replaced everything, and I mean everything on the boat it would still only be a 1982 model boat, not a 2013 model.
I think at that price there just has to be room to maneuver. Apart from all of that it is a lovely looking boat.
The problem in Tassie is there is lots of boats in the 60's, 70's and 80's and then there is the new ones but nothing much in between
I have a 1986 Spacesailer 20 and I was looking to buy something newer but there is not much around
The Hutton is a oldie but with the near new engine and prop, standing and running rigging, hull and keel work, batteries, wiring, toilet and interior fabric a lot of the reasons to stay away from a older boat have already been attend to
It will be interesting to see if it looks as good in the flesh as it does on the net
Regards Don
I think the price is interesting from the fact that we recently bought a 1984 Northshore 27, and have for one reason or another replaced pretty much everything as well (minus hfi, inverter, tack tik and extra battery). And for some silly reason I have have added up every dollar we have spent including the original cost of the boat and it comes to around $40k. (don't tell my partner that though ;)
In the back of my mind though, I have thought I would not get all that money back if I was to sell her.
That is a very nice looking boat though, and you can tell the owner has been meticulous in repairs and upgrades.
This Northshore 27 was given a complete professional refit and they are asking >$100k;
www.sail-world.com/USA
Hi Ramona
I appreciate your thoughts
I am looking at the boat today and I will keep your comments in mind
Can you explain to me your reservations about the keel construction and ongoing maintenance issues
Also you said it was a lightweight 28 footer but in the advert it says it weighs 2800 kg and the SS30 you mentioned weighs 2558 kg on a spec sheet i found (but in adverts i have found it says 4000 kg) although in a mag article I found on the Hutton it says it weighs 2272 kg but it is a different layout and a earlier version
The article also mentions a anchor well in the foredeck
I have attached the article if you want to have a look
Any thoughts would be appreciated
Regards Don
There will be more time spent on the slips refurbishing the keel, keeping up the epoxy covering etc versus just painting lead or fibreglass enclosed lead.
Could not see a hatch in the photo for anchor well.
My 30 footer is roughly 4500 kilos, half in lead. SS30 is similar.
Huttons did not design the 24 footer, its a Dufour 24 footer so inclined not to have much faith in the rest of the article! I can remeber at the time it was a borrowed design for the 28 footer similar to several other builders in that period.
Hi Ramona
Thanks for the information
Are you sure about the 24 being a Dufor design because there are differences in the specs between the 2 boats
sailboatdata.com/sailboat/dufour-24
hutton24.keptsafe.com/specs.htm
Regarding the keel construction is it a steel shell filled with epoxy and lead ballast and bolted to the hull or would the lead be melted into the steel shell
I normally slip my Spacesailer once a year and give the bottom a clean, sand and a coat of antifoul so it would be inspected yearly for external corrosion
What other maintenance do you see it might need
On who designed it i suppose it doesn't matter too much as long as the thing sails ok
I will keep a open mind and let you know what i find and look at what else is available as i am not in a desperate hurry to buy a bigger boat
Regards Don
The Hutton 24 built in Sydney is not the one Dufour built in the link. The Hutton 24 was built using a mould from Dufour that was from the Quarter tonner that was very successful in Europe in the 1970's, Hutton just put a different deck mould on it, the original was almost flush deck. This 28 was built a couple of years later. I would suspect this boat is really a 79/80 build.
The steel keel would be similar to the cast iron one on your Space sailer in terms of maintenance.
The point I am trying to get across is that we are talking Rolls Royce pricing on a 28 to 30 footer for $40,000. For that sort of money I would look at 1/2 tonners and would only consider boats with 2 speed self tailing winches, folding propellers, real marine engines and a full quality fit out as a minimum. I would be taking my time on this!
Hi all
Had a look over the Hutton today and it was a nice boat but a bit tight inside for what we are looking for
The V berth was a bit narrow for two and the headroom was a bit low as well for me (i am 6 foot 1 and 107 kg)
Also had a look over a 1987 Catalina 27 but it was a bit tight as well
It looks like we might have to look at the 30+ range to get the space we are looking for
Regards Don
Ramona suggested i post a bit about myself so people might be able to offer suggestion as to a suitable boat so this is me
I am 49 and sailed Sabot's and off the Beach Cats when i was a kid,
We are originally from Cairns and settled in Port Huon in Tassie after spending 10 years travelling in our caravan and working our way around Australia
When we settled in Port Huon a couple of years ago we bought a Spacesailer 20 fin keel and i crew on a Jenneau 33 in the summer race season
Conditions here are from mirror calm to 50 knots (sometime within a few hours if a front comes through) and Port Huon is around 2 hours from the mouth of the Huon in the Spacesailer so most of our day sailing is in the Huon with the occasion trip into the Channel or south to Dover
Love sailing the Spacesailer but looking at moving into a bigger boat (around 30 foot) to make the weekends away a bit more comfortable
Regards Don
ok guys
What can you tell me about these
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/jarkan-925-cloud-nine/130425
Regards Don
Don,
The Jarkan would be one of my "dream" boats. Very capable units. Kanga known as having completed the BOC several? times so he should know his onions on what makes a well behaved yacht. Much better value than some of the alternatives and a better option than the euro equivalents for your location (weather conditions).
Have fun with the search.
Thanks for the comments
If the Jarken is still available is there anything in particular i should look at when i inspect it
It says in the ad it is salt water cooled
I assume this means is doesn't have a heat exchanger and that salt water circulates through the engine block and head
Do this cause any corrosion drama's with the engine componants
Is the price reasonable if the boat is in the condition described in the ad
Thanks for the input so far
Regards Don
It is expensive. The salt water cooling is not a problem. My Volvo is similar and I am expecting 20 years from it.
Hi to all
If i post up a few links of what is available locally can you give me your thoughts on them so i can make a short list of what might be worth having a look at
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/lexcen-32/130982
Regards Don
The Eastcoast 31 is way overpriced.
I am a fan of all Ben Lexcen yachts, my last boat was one of his quarter tonners. This 32 is way over priced too. They are not comparable to the Jarkan in performance or interior room and have terrible resale.
After perusing all the boats for sale in Tasmania I would have to say they are overpriced compared to the rest of Australia. The Jarkan is nice though. I can see now why we have lost two boats from here to Tasmania! I would take look at the Kaufman 32.
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/kaufman-32-mischief/85436
People seem to steer clear of composite boats for some reason but I like them. Would need a furler and lazyjacks to make a family cruiser though.
The Kaufman was actually built be Rod Goode who lives about 100 yards up the road from here and still builds Yachts under the Huon Brand and is a member of the Huon Yacht Club http://www.yachting.org.au/db/clubdisplay.asp?ID=7017&Action=Display&MenuID=Clubs%A0and%A0Classes%2F6%2Ff0%2COnBoard%2F10612%2F16674%2CParticipants%2F11668%2F6236 that i am in and is a nice bloke
This is one of his yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/huon-33/126224
I have only been looking at GRP boats so far but perhaps i might look at others as well
Regards Don
Boats in tassie are generally more expensive due to the fact of getting them down here involves extra $s and there are not a lot of cheap boats sitting on mooring not been used that you see in some other locations on the mainland, how ever this looks like good buying to me, I raced against this boat in many jog races in past years and you would be had pressed to beat it in a well sailed 1/2 tonner. It was built by a tradesman as is own boat to a design of a well respected tas boat designer.
www.boatsalestas.com.au/sail-monohulls/snook-28-twillo/121676/
